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by **112-1077774096** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:37 am

So the end of the season draws ever closer, and barring a collapse from the mancs we are about to end our third season on the trot without a trophy, added to the indignity that the mancs (if they don't collapse) will draw level on 18 trophies.

We have seen improvement this season, we have also seen too many draws this season (again), we have seen amazing performances, we have seen some of the most dire performances I have seen the reds involved in, we have seen we have the ability to challenge when we actually play football as it should be played, we have seen competitors falter, we have seen us fail to take advantage by being too careful, we have seen us weaken our team for many games, we have seen some players are not good enough and we have seen some players that many believed were not good enough prove their worth, we have seen the beauty that is torres and the clogger that is dirk, we have seen boardroom battles played out in the press which should never happen. we have shown that having 5 30 million quid players does not give any guarantees so lets put that excuse to bed, we have seen a player used as a political pawn, we have seen one of the younger guys prove he is worth a place (Insua). We have seen our captain in court, we have seen delays on the new stadium, we have seen another excuse put to rest that the owners are to blame for poor football, if they are to blame for that then they now need credit for us being second etc etc etc

anyway, discuss

by **GYBS** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:39 am

And we have taken great strides for us challenging for the title in years to come - for me thats the most important thing - we havent won this year due to too many draws and not getting results in jan when we were leading - no other reasons or excuses - the players and manager just fell short when needed but we have the platform now to achieve better things next season .

by **Jonas Blane** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:41 am

It was en eventful season, which I'm enjoying. Next year is our year, not much to add really.

Nando was injured a lot, the same with Steven... On the bright side, it was another great year for Carragher! I thought Dirk delivered, too.

Next season we need more luck with injuries, a stable boardroom, and a world class striker to partner with Nando and we'll be fine.

by **Jonas Blane** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:43 am

GYBS wrote:And we have taken great strides for us challenging for the title in years to come - for me thats the most important thing - we havent won this year due to too many draws and not getting results in jan when we were leading - no other reasons or excuses - the players and manager just fell short when needed but we have the platform now to achieve better things next season .

Taking great strides is not enough for a club like ours, we need to win it next year. 20 years we're making up excuses, I'm sick of this.

by **burjennio** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:44 am

we have seen the emergence of MEXICAN SWINE FLU! ARRRRRRRAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH! WE'RE ALL GONNA F*CKIN DIE! CALL THE POLICE! CALL THE ARMY! CALL THE GHOSTBUSTERS!

Scratch that, someone get me half a dozen pigs, 2 dirty Mexicans and a map to Old Trafford

by **GYBS** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:45 am

unfortunatley it is not as easy as that and we will just have to see what happens during the summer with players being brought in and also what happens with the other lcubs and the players they bring in . you cant just win the title overnight - you have to build towards it and yes while it maybe a slow fustrating proccess it is still something that needs to be done , i would rather build for a long line of success than one oivernight quick win then nothing for years .

by **DrPepe** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:51 am

Jonas Blane wrote:It was en eventful season, which I'm enjoying. Next year is our year, not much to add really.

Nando was injured a lot, the same with Steven... On the bright side, it was another great year for Carragher! I thought Dirk delivered, too.

Next season we need more luck with injuries, a stable boardroom, and a world class striker to partner with Nando and we'll be fine.

seriously think carra has been way past his best

check out his performances in imposing 2004-2006 and compare to this years :down:

by **Jonas Blane** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:55 am

DrPepe wrote:
Jonas Blane wrote:It was en eventful season, which I'm enjoying. Next year is our year, not much to add really.

Nando was injured a lot, the same with Steven... On the bright side, it was another great year for Carragher! I thought Dirk delivered, too.

Next season we need more luck with injuries, a stable boardroom, and a world class striker to partner with Nando and we'll be fine.

seriously think carra has been way past his best

check out his performances in imposing 2004-2006 and compare to this years

Don't worry mate, he's still as good as he ever was.

I hope he won't end up as the best player never to win the league :sleepy:

by **GYBS** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:56 am

carra hasnt been at his best this season - still been good but he has played lots better in previoous years

by **macaroon** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:56 am

I think a new GK is required, if not necessarily to replace Pepe immediately, to put pressure on him and possibly takeover within two seasons. Reina has been shaky of late and I believe that like Cech he needs a keeper breathing down his neck to get the best out of him - Dudek, Itandmoron, and Cavalieiri were never going to really challegne (to being with none were really givn the chance or had the personality to)

by **Jonas Blane** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:58 am

GYBS wrote:unfortunatley it is not as easy as that and we will just have to see what happens during the summer with players being brought in and also what happens with the other lcubs and the players they bring in . you cant just win the title overnight - you have to build towards it and yes while it maybe a slow fustrating proccess it is still something that needs to be done , i would rather build for a long line of success than one oivernight quick win then nothing for years .

I agree that it's a slow process, but with the amount of money Rafa has thrown to build the team, and the quality of the team he inherited in the first place, we should be expecting a title next year or the next. If not, then we need to question if Rafa is the man for the job.

I mean, perhaps I'm over reacting, but do you realise that it will be 20 years next year that we haven't won the league?

by **Ciggy** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:58 am

One things for certain quickest season ever its flown over, Ive never known a season like it. maybe because its been more exciting than previous ones, when we have been out of the title race by chrimbo. You think to yourself roll on next season. Not this year though, I dont want it to end.

by **GYBS** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:00 am

macaroon wrote:I think a new GK is required, if not necessarily to replace Pepe immediately, to put pressure on him and possibly takeover within two seasons. Reina has been shaky of late and I believe that like Cech he needs a keeper breathing down his neck to get the best out of him - Dudek, Itandmoron, and Cavalieiri were never going to really challegne (to being with none were really givn the chance or had the personality to)

take over reina in two season

? why ?? reina has ten years maybe more at the top left in him .

by **Jonas Blane** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:01 am

macaroon wrote:I think a new GK is required, if not necessarily to replace Pepe immediately, to put pressure on him and possibly takeover within two seasons. Reina has been shaky of late and I believe that like Cech he needs a keeper breathing down his neck to get the best out of him - Dudek, Itandmoron, and Cavalieiri were never going to really challegne (to being with none were really givn the chance or had the personality to)

Hi mate, you have found better words to explain my position!

Maybe he is feeling safe knowing that he's unchallenged, anyway he cost us points with his errors lately, and I hope he can bring his A-game back quickly. I'm still not convinced that he can play well for a full season, that would be too bad if we missed the title by a few points next year due to avoidable goalkeeping mistakes.

Rafa, bring on a challenger :buttrock

by **GYBS** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:03 am

Jonas Blane wrote:
GYBS wrote:unfortunatley it is not as easy as that and we will just have to see what happens during the summer with players being brought in and also what happens with the other lcubs and the players they bring in . you cant just win the title overnight - you have to build towards it and yes while it maybe a slow fustrating proccess it is still something that needs to be done , i would rather build for a long line of success than one oivernight quick win then nothing for years .

I agree that it's a slow process, but with the amount of money Rafa has thrown to build the team, and the quality of the team he inherited in the first place, we should be expecting a title next year or the next. If not, then we need to question if Rafa is the man for the job.

I mean, perhaps I'm over reacting, but do you realise that it will be 20 years next year that we haven't won the league?

well the quality of the team rafa got from GH finished 30 odd points from the winners - yeah he has spent a fair bit of money but has had to rebuild from scratch bar a few class players - gerrard and carra etc .

we shouldnt expect anything more want and hope - expecting things is where dissappoints come from -

i wanted a challenge this season - at least be in it with 5 games to go and we are - hopefully with the additions of a couple of signings we can make the next step

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