Gerrard30391 wrote:Not only is it confind to the CB spot either, if we aren't careful, and Insua plays as bad as he did today, we're left with a good, at best, LB in Aurelio then Dossena.
metalhead wrote:As much as people like Skrtel here, he isn't good enough, he just doesn't look like a top quality CB, decent squad player at best. Carragher is getting older.
roberto green wrote:metalhead wrote:As much as people like Skrtel here, he isn't good enough, he just doesn't look like a top quality CB, decent squad player at best. Carragher is getting older.
Out of the 2 I would say Skrtel is the better they are pretty similar in stylle,
I think Carra gets the vote because he is the local lad and all that, towards the back end of last season Carra went into decline most notably in the west ham game last season.I think this could well be his last season as our main defender.
roberto green wrote:metalhead wrote:As much as people like Skrtel here, he isn't good enough, he just doesn't look like a top quality CB, decent squad player at best. Carragher is getting older.
Out of the 2 I would say Skrtel is the better they are pretty similar in stylle,
I think Carra gets the vote because he is the local lad and all that, towards the back end of last season Carra went into decline most notably in the west ham game last season.I think this could well be his last season as our main defender.
The_Rock wrote:roberto green wrote:metalhead wrote:As much as people like Skrtel here, he isn't good enough, he just doesn't look like a top quality CB, decent squad player at best. Carragher is getting older.
Out of the 2 I would say Skrtel is the better they are pretty similar in stylle,
I think Carra gets the vote because he is the local lad and all that, towards the back end of last season Carra went into decline most notably in the west ham game last season.I think this could well be his last season as our main defender.
I think so too.....thought Skertel a decent game (hey if people called what lucas did was decent....Skertel was more than that). Think Carra is the liability at the moment....
Owzat wrote:I prefer Carra because he doesn't give away as many silly free-kicks nowhere near the box and putting the defence under pressure, Carra makes challenges in and around the box that are needed and consequently concedes free-kicks, penalties and own goals.
and leaving our CBs too exposed?
Octsky wrote:Knowing Carra all this years (yah, we are best mates), dropping him for one or two match will do wonder and invoke the best positive kind of reaction from him.
Carra is a top defender, as defending is done as much mentally versus physically.
He can read the game well, tenacious in defend and determine to win. The team can still depend on him.
Skertel is a non nonsense defender but lack intelligence and concentration evidently in the errors he committed today VS West Ham. Skertel is not for the long term.
Agger as a defender is a rare breed, he can bring the ball up field, can pass the ball well, and shoot a stinger. The closer thing to Alan Hansen in 2 decades. If he can keep fit and improve on his defending, he can be world class, "Paolo Maldini" world class.
If we have a chance to sign another defender of potential, i will say lets go for it.
roberto green wrote:Owzat wrote:I prefer Carra because he doesn't give away as many silly free-kicks nowhere near the box and putting the defence under pressure, Carra makes challenges in and around the box that are needed and consequently concedes free-kicks, penalties and own goals.
and leaving our CBs too exposed?
A bit of a contridiction that sentence in itself.I think Carra has made more defensive mistakes as anyone of late, even the headed goal Cole scored Carra should of had.
Sabre wrote:The Spanish second commentator couldn't believe that all our 9 goals came from set pieces situation. He also thinks Carra's past his best.
I don't know if this is Carraguer's age or simply a bad form that any player can have, but definitely he has to improve if he wants to play regularly. To make things worse Skrtel doesn't seem confident.
Just as Benayoun has been tried and apparently earned a regular starter status, I think we should try the Greek and see if he grabs his chance. We definitely have a problem in the back, and it affects not only when we are defending, also how we build up our game.
We need Agger back. But yes, there's no doubt that today's worst link were the CB. I actually liked pretty much everyone else in the pitch. Lucas was not brilliant but not bad and I think everyone else did a good job.
devaney wrote:I know Sammy wanted to go because Rafa told him he wouldn't get regular first team football! HOW MUCH DO WE NEED SAMMY NOW? HIS PERFORMANCE AGAINST MAN U LAST SEASON SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENOUGH FOR RAFA TO REALISE THAT HE WAS A MASSIVELY IMPORTANT PART OF THE TEAM. DID RAFA MAKE SAMMY FEEL THAT HE WAS - DID HE FK!
I know Alonso went because he was made to feel about as wanted as a hole in a Jonny at the end of the 2007/2008 season! AND WHAT DID RAFA DO AFTER XABI'S STAND OUT 2008/2009 SEASON? Rafa once again simply failed to perform as a manager should and keep his best assets! Rafa couldn't even persuade Xabi to stay for a year and help us win the title for ffs!
Stevie G nearly went ffs to Chelsea of all fkng places! A PICTURE IS EMERGING. LFC CAN NO LONGER GUARANTEE THAT IT CAN HOLD ONTO IT'S FINEST ASSETS. Mascherano to Barca at the end of the season? Torres get's offered a crazy deal and the club have the opportunity to sell him for £80m - what would happen? is everybody convinced that we wouldn't sell him? I'm not!
Fk I know I am sounding like a right moaning cnt but to be honest I am fed up with the incredibly stubborn approach taken by Rafa and some of his useless tactics and inept man management skills. MAYBE IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE OF MANAGEMENT because frankly I think we are going backwards. My only hope that Aquilani is a fkg miracle worker if he ever plays! At least Keane the useless tw.at did at least get on the pitch!
RANT OVER!
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