Liverpool FC Forum

dawson99 wrote:agenda?
we're a club in money trouble with great players... of course there will be speculation.
Same as arsenal are getting with van persie, fabregas, adebayor and toure

All teams get it but we only notice our own troubles

thats a good summary to my 500000 word post above fella

dawson99 wrote:yours is better

of course it is... 

Ciggy wrote:That the british press & media really have it in for Liverpool football club?

The Times one of the broadsheets sunk to a new low yesterday with Torres to Chelsea for 60 million and Alonso for 18 million.

Dont get me wrong any club would love these two players, but lets not let the facts get in the way of scaremongering, Nando has just signed a new contract a few weeks ago, made a statement that he loves Liverpool so much and would not leave for more money. Yet The Times and Sunday S*n say he's on his way to Chelsea.

What part of the Nando interview do they not understand?
Even the yanks arnt that stupid to sell Nando as they know we have some fans who are naive and think there is nothing going on at the club and they bought us Nando so they are great !!!

Not only have they linked most of our first team away they have even done the deals for us with player exchanges aswell.
In the last year we have had.

Masch to Barca or Madrid, Alonso to Madrid, Agger to AC Milan, Kuyt to Hamburg, Gerrard to AC Milan, Man United or Madrid, Benayoun to both Madrid teams, Arbeloa to Madrid, Reina to Barca, Voro to Valencia + cash in exchange for Silva  Babel to Galatasaray, Dossena to Juventus, Torres to Man U, Chelsea, City, Barca, Madrid, AC Milan.

Just some examples of what we are dealing with how many of these deals have come off? How many of these deals will happen? Possibly none do they just print these stories hoping that a deal will happen to say see we are right? Mean while whipping the fans into a frenzie message boards flooded with sheer horror at the prospect of losing our whole team.

And now onto the yanks, yes I hate them, yes I wish they would sell, yes I wish they had never bought us.
But its the media that is to blame for all of our hatred of them since the klinnsman saga since they reported that Ive hated the yanks for the slyness of it all. Then we had them reporting about the Yanks selling to DIC a few months after they took over, then we have had Kuwaities, and Indians all soon to become our new owners.

But the yanks are still here so all them reports where probably false but it also didnt help when the yanks where demanding a ludicrous amount for the club so investors/new owners walked away.

But if this had all happened behind closed doors none of us would have been the wiser, and just plodded along. Thinking everything in the garden was rosy and the yanks where the best owners since sliced bread. But no our accounts and our debt is there for all to see, not only for us the fans but every one, other clubs, other managers, potential new owners, every one.

And this makes us a complete and utter laughing stock Evertonains and Mancs, haha its your own fault you wanted investors to move you forward, they are skint and your in debt up to your ears all pointing the finger and laughing.

Not that the mancs have much to laugh about our debt dwalves theirs yet the media dont tell you that, oh no we cant upset Sir Alex.

Their yanks have to re-finance like ours do their interest repayments are 80-90 million pound a year, they force their fans to buy tickets from Man United credit cards, they have the auto cup scheme where the ticket money for cup games is automaticaly taken out of their bank accounts whether they have money in their accounts to pay for them tickets or not.

But there is no uproar this is in small print in the press or not atall. Plus their fans dont complain because they are winning trophys on a regular basis and buying good & world class players. But when Furgie leaves thats when the sh!t will hit the fan of the media darlings. Lets not mention the fact that their two world class players have just left thats 3 quarters of their attack gone is their any concerns or lambasting of Furgie for letting them leave? No chance  !!! Slur will be alright he always is they wont miss their 42 goals in one season winger/striker not a chance, no point in reporting it its a none story. Just wait till next season when that diving cheating greasy hairless gobsh!te isnt their to win them free kicks. Or the Argentinian terrier isnt their to bring off the bench to change the result of a game. They are going to struggle big time and thats not just me hoping its a FACT!!!

Now onto Chelsea Abramovic has lost billions in this recession their team is ageing and still trying to get their hands on the one trophy that keeps avading them the CL, if and when they win that me along with a lot of others think Roman will take his money out and move onto pastures new.

They sack their managers on a regular basis if Roman walked away tommorrow he would take all his money out leaving them in more debt than us, do the media report of print this?
No chance, why not? Answers on a postcard...........

And now onto the wonderfull Gunners who's kids pull off a one game performance playing one touch football,  inhilating the opposition 6-0 in a cup game. Havent won a trophy for 5 years yet the wonderfull Professor Yaffel never comes under scrutiny because they play on the odd occasion sexy total football, with little triangles,  everyone in the media w@nking themselves silly over them until they play the Boltons and Stoke Citys of the world. Not a word mentioned then, no orgasms from the SSN pundits, no linking their players away all over Europe in the transfer window even though they very nearly missed out on a CL spot last season.

And would have if Villa hadnt have bottled it, and if Everton hadnt hadnt have been so sh!t at home. And if they had have missed out on it they would have been in serious trouble paying for the Emirates but thats not worth writting about so we wont print it.

I dont know if most if these journo's have had their stereo's stollen whilst visiting Liverpool by them scousers, or they got food poisoning from a Fat Spanish Waiter.

Maybe I am just being paranoid?

dawson99 wrote:Am I the only one thinking Alonso's being a little bit sly in all this and maybe not being the angel most people see him as?

aCe' wrote:

dawson99 wrote:Am I the only one thinking Alonso's being a little bit sly in all this and maybe not being the angel most people see him as?

But it doesnt have to be like that... a player isnt an angel because he plays for liverpool and wants to continue doing so ! surely not ! I for one understand where Alonso is coming from... Doesnt feel appreciated enough, other similarly big clubs are after him... lets be honest here, he has very little reason to reject a move to RealMadrid if we accept an offer...
-he'd probably get paid more
-would play in his home country
-chances of him winning a major title are more than they are with us
-he wouldnt be shambolically humiliated over a transfer like he was last summer with us - theyd either sell him or not

so yea maybe you'd see it as him being sly about it... i just see it as him having too much respect for the Liverpool fans (who supported him even when his manager didnt) to come out and say he wants to booger off..

akumaface wrote:Well, i simply think that it is much more easy to stir something up if there is something already stirring. Its like telling a lie 10 times than it must be true. People are in general easily manipulated especailly they are fans of other clubs. No one will say out loud we are public enemy no 1 but this is like economics that there is an invisble hand somewhere. Once the press see there is a believable target, they will dwell on it like leaches and never goes away as it takes less effort to make people to belief. Afterward, a second press then a third press on and on will keep doing this as it had already created a fuss. This is like propaganda from the old USSR age. I think I had read enough news about us, I would have to say 8 out of 10 are bad press against us. Obviously the geographical coverage of the one tha against us is much wider and thus made it more believable as people tends to think "more means truth". Really unfortunate that we are being targetted all the time. The main reason is we are being too nice and kind of more old fashioned among the so called big 4. Also, historically, we had always been labelled of having fans that caused trouble. This is obviously a big lie but saying it enough times, people will start to believe it.

dawson99 wrote:

aCe' wrote:

dawson99 wrote:Am I the only one thinking Alonso's being a little bit sly in all this and maybe not being the angel most people see him as?

But it doesnt have to be like that... a player isnt an angel because he plays for liverpool and wants to continue doing so ! surely not ! I for one understand where Alonso is coming from... Doesnt feel appreciated enough, other similarly big clubs are after him... lets be honest here, he has very little reason to reject a move to RealMadrid if we accept an offer...
-he'd probably get paid more
-would play in his home country
-chances of him winning a major title are more than they are with us
-he wouldnt be shambolically humiliated over a transfer like he was last summer with us - theyd either sell him or not

so yea maybe you'd see it as him being sly about it... i just see it as him having too much respect for the Liverpool fans (who supported him even when his manager didnt) to come out and say he wants to booger off..

except the one thing he hasnt done is tell the liverpool fans anything

its all "we'll see what we see!" which i think is even worse