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tonyeh wrote:

oh so now its not just rafas overall second half tactics and subs it is all down to rafa subbing reira for babel read your first post slagging off his subs . so is it just that sub specifically you think is the reason we havent won the league ??

You were told to get back to work.

And don't type another post until you have something intelligent to say.

GYBS wrote:so how come we have come from behind to win games then ? how come in the second half we have turned draws into wins ?? was it a miracle ? did babel not come onto to score the winner against mancs did he not come onto to set up gerrard for his great goal against madrid ??!  or did we all imagine that .

SuppleMonkey wrote:Is it always like this on here ?

No, sometimes it gets heated 

Bad Bob wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

oh so now its not just rafas overall second half tactics and subs it is all down to rafa subbing reira for babel read your first post slagging off his subs . so is it just that sub specifically you think is the reason we havent won the league ??

You were told to get back to work.

And don't type another post until you have something intelligent to say.

Tony, you seem to be losing your way a little bit here.  You say Rafa's subs have been ineffectual and someone has offered some very interesting numbers to counter your point.  Have you come back with a counter argument?  No.  You've instead opted to ignore the numbers and tell others to stop talking sh!t.  I'm sorry but I think the numbers are compelling evidence that Rafa's substitutions and tactics are not nearly as negative and ineffectual as you're suggesting.  If you disagree that's your prerogative of course but I'm far more convinced by those that are supposedly "talking sh!t".

That wasn't an argument to show that Benitez's subs have had a generally positive effect on the outcome of Liverpool's matches and saying Babel scored the winner against Utd ain't proving it either.

In order to do that, you would have to break it down and show exactly who, what and where each sub's impact on the game was felt. Perhaps Owzat may want to do that. I don't.

But simply put, after watching the entire season, my over-riding sense is that on the whole (that's generally Judge
  ), Benitez's substitution policy(especially waiting til the 60 minute mark to make any changes whatsoever) has been GENERALLY ineffectual.

GYBS wrote:just as i thought - you havent got a clue have you and just showing the anti rafa once again but been rpoven wrong .

bye bye

tonyeh wrote:

Bad Bob wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

oh so now its not just rafas overall second half tactics and subs it is all down to rafa subbing reira for babel read your first post slagging off his subs . so is it just that sub specifically you think is the reason we havent won the league ??

You were told to get back to work.

And don't type another post until you have something intelligent to say.

Tony, you seem to be losing your way a little bit here.  You say Rafa's subs have been ineffectual and someone has offered some very interesting numbers to counter your point.  Have you come back with a counter argument?  No.  You've instead opted to ignore the numbers and tell others to stop talking sh!t.  I'm sorry but I think the numbers are compelling evidence that Rafa's substitutions and tactics are not nearly as negative and ineffectual as you're suggesting.  If you disagree that's your prerogative of course but I'm far more convinced by those that are supposedly "talking sh!t".

That wasn't an argument to show that Benitez's subs have had a generally positive effect on the outcome of Liverpool's matches and saying Babel scored the winner against Utd ain't proving it either.

In order to do that, you would have to break it down and show exactly who, what and where each sub's impact on the game was felt. Perhaps Owzat may want to do that. I don't.

But simply put, after watching the entire season, my over-riding sense is that on the whole (that's generally Judge
  ), Benitez's substitution policy(especially waiting til the 60 minute mark to make any changes whatsoever) has been GENERALLY ineffectual.

Judge wrote:can someone change tonyeh post name to GENERAL

Field Marshal sounds better..   

Scottbot wrote:

simolonge wrote:on rafael Benitez's apparent suicidal decision not to bring in a replacement for Robbie Keane that we where apparently desperate for.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but we aint done all that bad since.

I would argue his sale has resulted in more plyers playing better.

The decision to get £15m for the player looks like a masterstroke.

At the time I though it was a ridiculous decision and I still stand by that, it was a huge risk but fortunately and thankfully our star striker has gone from strength to strength, and our subsequent form since the sale of Keane has gone nearly as well. The manager has been well and truly vindicated but it could so easily have gone the other way i think. It's a bit like playing a game without a substitute goalkeeper on your bench, if you get through the full 90 with your first-choice keeper intact no-one will even remember but if he gets injured and you have to stick your left-mid in goal, your in all sorts of trouble!

tonyeh wrote:

Judge wrote:can someone change tonyeh post name to GENERAL

Field Marshal sounds better..