Bad Bob wrote:Sir Roger wrote:Fickle?
How can we beat chelsea twice with the same group of players and then get whacked like that?
Chelsea didnt play fantastic. We played. To a man.
Rafa got it wrong. Simple. Some would have you believe he has no influence at all and the game just pans itself out.
Wrong!
He calls the shots and pulls the strings. He made a bloomer last night and we would all be better off accepting that and moving on. Hopefully he has learned and will set things right for the second leg.
If not expect much of the same
Okay, say you're Rafa and it's an hour before kick off last night. How would you set us up? Again, say you're Rafa and the game's panning out how we see it unfold last night. What would you change? I'm still struggling to see what could have been done much differently. IMO, he picked pretty much the best available lineup and employed the same tactics that have been so successful for us of late. We grabbed the early goal that we would have been hoping for but, from there, the wheels slowly came off through a series of errors from players who, up until last night, had been fit and firing on all cylinders. So, yeah, I struggle to see how last night was primarily down to Rafa besides in the generic sense that the buck always stops with the manager when players fail to perform.
Sir Roger wrote:Fickle?
How can we beat chelsea twice with the same group of players and then get whacked like that?
Chelsea didnt play fantastic. We played. To a man.
Rafa got it wrong. Simple. Some would have you believe he has no influence at all and the game just pans itself out.
Wrong!
He calls the shots and pulls the strings. He made a bloomer last night and we would all be better off accepting that and moving on. Hopefully he has learned and will set things right for the second leg.
If not expect much of the same
Bad Bob wrote:Sir Roger wrote:Fickle?
How can we beat chelsea twice with the same group of players and then get whacked like that?
Chelsea didnt play fantastic. We played. To a man.
Rafa got it wrong. Simple. Some would have you believe he has no influence at all and the game just pans itself out.
Wrong!
He calls the shots and pulls the strings. He made a bloomer last night and we would all be better off accepting that and moving on. Hopefully he has learned and will set things right for the second leg.
If not expect much of the same
Okay, say you're Rafa and it's an hour before kick off last night. How would you set us up? Again, say you're Rafa and the game's panning out how we see it unfold last night. What would you change? I'm still struggling to see what could have been done much differently. IMO, he picked pretty much the best available lineup and employed the same tactics that have been so successful for us of late. We grabbed the early goal that we would have been hoping for but, from there, the wheels slowly came off through a series of errors from players who, up until last night, had been fit and firing on all cylinders. So, yeah, I struggle to see how last night was primarily down to Rafa besides in the generic sense that the buck always stops with the manager when players fail to perform.
zarababe wrote:Sir Roger wrote:Fickle?
How can we beat chelsea twice with the same group of players and then get whacked like that?
Chelsea didnt play fantastic. We played. To a man.
Rafa got it wrong. Simple. Some would have you believe he has no influence at all and the game just pans itself out.
Wrong!
He calls the shots and pulls the strings. He made a bloomer last night and we would all be better off accepting that and moving on. Hopefully he has learned and will set things right for the second leg.
If not expect much of the same
Yep - fickle.. ppl like you who can't wait to see failure, .. funny how 'you lot' have been notably absent with praise for how well the team has been playing of late.. we didn't play well for the majority of the game; Gerrard was not fully fit, Mash our lynch pin, absent and towrads the end, the team looked tired.. so we pick our selves up and get on with it ...... as all good footballing teams do .. SIR !
Number 9 wrote:Bottom line is Chelsea were freakishly good last night going by their recent form..and we were well below our usual form of late!
When two teams meet and this is the case,theres only one outcome!
I have to laugh at all the idiots blaming zonal marking.Zonal marking has given us one of the best defensive records in the League season after season since Rafa arrived!So that arguement is just bollox..Two many on here listening to Andy Gray rather than looking at the facts!
Sir Roger wrote:zarababe wrote:Sir Roger wrote:Fickle?
How can we beat chelsea twice with the same group of players and then get whacked like that?
Chelsea didnt play fantastic. We played. To a man.
Rafa got it wrong. Simple. Some would have you believe he has no influence at all and the game just pans itself out.
Wrong!
He calls the shots and pulls the strings. He made a bloomer last night and we would all be better off accepting that and moving on. Hopefully he has learned and will set things right for the second leg.
If not expect much of the same
Yep - fickle.. ppl like you who can't wait to see failure, .. funny how 'you lot' have been notably absent with praise for how well the team has been playing of late.. we didn't play well for the majority of the game; Gerrard was not fully fit, Mash our lynch pin, absent and towrads the end, the team looked tired.. so we pick our selves up and get on with it ...... as all good footballing teams do .. SIR !
Youre mistaken on two points
I can wait to see failure. In fact I can wait forever to see failure because I actually dont want to see it
I wasnt absent with praise for how well the team was playing of late. If you could be ars.ed going back through my posts (I cant) you will see that I praise when its merited and criticise when its not.
I am simpy discussing the things that went wrong in my opinion. As we all can and should. It doesnt make me a Rafa hater or a closet manc. It could be argued that it makes me a proper red because I am willing to question things and not just have blind loyalty. Disagreeing is not treachery. It is democracy.
destro wrote:We lost to a better team on the night, whats the problem, it happens ?
It wasnt Raffas fault or the Team or the Zonal marking, Chelsa played the best they have for ages and we lost![]()
Yes it is hard to take and a lot of people expected us to win the game. It seems a lot of people have been waiting for this blip, prob the same ones who had their attack posts ready after 91 minutes of the Fullham game only to have to delete them seconds later.
We take care of Blackburn first then we go out all guns blazing in the second leg and see what happens and stop trying to look for excuses and just hold our hands up, be gratious in defeat ( no matter how much it hurts ) and say we lost to a better team on the night.
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