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by **maypaxvobiscum** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:28 am

i just started my first year degree course for law and im pretty intimidated. the english legal system is so bloody complex and with the recent plans to establish a Supreme Court, there's more to learn. this is just scary as compared to the singapore law, there is a massive amount of difference especially in the hierarchy. not forgetting all the legal terms in which you must easily grasp. and the latin phrases which you need to know. besides that, certain words in layman terms have a complete different meaning in legal terms.

2 weeks into school and for the first time i'm actually doubting myself. law is my passion and i believe its something i can excel in...maybe im just bedding in? of course before school started i had already been reading up as much as i can - self study - but i do feel kinda lost sometimes and theres a huge burden of expectations on me from family especially and close friends, to pass with flying colors. i know besides me, Greavesie is doing law as well. anyone else who might have any tips for studies or interesting facts regards to law in UK?

thanks all.

by **GRAHAM01** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:36 am

not really my bag mate but i'm sure you will get up to speed soon enough and you will start loving it

if you have a passion, as you seem to tthings will just start to make sence and all come good

so get your head in those books and good luck mate just keep going

by **Judge** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:36 am

in this country if you do owt wrong you go to jail, in your country if you aint done owt or your a women wearing jeans, you go to jail

easy

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:41 am

thanks Graham. right now im buried in the House of Lords and im wondering if any excerpt from the Magna Carta is included in today's law.

JUdge what is ''owt"?

by **112-1077774096** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:48 am

I have law degree mate, the degree you need to treat as a job and study all day, even when not in lectures or seminars. I had a good standing already in criminal law and it was not easy to do tort law knowing the criminal side, also public law is not easy so I never took any electives in it after the first year. Contract law I found quite easy.

our lectures were optional and seminars were marked so we had to attend them, if i attended all lectures and seminars it added up to about 15 hours per week, the lectures give you the skeleton for up coming seminars and you have to put the flesh on to answer questions put to you at the seminar. if you just do this15 hours you will fail, look at doing around 30 hours per week minimum.

The important thing is to understand the concept of something, as an example if you don't know what a 'reasonable man' is then don't move on until you understand it.

The hardest part is remembering stated cases for exams where you need to quote them in such a manner that the examiner can turn to the exact page in the statute (example) and find it (although he will already know it).

all in all if you work hard you will pass, it's not an easy course (second only to medicine I believe), if you don't understand something there is no embarrassment in asking (I am sure there will be others there who don't understand also).

also don't worry about the latin, its not hard to learn the latin, you don't need to speak latin, its just that certain things have a latin name such as actus reus and mens reus and you learn these quite easily

by **GRAHAM01** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:50 am

maypaxvobiscum wrote:thanks Graham. right now im buried in the House of Lords and im wondering if any excerpt from the Magna Carta is included in today's law.

JUdge what is ''owt"?

sorry mate god knows, i know very little within the inners of law

in answer to owt it means anything as in if some one does anything in this country they go to jail

by **JBG** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:50 am

I'm a law lecturer, albeit in Irish law, although that has many similarities to English law as its also a common law system.

by **GRAHAM01** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:54 am

it good to know if i get in trouble i can come on here to find some one to get me off

by **112-1077774096** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:54 am

GRAHAM01 wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:thanks Graham. right now im buried in the House of Lords and im wondering if any excerpt from the Magna Carta is included in today's law.

JUdge what is ''owt"?

sorry mate god knows, i know very little within the inners of law

in answer to owt it means anything as in if some one does anything in this country they go to jail

some clauses are still in force but most were repealed, this is not my strength mate.

chat with JBG when he logs in, he is a lawyer

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:09 pm

today's article i got was a landmark case in 1976 i think regarding how a Sikh sued a school for discrimination when he was told that his son wasnt accepted due to his turban which doesnt comply with the school uniform. the parents lost the case but finally won it after 2 appeals.

Peewee: agree about the lecture/seminars bit. im amazed at the amount of time i have left each week but i also realize this is due to the fact that i've to do my own studies on my own accord. right now they are doing an induction programme to familiarize us with the legal system. tort and criminal studies will come soon in maybe 3 weeks i guess. ive also done abit of reading on forensic science. it does have a huge say in evidence i reckon.

JBG: you mind if i were to ask you questions should i have any doubts?

by **Greavesie** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:01 am

hey Rajiv, sorry to hear your struggles, what exactly is it you are struggling with? I studied this last year and at A level so I'm pretty clued up if I dare say so myself

What's the structure of the module? when I did it it included Judicial Precedent, Interpretation, Del Legislation and other things, is yours like that?

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:38 pm

hey mate

rive never heard of those words before

im sure i'll get the hang of things though in time. just a matter of time before i find my momentum.

by **Greavesie** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:54 pm

is the module entitled th english legal system? what part of it are you currently learning?

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:09 pm

Greavesie wrote:is the module entitled the english legal system? what part of it are you currently learning?

im currently on Legal Language. its not titled english legal system. previously we were briefly going through the hierarchy but we will learn that in more detail soon.

the degree im doing is from the Univ of London. learning the legal system in UK therefore is compulsory as we need to know how things work i guess? proper lectures hasn't started yet cause they are still conducting induction programmes but i already know the 4 subjects im doing in my first year - criminal law, public law, common law and reasoning institutions and elements of the law of contract.

by **NANNY RED** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:25 pm

Greavesie wrote:hey Rajiv, sorry to hear your struggles, what exactly is it you are struggling with? I studied this last year and at A level so I'm pretty clued up if I dare say so myself

What's the structure of the module? when I did it it included Judicial Precedent, Interpretation, Del Legislation and other things, is yours like that?

Will you be my breif Greavsie :;):

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