Owen to man u on a free - Have we missed a trick?

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Postby crazyhorse » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:45 pm

He has not been a liverpool player for years. He owes it to himself and his family to get the best deal possible and go to the best club he can. He was an absolute gem for us and I will never ever forget the goals he scored (particulary the cup final v Gooners) for us. To say that you wish he breaks his leg, or that he falls flat on his face displays a distinct lack of class that a supporter of our great club should display. LFC has too much history, tradition and class for its supporters to respond like this. Too many really terrible things have happened in our history to harp on about a former player signing for a rival. It does not matter to us, we should be focussing on our club and what we are going to do. Owen signing for the Mancs will have no bearing at all on our performance next year, it is in OUR hands.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:46 pm

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Dundalk wrote:Listen I don't hope he breaks his legs or anything like that buri don't think what he has done can be forgiven and he lost the respect of every Liverpool fan the day he pulled on a united shirt

I agree Dundalk, but there are still two sides to every story, and I think we missed a chance by ALLOWING him to sign for the mancs. We had first option and we turned him down time after time.

As I have said before, I hope he fails miserably at the mancs. Not because I hate Owen but because I hate the mancs.

If rafa doesn't rate him saint , should he have just signed him so the mancs couldn't . It's like saying well rafa should have signed carrick or nani  or hargreaves or berbatov so the mancs couldn't .

All i will say is that owen knows exactly what he was doing by signing for the mancs . So he should expect the reaction he's going to get . If you make your bed and all that.
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Postby Number 9 » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:51 pm

Hes a :censored:!! :angry:
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Dundalk wrote:Listen I don't hope he breaks his legs or anything like that buri don't think what he has done can be forgiven and he lost the respect of every Liverpool fan the day he pulled on a united shirt

I agree Dundalk, but there are still two sides to every story, and I think we missed a chance by ALLOWING him to sign for the mancs. We had first option and we turned him down time after time.

As I have said before, I hope he fails miserably at the mancs. Not because I hate Owen but because I hate the mancs.

If rafa doesn't rate him saint , should he have just signed him so the mancs couldn't . It's like saying well rafa should have signed carrick or nani  or hargreaves or berbatov so the mancs couldn't .

All i will say is that owen knows exactly what he was doing by signing for the mancs . So he should expect the reaction he's going to get . If you make your bed and all that.

That's fair enough Igor, but should Owen have to spend the rest of his career making his decisions based on what a club that he last played for 5 years ago, that doesn't want him, and certain fans that have never liked him (Lando), rather than on what is best for his career and family? Should he choose to go to a club where there is no chance of winning trophies, where he will be in a constant battle against relegation just to keep some fans happy?

FFS mate, I don't like him going to the mancs BECAUSE I liked him as a player, but I can't blame him. I do question why WE didn't sign him though.   

If you were out of work, would you refuse to work for a bus company just because the people at the railways wouldn't like it, even though they didn't want you back?     :D
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Postby sixbuster » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:04 pm

He is a mercenary, only interested in money as proven when he went to Newcastle. As a player he has lost his pace and that was his greatest asset. Injury prone as well. But going to the scum is unforgiveable! :angry:
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:04 pm

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Dundalk wrote:Listen I don't hope he breaks his legs or anything like that buri don't think what he has done can be forgiven and he lost the respect of every Liverpool fan the day he pulled on a united shirt

I agree Dundalk, but there are still two sides to every story, and I think we missed a chance by ALLOWING him to sign for the mancs. We had first option and we turned him down time after time.

As I have said before, I hope he fails miserably at the mancs. Not because I hate Owen but because I hate the mancs.

If rafa doesn't rate him saint , should he have just signed him so the mancs couldn't . It's like saying well rafa should have signed carrick or nani  or hargreaves or berbatov so the mancs couldn't .

All i will say is that owen knows exactly what he was doing by signing for the mancs . So he should expect the reaction he's going to get . If you make your bed and all that.

That's fair enough Igor, but should Owen have to spend the rest of his career making his decisions based on what a club that he last played for 5 years ago, that doesn't want him, and certain fans that have never liked him (Lando), rather than on what is best for his career and family? Should he choose to go to a club where there is no chance of winning trophies, where he will be in a constant battle against relegation just to keep some fans happy?

FFS mate, I don't like him going to the mancs BECAUSE I liked him as a player, but I can't blame him. I do question why WE didn't sign him though.   

If you were out of work, would you refuse to work for a bus company just because the people at the railways wouldn't like it, even though they didn't want you back?     :D

I wouldn't work anywhere mate, if i had the money owen has . THe bollox about looking after is family is just that bollox . He's doing it purley for the glory and to try and get back in the england team in a world cup year and has done it with no regard for his past or our past history .
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Postby Parkinson » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:05 pm

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bigmick wrote:Well I think it's quite possible (and I know what reaction this'll bring) that Owen was a bit hurt that Rafa didn't think he was worth a shot even on a free. He probably feels he has a point to prove to our manager, as well as the opportunity to rebuild his career.

When all said and done it's a brave move by the manager you've got to give him that. If whoever we bring in doesn't hit the ground running, then the comparisons between him and Owen will be obvious. If boy wonder begins to fire at Man Utd, the media will be all over it. There will be lots of sideways glances and raised eyebrows, and some of the dissenting voices may even be coming from inside our own dressing room. It's inconcieveable that Owen won't have said to Carragher, "tell Rafa that if wants me I'll be there in a shot".

As for the medical exam, maybe we could get Deggen to go through it once he gets himself fit again.

Worrying what the media think is absolutely pointless, but if the media effect you're own opinion that much that is you're problem I'm afraid. I wouldn't for one minute believe you're motive to sign Michael Owen would be to primarily keep the media schtum would I?

I don't think we can really speculate neither about dissenting voices from inside the dressing room too much, the "glances" and "raised eyebrows" are probably just you're way of saying 'I wont be happy if Owen turns out to be a boy wonder as opposed to an injury prone mercinary,' to rally some strirring debates up further down the line.

But I suppose laying down you're theories now is a good way to comeback in 12 months to prove everyone wrong incase you're foresight is spot on.  :laugh:

Nice one Parky  :laugh:

Just to revisit this because it's been winding me up a bit. Parky, you come on here and give it the Larry Large, crown prince of largeness and already, after only 47 posts or something you're onto me.

Either you're extremely perceptive and have already worked me out (it nomally takes a bit longer) or, you are a re-invention of someone who I have previously had a row with (it's quite  along list admittedly  ) or even alternatively someone who already posts on the forum, but who decided to get all alter ego on me in order to label me a c...  ???

The more I think about it, I think you are an uber pro-Rafalite who has decided to come in under the radar and stir it up a bit. Get Your Bloody Self sorted son, that's what I say   

Righto, does this mean I'm only allowed to give it "Larry largeness" after 7.000 odd posts or something? Is there a hierachy here that tells us we cannot be the people we are from the off. I have read many posts and opinions on here Mick and I am getting to know the circles and groups posters move in, simply through observations.

I assure you that I didn't intend nor label you a c... I am in all honesty above such notions. If it did wind you up and got on you're nerves I apologise it was light hearted. But by you're own opinions, thus far from my reading of you're posts you do seem to carry a sound footballing knowledge and intellect with you so I thought I'd engage upon that. We have never met before not unless I have served you dinner or drinks on an aeroplane.

Anyway you think we missed a trick I didn't, quote my on that whether I am right or wrong.  :;):
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Postby redhayesy » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:11 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:Horrible mercenary traitorious little c@nt that. That picture is feckin sickening , i hope the c@nt stay's injured for the rest of his life ,the little rat . Hope some tw@t breaks the feckers legs. And i couldn't care less what anyone else thinks , just goes to show that the little tw@t doesn't know the meaning of loyalty . FECKIN MAN U OF ALL PLACES . That's the reason i didn't want tevez or any manc tw@t at my club . Take a long look at that picture and if anyone had any thoughts for the rat , just think of him laughing in your face like the loyal t!t you really are .

the best post iv'e read on this - i couldn't have put it better mate!

feck all other opinions views or even the slightest reason why anyone thinks he did the right thing- IT'S THE FECKING PRINCIPLE OF IT! END OF. THE PICTURE OF OWEN IN THE MANC SHIRT HAS FECKING MADE MY BLOOD BOIL!

FWIW also say we didn't miss a trick with the tw@t,cause agian through principles i didn't want him back anyway. but what he has done has crossed the line with everything that is un-acceptable.

i would even say it doesn't matter where he was signed from, for once i can see why spuds fans fecking despise sol campbell even to this day. i totally agree with they sentiment. yes we are better fans etc however their are un -written rules in football as far as fans are concerned & owen has broken the biggest rule going.

i will remind anyone also with the fact that when roy evans signed ince i fecking hated it! for all the reasons i gave on another topic.

owen has p1ssed me off more than words can say,i will never forgive him for this tretrious act.

i don't agree with booing ex-players etc, but if owen plays for the scum at anfield he will deserve all the abuse he gets & anyone who thinks the hatred LFC fans have for him now will have been forgotten by then-THINK again. just the sight of him in a manc shirt never mind the fecking quotes he's already come out with-whilst smiling 
:veryangry  feck off owen, you have shown your TRUE COLOURS,with this you dis -respectful tw@t.
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Postby redhayesy » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:17 pm

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Dundalk wrote:Listen I don't hope he breaks his legs or anything like that buri don't think what he has done can be forgiven and he lost the respect of every Liverpool fan the day he pulled on a united shirt

I agree Dundalk, but there are still two sides to every story, and I think we missed a chance by ALLOWING him to sign for the mancs. We had first option and we turned him down time after time.

As I have said before, I hope he fails miserably at the mancs. Not because I hate Owen but because I hate the mancs.

If rafa doesn't rate him saint , should he have just signed him so the mancs couldn't . It's like saying well rafa should have signed carrick or nani  or hargreaves or berbatov so the mancs couldn't .

All i will say is that owen knows exactly what he was doing by signing for the mancs . So he should expect the reaction he's going to get . If you make your bed and all that.

That's fair enough Igor, but should Owen have to spend the rest of his career making his decisions based on what a club that he last played for 5 years ago, that doesn't want him, and certain fans that have never liked him (Lando), rather than on what is best for his career and family? Should he choose to go to a club where there is no chance of winning trophies, where he will be in a constant battle against relegation just to keep some fans happy?

FFS mate, I don't like him going to the mancs BECAUSE I liked him as a player, but I can't blame him. I do question why WE didn't sign him though.   

If you were out of work, would you refuse to work for a bus company just because the people at the railways wouldn't like it, even though they didn't want you back?     :D

I wouldn't work anywhere mate, if i had the money owen has . THe bollox about looking after is family is just that bollox . He's doing it purley for the glory and to try and get back in the england team in a world cup year and has done it with no regard for his past or our past history .

once again spot on my friend.  :bowdown  IT'S ABOUT HISTORY! END OF.
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Postby redhayesy » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:20 pm

lakes10 wrote:sorry i might be on my own here but that is a great pick up for Man U.

he will get a lot of goals for them, Rafa missed a trick here.

i fecking hope you are on your own on this one.
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Postby redhayesy » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:37 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Im sorry but this just confirms what a money grabbing mercenary I wanna play for England gobs.*i*e that Michael Owen is. an can someone tell me if im wrong isnt he the first of ours to go there,

yes nanny he is! & after what owen would have surley known what the reaction would be i fecking hope this never happens again.

just seeing him in that fecking shirt  :veryangry   i need another bevvy, i'm getting p1ssed to try an ease the pain of it all.

FFS owen i will never forgive you for this. you manc tw@t!
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Postby redhayesy » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:51 pm

Judge wrote:if someone offered me 60000 a week, and my knee was prone to injury, i'd take it

i defy anyone to think otherwise

there's more to it than,that an you know it!

there's more to life than money also. no amount of money would get me into a manc shirt end of. it's about principles! i'd rather be skint & have my honour in tact, so i do defy your way of thinking.

at least i knew i could go through life with my pride & dignity never in question.
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Postby redhayesy » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:56 pm

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HORRIBLE HORRIBLE LITTLE MAN

:veryangry  you fecking manc tw@t.  :veryangry
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Postby redhayesy » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:00 pm

crazyhorse wrote:I just cannot believe how small minded and short minded some people here are. If we even hinted that we wanted Owen back he would have come running. The fact is Rafa had made his mind up when he arrived at the club that Owen would be leaving and he has never looked like changing his mind.

He left. His career has sufferred as a result. Why keep up this stupid hatred. Whats he supposed to do?? say no for :censored: sake to Man United? ???? one last big pay day? A chance to win the trophies he wants at the end of his career???

I wish him well. I have fond memories of the lad in  Liverpool shirt and he was and will be remembered as one of the best finishers we have ever had.

:no  totally dis -agree if i know & honour our history, so having principles like this makes me small minded then so be it. at least i will never be known as a manc. after his descision he chose he deserves to be hated.
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Postby J*o*n*D*o*e » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:05 pm

i just wish the llittle tw@t would just shut the fook up, if it wasnt bad enough he signed for them where now getting all this cr@p of how great they are and how he has always wanted to play for whisky nose, keep digging  mr ow£n.

wonder how many games in before he kisses the badge, probably 1
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