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by **aCe'** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:00 am

Agree Saint... i'd say we would have won it if he was in our side this season.. deffo better than Silva in my books and would be my top priority if i was Rafa... Can play down both flanks and offers something that is obviously missing from our side which is the ability to run the flanks and spread out opposition backlines... Not too sure about his scoring records (dont think he scores that many) but in terms of overall contribution to attacking play i dont think theres many wide players out there who offer more... (messi and Ronaldo maybe but the way i see it theyr both forwards rather than wingers).... His injury record isnt bad at all either... again like Owen the people who dont want him here will find any excuse to try and justify not wanting him... he played in 49 games this season , scoring 10, with 11 assists...

Sadly though, i hear ManUtd are looking into signing him.... would be a shame because i think he'd make a brilliant player for them, and one we'll come to regret letting slip from our hands... Quality players like him dont come around too often.. not for cheap anyways... Diving cheat ill give you that much, but so what ? Ronaldo, Drogba, even Gerrard and Messi are often put in that category... means fck all to me...

by **redhayesy** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:42 am

heimdall wrote:
redhayesy wrote:
stmichael wrote:Robben is a super player exactly what we need, if Madrid want Xabi and he wants to go, we should be saying £20m Robben and Horseface and thats the deal, they'll accept that.

now at last i know you are a WUM. sorry it's taken me so long to find out, how silly of me, i'm still fecking laughing now mate -robben is a super player, oh please stop it my stomach's hurting from laughing so much. that's what friday nights are all about after a fecking hard week at work -a fecking good laugh,thanks mate for that.

Why Did real Madrid buy him then, if he is so or Chelsea for that matter?

You are so blinded by your utter ignorance that you wouldn't know a good player from a Dossena.

Robben is a superb player and is unbelievably quick for one thing and can supply pin passes, even better than Alonso in my opinion, plus he has the ability to actually score a gola evry once in a while which Alonso has sadly never quite figured out how to do despite his many other talents.

blinded by utter ignorance- i'm laughing big time now!, so i don't know or have watched my own team & players enough to have an opinion myself. feck off, i've watched enough games home & away this season to have the right to say it how it is.

if you honestly think that robben would be a great signing/asset to our side then i will not get into a slanging match with you,it's not worth my time. alonso has shown so much determination,passion, & ability to prove he is worthy of wearing the red shirt this season after all the speculation etc that if anyone said different i would find it fecking hard to believe.

if you think that robben would be better for LFC than alonso then you are in a minority-i strongly believe that.

replace alonso with robben, why ? you think he provides better pin point passes than alonso, that's your opinion, this is mine- no fecking way! alonso has been & proven the best passer of the ball we have had at this FC in many a year.

i still say that alonso's attitude was un-questionable for us this season,if you think that isn't a matter of debate again totally dis-agree with you,would the likes of robben would roll his sleeves up & get on with proving the manager wrong or give him a selection headache, a massive NO is my opinion. that's what separates LFC from any other, players who realise they need to up their game when under threat,& for me alonso did that in his allround game this season.

he scored goals,created goals & also played his part i so many games to allow SG his free role it was a pleasure to watch, some people may have over looked that. his contribution throughout the season was a credit to himself & the team.

because that's what alonso is-a team player, not a fecking greedy individual tw@t. & i would rather have a player like alonso in the side for that reason alone.

so i don't know a good player from a dossena eh, well my opinion is this - iv'e seen enough games in my time to know the difference between a player who shows the right attitude etc to play to their strenghths & a player who doesn't give 100% when picked & dosen't show the right attitude to play for our club. i know not just a good player, iv'e fecking seen great players for LFC over the years & alonso IMHO has shown over the years he deserves to be in that company.

alonso has allround talent, he is a major part of our sde because of his football brain etc & for me would be a fecking sad day if we sold him, i don't want to even mention robben again in the same breth as alonso, as he's not worth it.

so don't insult my intelligence,or knowledge about who i think is right for LFC cause i'm not blinded,i can see quite clearly about what players will take us foward & hopefully alonso will be part of that as his allround ability proves that.

by **account deleted by request** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:14 am

The point you are missing mate is that Alonso presumably WANTS to go. Rafa has said he would like to keep him, so if Alonso wanted to stay all he would have to do is SAY SO. If he wanted to stop all the discussions about his transfer he should make a statement saying "thanks but no thanks to Madrid, and get on with preparing for next season.

If Alonso wants to go, Robben would be a very good player to bring in.

by **crazyhorse** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:21 am

Ace Ventura wrote:Robben may be a c'nt but is class.

Dont get mixed up between hating a player and confusing their ability.

Reminds me of something yoda once said......

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."

Yes, he has class and n ability alone he is a must signing...but he has a terrible attitude.

The bloke is made of glass, is often injured and he has no heart. He dissapears on the pitch when the going gets tough or when the massive games come around.

For me his cheating (diving is cheating) alone is enough to never want him.

LFC has more class. Period.

by **redhayesy** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:36 am

s@int wrote: The point you are missing mate is that Alonso presumably WANTS to go. Rafa has said he would like to keep him, so if Alonso wanted to stay all he would have to do is SAY SO. If he wanted to stop all the discussions about his transfer he should make a statement saying "thanks but no thanks to Madrid, and get on with preparing for next season.

If Alonso wants to go, Robben would be a very good player to bring in.

i'm not missing the point, please give me the fact/source that alonso wants to go! cause as you say it's presumably wants to go, in other words just media bu11sh1t hype.

i still say if anything does come of it, it would weaken the side.

anyway you know as well as me that before a player even has the chance to dismiss rumours fecking agents have their penny's worth anyway just keep sh1t stiring etc.

by **account deleted by request** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:49 am

You know as well as me that Alonso is NOT going to come out and ask for a transfer because that would cost him 10% of the fee. If a players agent does ANYTHING that the player doesn't agree with ...... he would be sacked. Players just use their agents as an excuse when things don't go according to plan.

Maybe Alonso doesn't want to go? If he doesn't he has a peculiar way of showing it. Usually in these situations if a player wants to stay he makes a statement saying how flattered he is by the offer but he has 3 years still on his contract and still has ambitions to fullfill at Liverpool.

The point being IF Alonso wants to go Robben would imo be a good player to take in p/x.

by **Reg** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:00 am

Van Horseface could be another Gary MacAllister, I have a lot of respect for the lad, a natural striker.

by **Owz@t** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:43 am

s@int wrote:Robben IS a diving cheat...... yes, but also one of the best wingers around too.

Sadly the supposed best players around resort to cheating too readily. I guess they have a certain advantage that too many refs know they are good players and assume to be falling to the ground that they have to have been fouled.

It's a shame for football and sometimes the cheats do pay the price when a ref catches on that they go to ground easily and they get less awards than they might have otherwise had. In Ronaldo's case he spent as much time needlessly falling and as much time standing posturing and dissenting, as he did wowing people with his skills and scoring goals.

by **Owz@t** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:49 am

s@int wrote:The point being IF Alonso wants to go Robben would imo be a good player to take in p/x.

Exactly. Only fools rule any options out without even considering them. If we could get £25m+ for Alonso, maybe Robben in part of the deal, and he is not 100% committed to Liverpool, then we should at least consider it.

In an ideal world we wouldn't want to consider selling Alonso, Reina, Kuyt, Torres, Gerrard or Mascherano, but no player is "untouchable" and as I said elsewhere, the club is more important than any one player or manager, and if we can get high money for a player of the type and age, then we should consider it. I bet the mancs considered Ronaldo "untouchable", but in reality everyone has a price (in football)

by **we all dream...** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:46 pm

Would Madrid really sell Snijderr?? If so I'd certianly take him and cash for Alonso, very very good player. I am worried that we could end up losing both Masch and Alonso, if they both want to leave then they will probably both go, especially Masch as his reasons for leaving are to do with his family..

Because of this Rafa needs to be extra shrewed in the market this summer. He needs to know whether he will have either of them come the end fo the summer. If we sell Alonso to Madrid and keep Msch then go for a striker / Winger if we are to lose both then go for a mid-fielder.

When it comes to Robben I am unsure, I'd like to see him here but doubt that it would ever happen, surely he would want to go back to Chelsea? How much is he worth in today's market? 25m? I'm not sure how old he is, he has looked 35 for about 8 years, he mus be nearly 30 by now? Anyway would Madrid not want to keep him, he is world class and could be classed as Galactico. Put it this way, who could they replace him with?

Would Van Nistleroy realy come to Anfield, surely not? He is class though, nailed on 25 goals a season and i played in 442 could work fantastically with Trres but would definately be a great back up striker?

I don't no much about Huntelaars game, but I've heard good things. If we could get a lot of cash plus him then I think this would also be a god deal.

There is my tupence.

by **tubby** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:49 pm

Reg wrote:Van Horseface could be another Gary MacAllister, I have a lot of respect for the lad, a natural striker.

Agreed. If he can stay fit he would be ideal.

by **stmichael** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:08 am

redhayesy wrote:
stmichael wrote:Robben is a super player exactly what we need, if Madrid want Xabi and he wants to go, we should be saying £20m Robben and Horseface and thats the deal, they'll accept that.

now at last i know you are a WUM. sorry it's taken me so long to find out, how silly of me, i'm still fecking laughing now mate -robben is a super player, oh please stop it my stomach's hurting from laughing so much. that's what friday nights are all about after a fecking hard week at work -a fecking good laugh,thanks mate for that.

by **DrPepe** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:12 am

stmichael wrote:
redhayesy wrote:
stmichael wrote:Robben is a super player exactly what we need, if Madrid want Xabi and he wants to go, we should be saying £20m Robben and Horseface and thats the deal, they'll accept that.

now at last i know you are a WUM. sorry it's taken me so long to find out, how silly of me, i'm still fecking laughing now mate -robben is a super player, oh please stop it my stomach's hurting from laughing so much. that's what friday nights are all about after a fecking hard week at work -a fecking good laugh,thanks mate for that.

where the hell did you get that from? :laugh:

by **redhayesy** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:41 pm

stmichael wrote:
redhayesy wrote:
stmichael wrote:Robben is a super player exactly what we need, if Madrid want Xabi and he wants to go, we should be saying £20m Robben and Horseface and thats the deal, they'll accept that.

now at last i know you are a WUM. sorry it's taken me so long to find out, how silly of me, i'm still fecking laughing now mate -robben is a super player, oh please stop it my stomach's hurting from laughing so much. that's what friday nights are all about after a fecking hard week at work -a fecking good laugh,thanks mate for that.

suberb that mate.

by **DrPepe** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:43 pm

redhayesy wrote:
stmichael wrote:
redhayesy wrote:
stmichael wrote:Robben is a super player exactly what we need, if Madrid want Xabi and he wants to go, we should be saying £20m Robben and Horseface and thats the deal, they'll accept that.

now at last i know you are a WUM. sorry it's taken me so long to find out, how silly of me, i'm still fecking laughing now mate -robben is a super player, oh please stop it my stomach's hurting from laughing so much. that's what friday nights are all about after a fecking hard week at work -a fecking good laugh,thanks mate for that.

suberb that mate.

it just keeps on giving :laugh:

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