LIVERPOOL VS CHELSEA - 7.45 wed 8th april 2009

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Postby Greavesie » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:54 pm

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lakes10 wrote:Bermenstein go and start next weeks tread now...and the weekends thread.

can we have judges thread taken off and let bermenstein strat one

i don't want to risk it  :D

it might jinx Berm tho, leave it as it is I reckon
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Postby tubby » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:54 pm

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Well here we go again...

Its Liverpool vs Chelsea for the fifth consecutive year  :sleep. It got to the stage where we nearly expect to play them in this competition. When the draw was made we all knew it was coming. Both clubs didn't want it, the fans didn't want it, even the players came out and said they didn't want it, but here we are.

The rivalry between Liverpool and Chelsea has intensified over the course of eight UEFA Champions League encounters since 2005. Each side has won two games – but never by more than a single goal.

The full breakdown of results is:

2007/08 semi-final

Liverpool 1-1 Chelsea (Kuyt 43; Riise own goal 90+4)
Chelsea 3-2 Liverpool (Drogba 33 115, Lampard 98 pen; Torres 64, Babel 117)
Chelsea won 4-3 on aggregate

2006/07 semi-final

Chelsea 1-0 Liverpool (J Cole 29)
Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea (Agger 22)
Aggregate 1-1; Liverpool won 4-1 on penalties

2005/06 group stage

Liverpool 0-0 Chelsea
Chelsea 0-0 Liverpool

2004/05 semi-final

Chelsea 0-0 Liverpool
Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea (García 4) :D
Liverpool won 1-0 on aggregate

It has been said that this year Chelsea have an advantage in that the second leg is in London. Last year it proved effective but only just. This year the second leg will be played on Tuesday the 14th of April, the day before the 20th anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster. For that reason alone I think that if we hold an advantage going into the second leg the team will badly want to mark the occasion with progress.

At the moment we are in a rich vein of form and it couldn't have come at a better time. In our last five games we have won all five, scoring 16 goals and conceding 1. Confidence seems to be high throught the team and there is a belief among fans that we can take on and beat anyone at the moment. Chelsea also look good at the moment, they have become stronger since the arrival of Hiddink and in their last 5 games the have won 3, drawn 1 and lost 1. Crucially they have Essien back and if Drogba decides to turn up they have one of the best forward in the league.

With the first leg at home we must build up a lead to take to Standford Bridge. These matches are usually cagey affairs but the way we have been playing lately I think we will go at them from the start and I think we can come away with a 2-0 win

I would go with this team....

             Reina
Arba - Skertl - Carra - Aurelio
Kuyt - Masch - Alonso - Riera
            Gerrard
            Torres

Never again!!!! :angry:  :D
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Postby GRAHAM01 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:55 pm

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Hedgehog wrote:Come on Barcelona!

:censored: that we have a second leg to go yet and we arn't out till it all done mate fecking come on lets feck over blackburn this weekend and put the manc scum under presure and then get it on for the second half

I can't see us winning the next leg, it's as good as finished.

no no no you must never say things like that

( i am sitting here with my hands over my ear going laaaa laaaa laaaa laaaa  :D  :D )
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Postby tonyeh » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:55 pm

Greavesie wrote:Tony, you are demonstrating you know sweet FA of what you're trying to argue

Well, that's a good argument. Well done.   :;):

Look, it's very simple. With man marking, you're given a man to pick up, or failing that you choose a man to mark on the fly.

With zonal marking, your given a zone to mark and watch whatever player (or players) enter that zone. Once they leave that zone, it becomes someone elses responsibility.

There are no garruntees with any system But, to me, man marking is the far superior system in that respect. Man for man. No "zones" involved.
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Postby Madmax » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:55 pm

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Madmax wrote:Another thing we missed macherano alot. Through central mid we got wasted.. I've got a feeling mannure will go out of the champs league aswel..

if it was to be so that we go out i would want an ars v bars final  :nod

yeah for real. would repeat 2006 final.. would prefer villareal or porto vs barca to be honest

no cos bars would feck ars over again and that would knock them for six again

see there is thought to the madness :laugh:

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Postby akumaface » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:55 pm

We need someone like Hypia as we had lost so many headers recently and not just in this game. We played so well recently and it is deem to have something like this happened tonight. All the rested players played shyte tonight. So, i guess resting player is overated....
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Postby tubby » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:56 pm

akumaface wrote:We need someone like Hypia as we had lost so many headers recently and not just in this game. We played so well recently and it is deem to have something like this happened tonight. All the rested players played shyte tonight. So, i guess resting player is overated....

He has no pace, he would have been just as easily ripped to bits. Should have started with Agger. Skrtel is :censored: overated maybe now people see that.
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Postby Santa » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:56 pm

GYBS wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
Greavesie wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
syma76 wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
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Gerrard30391 wrote:Lol..Explain why Zonal Marking hasn't cost us this tie? 2 goals from Zonal Marking? That to me means its failed?

Its 2 goals from poor defending, not 2 goals from zonal marking.

They should be marking their man. Not their fucking zone.

they should do exactly as instructed...bar zonal/man 2 man marking....our player just sit and watch chelsea player move on/off the ball...

Because they're marking a zone and not the player.

they're marking a player that enters their zone you tart

And when he leaves that zone to go on and score? Where's the Liverpool player?

That's right, still marking his zone.

whichever zone he goes into should pick him up - zonal marking has made us one of the best sides defensively - that is fact

with movement and players who knows how to attack the ball this system can be exploited with ease as it has been proven tonight...twice! It is not easy to pick up any particular player(s) who enters the zone when the ball is in play.

I'm not very tehnical but can't we employ a hybrid system whereby we assign man-to-man marking on their danger men?
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Postby tonyeh » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:56 pm

They're ripping apart "zonal marking" on RTE at the moment.
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Postby NANNY RED » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:57 pm

Im speechless really, nothing much to say about that performance apart from Chelsea were the far better side, Two many of our players never turned up tonight an ive cant find any explanation for that. We missed Masheranos bite an cleaning up so much in that midfield, There dust pan an brush was on top top form( Essian) . im gutted to actualy lose by that margin at Anfield. Very very hard for us in the replay .but i still live in hope.
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Postby whylongball? » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:57 pm

Lucas is not the best but lets not playing blaming game here. its Chelsea who got it right. Very good pressing game full of energy.
Two corners , two goals very shocking. And when was the last time we score from corners? Is that a problem Benitez?
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Postby GOAT » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:58 pm

Was waiting for the first backwards londoners to turn up
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Postby tonyeh » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:58 pm

lakes10 wrote:Bermenstein go and start next weeks tread now...and the weekends thread.

What happened to the plan that Bermenstein was to start every match thread from now on?
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Postby tubby » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:58 pm

lakes10 wrote:wonder how much its going to hurt us for the Blackburn game.

Yeah that's the thing. A bad home defeat seemingly set of a knock on effect for Utd so it could just as easily happen to us.
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Postby GRAHAM01 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:00 pm

IVANOVIC wrote:we'll show you a proper atmosphere next tuesday ey :p

why are they giving you free plastic flags again so we can hear they flap in the lifeless wind
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