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by **Alex G.** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:42 pm

Number 9 wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Of course it's bad. It's not good now is it? Carra does not give 100% 100% of the time, look at th West Ham mistake, that was either not 100% or he needs a new job, and dont need a new job!

Anyways, Dossena would win the fight

He's nearing the end of his career mate,his ability has undoubtably started to decline,it does'nt mean his standards have dropped!Nor has he lost his desire to do what he does...keep goals out!

Maybe he's getting a little frustrated at himself as well cause he aint been at his best and is probably conscious of being past it,but it comes to every player in the end,legend or not!
Carra can push or shout at anyone in the team IMO if he feels they are at fault or slacking..cause he's Carra.I love Gerrard but Carra would have been a better captain,hes more of a leader.hes always been more vocal!

The amount of times I've watched that lad(im sure we all have) and been proud as fu'ck of his passion on the pitch for LFC throughout his fantastic career gives him licsence to demand the best from all around him!
As for the W Ham mistake..ffs come on fella!
99% of the games he has played hes been impeccable,lets not start nit picking ffs!

Oh forgot!
Skrtel would rip Dossers legs off and club his head to a pulp with them(if they were not mates)

Carra has made may mistakes included the own goal against Hull at Anfield which cost us the victory.

If you have ever competed in any sport you must know that no one player tolerates or would tolerate what Carra did yesterday.

One thing is hierarchy and other is humiliation. And Carragher is not Beckenbauher as well, his constant long balls and his passes back to Reina, it shows lack of quality.

by **bigmick** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:56 pm

peewee wrote:
stmichael wrote:Don't see what the big fuss is about. I've seen far worse on a football pitch.

yeah, kuyt trying to trap the ball

sorry

by **Number 9** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:12 pm

Alex G. wrote:
Number 9 wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Of course it's bad. It's not good now is it? Carra does not give 100% 100% of the time, look at th West Ham mistake, that was either not 100% or he needs a new job, and dont need a new job!

Anyways, Dossena would win the fight

He's nearing the end of his career mate,his ability has undoubtably started to decline,it does'nt mean his standards have dropped!Nor has he lost his desire to do what he does...keep goals out!

Maybe he's getting a little frustrated at himself as well cause he aint been at his best and is probably conscious of being past it,but it comes to every player in the end,legend or not!
Carra can push or shout at anyone in the team IMO if he feels they are at fault or slacking..cause he's Carra.I love Gerrard but Carra would have been a better captain,hes more of a leader.hes always been more vocal!

The amount of times I've watched that lad(im sure we all have) and been proud as fu'ck of his passion on the pitch for LFC throughout his fantastic career gives him licsence to demand the best from all around him!
As for the W Ham mistake..ffs come on fella!
99% of the games he has played hes been impeccable,lets not start nit picking ffs!

Oh forgot!
Skrtel would rip Dossers legs off and club his head to a pulp with them(if they were not mates)

Carra has made may mistakes included the own goal against Hull at Anfield which cost us the victory.

If you have ever competed in any sport you must know that no one player tolerates or would tolerate what Carra did yesterday.

One thing is hierarchy and other is humiliation. And Carragher is not Beckenbauher as well, his constant long balls and his passes back to Reina, it shows lack of quality.

Maybe Im wrong then,but the way i see it is Carra is a legend..The likes of Arbeloa should be looking up to him.If they are not there is something wrong,but again its just my opinion.
Arby is a good player but he will never be a Carra..never never never.
Yeah you are right,ya dont do that in sport,granted.Whats worse though?
1) having a bit of a passionate(cause you care) battle on the pitch.
2)Or not giving a feck?
Sometimes it boils over and that is all that happened.Too many on here listening to sky like its the gospel and taking in gutter press!

Whats done is done..it sure as fuc'k has not harmed our club.So where....show me is the problem?
Are we to be worried cause UTD think its funny or the press upsize it and dress it as an internal disaster?Im not..you can bet the players are not and neither is Rafa..its no big deal.
People on here should look at it from another perspective!

by **burjennio** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:22 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
burjennio wrote:
Bad Bob: Skrtel will be glad he wasn't playing then, as I'm sure Carra's got a thing or two to say to him.

I couldnt see him sayin it without at least carrying a loaded gun, or a cannon, you know as a confidence boost

maybe on the phone, from a secure line that couldnt be traced

send him a letter maybe?

Nah, mate, I've got this feeling that Skrtel isn't anywhere near as hard as he looks. Wouldn't be looking to test that theory out personally, mind, but it's my feeling nonetheless.

mate im not that worried about him being hard, its that he looks that if given the opportunity, he would probably eat me

by **JC_81** » Mon May 18, 2009 11:32 pm

burjennio wrote:Nah, mate, I've got this feeling that Skrtel isn't anywhere near as hard as he looks. Wouldn't be looking to test that theory out personally, mind, but it's my feeling nonetheless.

mate im not that worried about him being hard, its that he looks that if given the opportunity, he would probably eat me[/quote]
I would wager that very few footballers are particularly 'hard'. They live in a world where they are millionaires by 21 and are conditioned to hit the deck at the slightest of breezes. Just my opinion.

by **Number 9** » Tue May 19, 2009 7:36 am

john craig wrote:
burjennio wrote:Nah, mate, I've got this feeling that Skrtel isn't anywhere near as hard as he looks. Wouldn't be looking to test that theory out personally, mind, but it's my feeling nonetheless.

mate im not that worried about him being hard, its that he looks that if given the opportunity, he would probably eat me

I would wager that very few footballers are particularly 'hard'. They live in a world where they are millionaires by 21 and are conditioned to hit the deck at the slightest of breezes. Just my opinion.[/quote]
Good point!!
Pussies the lot of em,would'nt last a wing in the Kebab house on Donegal Rd at 2 am on a Sat night!

by **Owzat** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:05 am

*_Ruthless_* wrote:Big Carra fan but he went abit too far on Arbeloa ... Heat of the moment kind of stuff and they have kissed and made up so all is good!

As I said before, I think Arbeloa said something back to Carra. Carra goes off on one at him, Arbeloa faces up to him and then Carra pushes him. Surely there's every chance Arbeloa said a 'trigger word' to Carra that made him go from shouting to shoving.

Carra may not have had his best season, can't be easy with a different partner at CB every week, not much defensive cover from either full back and being the only one of the back four to have played 30+ games in the league this season. Highlighting Carra's one-off fluffed kick against West Ham is a bit of a joke as that is far from representitive of his season.

DEFENDER PREMIERSHIP APPS 08/09

37 Carragher
29 Arbeloa
23 Aurelio
20 Skrtel
17 Agger
16 Dossena
14 Hyypia
10 Insua

Mascherano played RB as well, tht's NINE different defenders covering four positions - or two complete back fours. Only THREE players have played all 37 games, Kuyt and Reina the other two. Alonso, Benayoun and Gerrard have all played 30+ times as well, wasn't Yossi whinging about lack of opportunity earlier in the season?

Despite all the defensive shuffling and problems of zonal marking, this season Liverpool have conceded the second least number of goals in a Premiership season.

LEAST GOALS CONCEDED (LIVERPOOL, PREMIERSHIP)

25 05/06
26 08/09 (one to play)
27 06/07
28 07/08
30 99/00
30 01/02

LEAST GOALS CONCEDED (LIVERPOOL, TOP FLIGHT)

1. 16 78/79 (42 games)
=2. 24 68/69 (42 games)
=2. 24 70/71 (42 games)
=2. 24 87/88 (40 games)
5. 25 05/06 (38 games)
6. 26 08/09 (37 games)
7. 27 06/07 (38 games)
=8. 28 88/89 (38 games)
=8. 28 07/08 (38 games)

Just think what might have been but for poor defending against Arsenal in that 4-4. Three needless goals given away, we could be on for the second lowest but for that defending.

by **cpc4eva** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:18 am

i cant believe how many namby pambys posts ive read on here regarding carra vs arbi.....

if this was the 1960s, 1970s or 1980s the responses would be those showing balls and strength none of this weak trash talk

while it may not look good on the pitch on video or in the papers - who gives a stuff about those brain washing mediums

as a passionate LFC fan it is beautiful to watch

showed real spirit of shankley

showed that the players in this case carra strives to the highest standards and is fed up with second best results and defending / play by others

about time someone showed some real balls

the game meant nothing as the title race had already been won and lost ....

however it showed real fire in the belly enthusiasm, its what we've been missing for a long time in our players and i hope the fire keeps burning in them over the summer break and is burning red hot for the start of the new season

"The on-field row between Jamie Carragher and Alvaro Arbeloa which overshadowed Liverpool's 2-0 win over West Bromwich Albion is evidence of the winning mentality Rafael Benitez has instilled in his team, according to goalkeeper Pepe Reina."

lets hope so pepe, if i see a few more passionate dust ups on the pitch between our players because of slack performances / defending wont see me writing namby pamby posts

come on reds come on reds keep that fire in your bellies keep that spirit of shankley burning keep up the strong performances and we'll get that title next season

come on reds come on reds yo'll never walk alone................

by **burjennio** » Tue May 19, 2009 1:14 pm

Number 9 wrote:
john craig wrote:
burjennio wrote:Nah, mate, I've got this feeling that Skrtel isn't anywhere near as hard as he looks. Wouldn't be looking to test that theory out personally, mind, but it's my feeling nonetheless.

mate im not that worried about him being hard, its that he looks that if given the opportunity, he would probably eat me

I would wager that very few footballers are particularly 'hard'. They live in a world where they are millionaires by 21 and are conditioned to hit the deck at the slightest of breezes. Just my opinion.

Good point!!
Pussies the lot of em,would'nt last a wing in the Kebab house on Donegal Rd at 2 am on a Sat night!

[/quote]
none of them would have the cahones to even go into SPUDZ!

by **Number 9** » Tue May 19, 2009 5:38 pm

burjennio wrote:
Number 9 wrote:
john craig wrote:
burjennio wrote:Nah, mate, I've got this feeling that Skrtel isn't anywhere near as hard as he looks. Wouldn't be looking to test that theory out personally, mind, but it's my feeling nonetheless.

mate im not that worried about him being hard, its that he looks that if given the opportunity, he would probably eat me

I would wager that very few footballers are particularly 'hard'. They live in a world where they are millionaires by 21 and are conditioned to hit the deck at the slightest of breezes. Just my opinion.

Good point!!
Pussies the lot of em,would'nt last a wing in the Kebab house on Donegal Rd at 2 am on a Sat night!

none of them would have the cahones to even go into SPUDZ![/quote]
:laugh:

Aint had a Spudz in ages!!

by **burjennio** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:58 am

Number 9 wrote:
burjennio wrote:
Number 9 wrote:
john craig wrote:
burjennio wrote:Nah, mate, I've got this feeling that Skrtel isn't anywhere near as hard as he looks. Wouldn't be looking to test that theory out personally, mind, but it's my feeling nonetheless.

mate im not that worried about him being hard, its that he looks that if given the opportunity, he would probably eat me

I would wager that very few footballers are particularly 'hard'. They live in a world where they are millionaires by 21 and are conditioned to hit the deck at the slightest of breezes. Just my opinion.

Good point!!
Pussies the lot of em,would'nt last a wing in the Kebab house on Donegal Rd at 2 am on a Sat night!

none of them would have the cahones to even go into SPUDZ!

Aint had a Spudz in ages!![/quote]
mate chicken curry on pastas worth losing a tooth for

by **we all dream...** » Wed May 20, 2009 5:48 pm

Thought I'd throw my 2penneth in. Well done Carra for showing passion copuld have controlled it better but I think it just shows how passionate he is and that he isnt afraid to tell others who are not pulling their weight to pull their act together. It was funny, Arby looked like he wanted to cry for the next five minutes and stuck close by his mate xabi.

With regards tot :censored:

o'Anfield in my opinion it has to be Masch or squirts for me, but I'd certainly give it a go if they offered. Neither would want to get there £2000 jacket dirty.

by **cpc4eva** » Wed May 20, 2009 11:10 pm

aaah memories....

grobbelaar vs mcmanaman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFqYv27kHc8

now just need to find grobbelaar vs Beglin 1986 fa cup bust up

by **roberto green** » Mon May 25, 2009 2:08 pm

Does anyone know the reason behind Arbeloa not playing yesterday, I just thought it was strange that he didn't play after last weeks events?

by **Bad Bob** » Mon May 25, 2009 3:50 pm

roberto green wrote:Does anyone know the reason behind Arbeloa not playing yesterday, I just thought it was strange that he didn't play after last weeks events?

An injury was mentioned in the Echo match report.

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