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Bad Bob wrote:

s@int wrote:As said, Barry is a lot better than some on here think. While these stats are just for a laugh really, they do indicate whether someone has had a decent season or not. Alonso is obviously not in the top 10 midfielders because they must have a seperate category for deep lying playmakers 

I am pleased to see Kuyt getting some sort of recognition for his much improved play in the second half of the season.

Yup, Barry's so good he's ranked higher than Gerrard. 

For something that's supposed to be 'objective' and 'scientific' I find it curious that it speaks about the "10 top midfielders" without acknowledging that wingers, attacking midfielders and deep-lying playmakers perform different functions.  Are they all midfielders?  Perhaps, but are we comparing like for like here?

I'm not sure it really matters which position a player is used - for the Actim stats, "Midfielder" is just an artificial categorisation to help when the reader compares players - it's not like fantasy footy where a defender will get a higher score than a midfielder or forward does when he gets a goal, for example... hence players who don't score any/many goals and CBs getting v high ratings

 

Bad Bob wrote:

s@int wrote:As said, Barry is a lot better than some on here think. While these stats are just for a laugh really, they do indicate whether someone has had a decent season or not. Alonso is obviously not in the top 10 midfielders because they must have a seperate category for deep lying playmakers 

I am pleased to see Kuyt getting some sort of recognition for his much improved play in the second half of the season.

Yup, Barry's so good he's ranked higher than Gerrard. 

For something that's supposed to be 'objective' and 'scientific' I find it curious that it speaks about the "10 top midfielders" without acknowledging that wingers, attacking midfielders and deep-lying playmakers perform different functions.  Are they all midfielders?  Perhaps, but are we comparing like for like here?

Hardly surprising as Gerrard has been playing support striker all season....... thought you might have noticed that 

s@int wrote:

Bad Bob wrote:

s@int wrote:As said, Barry is a lot better than some on here think. While these stats are just for a laugh really, they do indicate whether someone has had a decent season or not. Alonso is obviously not in the top 10 midfielders because they must have a seperate category for deep lying playmakers 

I am pleased to see Kuyt getting some sort of recognition for his much improved play in the second half of the season.

Yup, Barry's so good he's ranked higher than Gerrard. 

For something that's supposed to be 'objective' and 'scientific' I find it curious that it speaks about the "10 top midfielders" without acknowledging that wingers, attacking midfielders and deep-lying playmakers perform different functions.  Are they all midfielders?  Perhaps, but are we comparing like for like here?

Hardly surprising as Gerrard has been playing support striker all season....... thought you might have noticed that 

I certainly did but obviously these statos didn't when they decided to include him amongst the midfielders rather than strikers.

maguskwt wrote:absolutely ridiculous that torres is 10th striker... how can anyone explain that?

DrPepe wrote:

maguskwt wrote:absolutely ridiculous that torres is 10th striker... how can anyone explain that?

cos he didn't play for almost half the season i'd imagine

aCe' wrote:hehe.. as in the best performer this season in the position... if he was considered a forward then the likes of Anelka, RVP, and Torres amongst others would be better calls... wingers i'd go for Ronaldo, Rooney, Young and maybe even Lennon before kuyt...