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by **kunilson** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:51 pm

think i would go for:

Reina
Johnson Kyrgiakos Carragher Insua
Kuyt Gerrard Masch Riera
Benny
Torres

i have always wanted to see this line-up play more. obviously with gerrard and torres playing so well together changes up there arent really needed, but i reckon this way they can still play off eachother as well as benny getting in on the act. Lacks defensive muscle sure, but id rather see us with more urgency early on in matches anyway....

by **Owzat** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:59 pm

4-1-3-2 with Mascherano behind a trio of Riera, Gerrard and Benayoun (L-R) and then Kuyt alongside Torres. It can easily be changed to a 4-4-2 by Gerrard dropping deeper with no change of personnel required, and Benayoun can play L, R or C so there is flexibility with someone coming off for playing poorly ie if Benayoun is playing poorly either replace him or drop Kuyt into RM and replace him.

I'm not jumping on any "anti-Lucas" bandwagon, he just happens to be the weakest player and the side needs some kind of change.

by **The_Rock** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:16 pm

Like most of the opinion in this thread....i too prefer if we go back to 4-4-2.

One of the CM has to be Gerrard....the other can be lucas or mascherano...i don't give a $hit about that because mascherano has really disappointed me this season. Even last season he was pretty average. He wasn't as dominating as the season before last. When Alonso was struggling for form...mascherano was awesome (2 seasons ago). Then Alonso hits form and mascherano looked average (last season). Its like we cannot catch a break.....

As for the CB...i don't thinkit is a good idea to put the greek defender into the starting line-up out of the blue. Still prefer to see Carra and Skertel...and then bring on the big greek later on in the match. We can't afford anymore mistakes.....

by **Bammo** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:12 pm

Right, purely picking a team that suits our players (the uninjured ones!) at the moment:

Reina

Johnson Carra Skrtel Insua

Masch
Gerrard Reina

Kuyt Torres Benny/Babel

Yes, 4-3-3. put that in your pipe and smoke it

by **Effes** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:46 pm

The_Rock wrote:Like most of the opinion in this thread....i too prefer if we go back to 4-4-2.

If you look mate, the majority go for 4-2-3-1 (15 to 7)

by **bigmick** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:06 pm

Effes wrote:
The_Rock wrote:Like most of the opinion in this thread....i too prefer if we go back to 4-4-2.

If you look mate, the majority go for 4-2-3-1 (15 to 7)

I've just voted though Eff', and I couldn't help but notice that "others" is creeping up on the rails, four votes including mine :buttrock

by **heimdall** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:10 pm

Sabre wrote:I can understand the temptation of moving Gerrard back to midfield, but I'd resist the temptation a bit more. The temptation I wouldn't resist though is to bring back Riera ASAP. He's necessary.

I'd resist the temptation of moving Gerrard back for these reasons:

* It would be the official message to Lucas of "we don't trust you". I think this is the season in which he must prove whether he has a place here or not, but I wouldn't write him off for two defeats, especially when we couldn't single him out for those defeats. I don't think Rafa will retire his trust on him especially after talking well about him.

* If you move Gerrard back in a month time you'll have to, either move Gerrard back to the partnership with Torres (more choping and changing) or not using your new Italian bet.

* The third reason is that the Gerrard-Torres partnership won us many games in the past, and I think that will remain true.

So I wouldn't enter the panic mode just yet, for now I'd echo what some mates ask about some players bucking up or improving their game, and I'd only introduce Riera in the current set up.

P.S. I think that's others. Keeping the same formation and bring Riera, and perhaps El Greco.

So resistence to change is a Spanish trait then :eyebrow

Just kidding but we have lost 2 of 3 games Sabre, something HAS to be changed.

As for telling Lucas we have no confidence in him, well I for one don't have any confidence in him and I don't see the need to loose games just to protect his ego, drop him into the reserves for a few games, make him prove his worth.

Moving Stevie into midfield and then back together with Torres in a months time would be a problem why? Are you suggesting it would unsettle Stevie/Nando or something?

in any case it doesn't matter how good the partnership was last year, as of right now it's not working, mainly because we are getting fecked in the midfield.

So I would go with the consensus, drop Stevie alongside Mascha and play Benni behind Nando, and bring on Babel or Wash as an "impact" sub and I use that word very loosely, but they do have a bit of pace those lads.

by **Effes** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:16 pm

bigmick wrote:
Effes wrote:
The_Rock wrote:Like most of the opinion in this thread....i too prefer if we go back to 4-4-2.

If you look mate, the majority go for 4-2-3-1 (15 to 7)

I've just voted though Eff', and I couldn't help but notice that "others" is creeping up on the rails, four votes including mine

I think all polls cater for you now Mick.

by **baldricks_cunning_plan** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:28 pm

Reina
Johnson Carra Skrtel Insua
Spearing Masch
Yossi Stevie Riera
Torres

Next question?

by **DrPepe** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:41 pm

reina

johnson carra skrtl insua

kuyt lucas masch riera

gerrard

torres

riera is a big miss at the moment - quick , clever feet and plays well with gerrard, torres

by **Dazzer** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:05 am

So we all pretty sure Riera isn't going now then ?

Just don't understand why he hasn't played up to now ?

If he is ok ot play love to see him play on left and put babel on right and Kuyt up front to help Torres go basic 4-4-2 Diamond.

by **bigmick** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:21 am

Maybe Riera not playing was a case of Rafa wanting to prove one of his points. If it was, the point he proved is that we could really do with Riera playing. Now we've established it, we might as well pick him I guess.

by **Dazzer** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:35 am

bigmick wrote:Maybe Riera not playing was a case of Rafa wanting to prove one of his points. If it was, the point he proved is that we could really do with Riera playing. Now we've established it, we might as well pick him I guess.

I doubt it rather he thought I might sell him to get some money to buy another player then found out the banks won't let him use that money to get another player so now he keeps this player and plays him. Simples !

by **baldricks_cunning_plan** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:40 am

bigmick wrote:Maybe Riera not playing was a case of Rafa wanting to prove one of his points. If it was, the point he proved is that we could really do with Riera playing. Now we've established it, we might as well pick him I guess.

Or maybe it has something to do with the fact that Riera has been carrying a slight knock he picked up while on those pointless intentional friendlies just before the season started.

But, god forbid, our manager rest somebody with a slight injury. How dare he? Maybe he should start playing Aquilani on crutchers eh lad.

by **Dazzer** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:50 am

baldricks_cunning_plan wrote:
bigmick wrote:Maybe Riera not playing was a case of Rafa wanting to prove one of his points. If it was, the point he proved is that we could really do with Riera playing. Now we've established it, we might as well pick him I guess.

Or maybe it has something to do with the fact that Riera has been carrying a slight knock he picked up while on those pointless intentional friendlies just before the season started.

But, god forbid, our manager rest somebody with a slight injury. How dare he? Maybe he should start playing Aquilani on crutchers eh lad.

Yes we all know how Rafa protects his players. I mean Poor babel only cut his finger doing some hardcore present raping and Rafa kept him out most of the season. :;):

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