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by **JC_81** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:38 pm

bavlondon wrote:Glen Johnson for 10mil should be one of Rafas primary targets. You dont need to spend 25m on a full back, just enough for them to get the job done. He can come forward, is quick and atheltic. But he is more aggressive than Arebeloa which i like.

Pity he can't defend though!

by **JC_81** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:40 pm

woof woof ! wrote:Get rid of Mash ? F'uck it ! what next ? Lets get rid of Riena , he doesn't get forward enough ?

Nah get rid of Torres. Not good enough.

by **Fowler_E7** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:41 pm

john craig wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Glen Johnson for 10mil should be one of Rafas primary targets. You dont need to spend 25m on a full back, just enough for them to get the job done. He can come forward, is quick and atheltic. But he is more aggressive than Arebeloa which i like.

Pity he can't defend though!

cant be any worse than Arbeloa?

by **JC_81** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:43 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:
john craig wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Glen Johnson for 10mil should be one of Rafas primary targets. You dont need to spend 25m on a full back, just enough for them to get the job done. He can come forward, is quick and atheltic. But he is more aggressive than Arebeloa which i like.

Pity he can't defend though!

cant be any worse than Arbeloa?

Be serious mate. I'm not getting into a debate about this. Arbeloa is a good defender. Johnson is not.

by **Fowler_E7** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:46 pm

john craig wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
john craig wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Glen Johnson for 10mil should be one of Rafas primary targets. You dont need to spend 25m on a full back, just enough for them to get the job done. He can come forward, is quick and atheltic. But he is more aggressive than Arebeloa which i like.

Pity he can't defend though!

cant be any worse than Arbeloa?

Be serious mate. I'm not getting into a debate about this. Arbeloa is a good defender. Johnson is not.

i wouldnt say that, i would say there of similar abilty defensive wise and that Johnson is far superior going forward. Arbeloa is ok, but nothing special, but someone like Johnson under a good coach like Benitez could definitely move up a level or two, good player IMO

by **JoeTerp** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:50 pm

You don't sell Mascherano.

If Agger leaves it will be interesting to see what kind of replacement we bring in. A like for like ball playing centre half? or someone that will be dominant in the air. I would suggest Hangeland or Wheater, as Hyypia could leave as well, and the two best centre back prospects in the ressies, Mikel San Jose and Martin Kelly are both pretty good with the ball at their feet, especially San Jose.

With Insua coming up, I think Dossena has to leave, as well as Babel, Degen, and Voronin. And then we should sell Leto, Flynn, Lindfield, Ajdarevic, Brouwer, Roque, Threlfall, Plessis, El Zhar, Hansen, Mendy, Antwi, Crowther, Putterill, Flora, Simon, and one of Anderson and Hammill. And we have already sold Hobbs.

Total Sales estimate: £30 Million

With my £55M I would by David Wheater, Glen Johnson, Diego and Fernando Torres Llorente/Alvaro Negredo

Not really sure if we need much of a boost to our first XI. Seems to be working out pretty well right now. Right now, I would say the only solid player we have on our bench when everybody is fully fit is whoever isn't playing between Riera, Kuyt, and Yossi.

by **GYBS** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:54 pm

jesus are people wanting a squad overhaul again ? surely we are not at the stage where it just needs a little tweak here and there - a couple at the most new signings to improve a squad that challenging for title going into may .

by **Fowler_E7** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:59 pm

GYBS wrote:jesus are people wanting a squad overhaul again ? surely we are not at the stage where it just needs a little tweak here and there - a couple at the most new signings to improve a squad that challenging for title going into may .

i think thats what most people want, but there is plenty to sell in the squad if thats what you mean by overhaul? I think we need a right back a right winger and a striker desperatly, then a centre back if we any money left. If money is problem which is a likely scenario then we must offload the dead wood in the squad, which there is plenty of IMO

by **RedBlood** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:01 pm

same old story, id sell: dossena,itandje,degen,voronin and any players on loan thats are not gonna be first teamers aka hammil anderson etc ... i reckon we could get 10million from the sale of these players, they wouldnt be missed and we could buy 2 or 3 good players with 35million
i wouldnt sell babel agger or lucas as i believe they have alot to offer in the future and present

by **GYBS** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:02 pm

right winger

why buy a winger when we dont have anyone who thrives on wing play ?? even reira isnt a hug the touchline winger its a skillfull attacking midfielder we need - someone who can go left or right out wide behind torres like arshaving or silva etc . a right back i agree - a striker as back up to torres but not a 30 million pound one .

in your eyes there is deadwood but in the managers eys they are squad players that we need .

by **akumaface** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:05 pm

I think Rafa will sell Agger only because he doesn't want to stay. I like Agger as he got a wicked left foot and is good carry the ball up field. But if you ask me what attribute should a CB possess given the choice of either Offense or Defense? I believe the answer is always defense. IF it is imminent that Agger will leave, then Rafa need to find someone cheap and practical no non-sense kind of player. I don't have any names but I'm sure Rafa can find someone somewhere who fits the requirement. Really don't want Agger to go but if no choice then we should get him for around 8million.

As for Lucas, Degen and Dossena, I would sell them without even blinking. But I agree that Lucas will likely stay given Rafa's support on the lad. As for Degen, don't think anyone will buy him as I don't even know how he looks......So, that leave Dossena and he should be able to fetch around 5million from some italian club. As for Babel, I really think we should give him at least till next January before selling him. I have the feeling that if we sell him to Arsenal, Wenger can sell him for 20million

. Anyway, he might go but it might be a mistake. Voronin, I will get what we can and 3million tops. So, with the original 25million plus 8 (agger) plus 5 (Dossena) and 3 million (Voronin), Rafa should have around 41million to spend. But not sure if the Yanks would allow Rafa to fully utlilize all of the 41million. With this figure, I hope rafa would get Barry (only if around 8million and below), 1CB (3 to 5 million), 1 RB (hopefully not glen johnson), I RW ( i think Kuyt will continue as our starting RW and I expect it won't be someone world class but more like Riera but right footed). Lastly, a forward (I think if Torres is healthy, he will always start and thus I wouldn't break the bank for someone like Silva or Tevez as SG is best at where he is now. Basically, the FW is for cover only but would like to have someone like Carew or Klose as they provide us with something different. One of them may cause around 5 to 10 million). That should takes us just under 40million. I should have mentioned Itanje but i guess no one wants him. If we can sell Lucas as an additional sale and bring Spearing, we should save the money for next jan.

ANyway, i believe we will get a bump if we win the league this year. So, we'll see.

by **supersub** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:06 pm

GYBS wrote:do you really think degen is gone mate ? the guy hasnt had a chance and we wouldnt get a penny for him ?

do you not think dossena will be given another season as he proved himself useful towards the end or will rafa be ruthless with him ?

I just think they will be moved on to draw in as much money as possible for the targets.
Apparently one of the targets plays anywhere across the back and with Aurelio and Insua already ahead in the pecking order I can't see justification in keeping another left back if a good offer comes in.....

Degen...that many injuries doesn't bode well for the future

by **GYBS** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:08 pm

Yeah maybe - so dossena for 6 million and degen for a packet of crisps then

by **supersub** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:09 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:
john craig wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Glen Johnson for 10mil should be one of Rafas primary targets. You dont need to spend 25m on a full back, just enough for them to get the job done. He can come forward, is quick and atheltic. But he is more aggressive than Arebeloa which i like.

Pity he can't defend though!

cant be any worse than Arbeloa?

Rest my case :sleep

by **Fowler_E7** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:13 pm

supersub wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
john craig wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Glen Johnson for 10mil should be one of Rafas primary targets. You dont need to spend 25m on a full back, just enough for them to get the job done. He can come forward, is quick and atheltic. But he is more aggressive than Arebeloa which i like.

Pity he can't defend though!

cant be any worse than Arbeloa?

Rest my case

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