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by **GYBS** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:45 pm

As yes - well they got a big 6 per cent pay rise this year mate

by **Lando_Griffin** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:46 pm

Judge wrote:lando - tax for lower paid have a more significant effect on their standard of living than does the tax taken from a highly paid person

eg: 10% tax from 12000 per year is worse than 10% off 80000 per year. crude example, but the principle is the same. im not sure what the levies are for the higher paid, but suffice to say they have a better living than those lower paid!! imo

Shouldn't a Nurse get paid more than a 9-5 Office worker, though?

by **Lando_Griffin** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:48 pm

Big Niall wrote:nurses, firemen etc know what the payscales are when they decide to train for those jobs. as soon as they get them they b!tch about how little they are paid and demand more. when the country has more money they get pay rises, when the country has less money they never take pay cuts.

Nurses are not saints, just people doing their job like everybody else and they rarely do anything beyond their exact job specification (even bringing water to patients sometimes) if it is beyond their unions rules.

The country has less money to spend now and therefore everybody on the payroll should get a pay cut or there should be people made redundant just like in the "real world" private sector.

As for their defined benefit pensions - don't get me started.

You're absolutely right Niall - let's lay off the already understaffed, over worked bobbies, Nurses and Firemen.

That'll make the World a better place... :no

by **Lando_Griffin** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:53 pm

Big Niall wrote:people in the public sector didn't buy houses or run up credit? ? they were demanding pay rises because of the house price increases and this helped fuel it further and leave the country with a higher running cost.

all professions have people that work hard. people in the public sector are no better than people in the private sector - you are not special.

people in the private sector are taking pay cuts or being made redundant.

you guys should feel the same recession pain everyone else has to.

Why should he?

The banks (private sector) were lending ridiculous amounts of money and estate agents (private sector) bumped house prices up and sat masturbating into their commission.

What are the public sector supposed to do? Live in sheds or tents, or apply for a massively inflated mortgage because it was the only way to buy a house thanks to the idiots?

Think before you type...

by **Judge** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:01 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Judge wrote:lando - tax for lower paid have a more significant effect on their standard of living than does the tax taken from a highly paid person

eg: 10% tax from 12000 per year is worse than 10% off 80000 per year. crude example, but the principle is the same. im not sure what the levies are for the higher paid, but suffice to say they have a better living than those lower paid!! imo

Shouldn't a Nurse get paid more than a 9-5 Office worker, though?

yes lando

by **Big Niall** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:14 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Big Niall wrote:people in the public sector didn't buy houses or run up credit? ? they were demanding pay rises because of the house price increases and this helped fuel it further and leave the country with a higher running cost.

all professions have people that work hard. people in the public sector are no better than people in the private sector - you are not special.

people in the private sector are taking pay cuts or being made redundant.

you guys should feel the same recession pain everyone else has to.

Why should he?

The banks (private sector) were lending ridiculous amounts of money and estate agents (private sector) bumped house prices up and sat masturbating into their commission.

What are the public sector supposed to do? Live in sheds or tents, or apply for a massively inflated mortgage because it was the only way to buy a house thanks to the idiots?

Think before you type...

going by your logic, the bus driver that drives children to school, the guy stacking shelves in the local shop (which feeds us), the guy working in the petrol station (that gets your car around) all deserve pay cuts but the public sector have some type of moral highground.

face up - the economy is much worse now than 2 years ago and as a result we should ALL be worse off now, balance the books, and slowly build up again in a few years time.

by **Big Niall** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:16 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Big Niall wrote:people in the public sector didn't buy houses or run up credit? ? they were demanding pay rises because of the house price increases and this helped fuel it further and leave the country with a higher running cost.

all professions have people that work hard. people in the public sector are no better than people in the private sector - you are not special.

people in the private sector are taking pay cuts or being made redundant.

you guys should feel the same recession pain everyone else has to.

Why should he?

The banks (private sector) were lending ridiculous amounts of money and estate agents (private sector) bumped house prices up and sat masturbating into their commission.

What are the public sector supposed to do? Live in sheds or tents, or apply for a massively inflated mortgage because it was the only way to buy a house thanks to the idiots?

Think before you type...

the ultimate fault lays with the political leaders who are public sector so using your genius argument, the public sector should get all the pain.

think before you type.

by **GYBS** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:04 pm

Big Niall wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
Big Niall wrote:people in the public sector didn't buy houses or run up credit? ? they were demanding pay rises because of the house price increases and this helped fuel it further and leave the country with a higher running cost.

all professions have people that work hard. people in the public sector are no better than people in the private sector - you are not special.

people in the private sector are taking pay cuts or being made redundant.

you guys should feel the same recession pain everyone else has to.

Why should he?

The banks (private sector) were lending ridiculous amounts of money and estate agents (private sector) bumped house prices up and sat masturbating into their commission.

What are the public sector supposed to do? Live in sheds or tents, or apply for a massively inflated mortgage because it was the only way to buy a house thanks to the idiots?

Think before you type...

going by your logic, the bus driver that drives children to school, the guy stacking shelves in the local shop (which feeds us), the guy working in the petrol station (that gets your car around) all deserve pay cuts but the public sector have some type of moral highground.

face up - the economy is much worse now than 2 years ago and as a result we should ALL be worse off now, balance the books, and slowly build up again in a few years time.

Get a grip - u you cant compare military people to bus drivers and bloody petrol station workers ffs . you obviously have a with the military and noticed it many time on here . I should not have to take a pay cut because the banks fuc ked up royally and the big boys in the private sector just kept taking in the money - i earnt my pay rise and fu cking well deserve it for the work i have done . you come back and tell me when bus drivers do 100 hours a week in shi te conditions with sh ite equipment to protect themselves - all the whole while trying to make this world a safer place just so that idiots like you can tell us to take a pay cut just so we can help the country out of the sh it that the private sector put us in in the first place - FU CK RIGHT OFF SUNSHINE

by **Big Niall** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:30 pm

hey buddy, you have a chip on your shoulder about the private sector. the majority of people in the country work in the private sector. do you think we are all big shots with loads of money??

in fact, statistics show the average private sector gets paid less than the average public sector.

I agree the bankers deserve to be hammered but they only make up a tiny percentage of the population.

by **Number 9** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:37 pm

Big Niall wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
Big Niall wrote:people in the public sector didn't buy houses or run up credit? ? they were demanding pay rises because of the house price increases and this helped fuel it further and leave the country with a higher running cost.

all professions have people that work hard. people in the public sector are no better than people in the private sector - you are not special.

people in the private sector are taking pay cuts or being made redundant.

you guys should feel the same recession pain everyone else has to.

Why should he?

The banks (private sector) were lending ridiculous amounts of money and estate agents (private sector) bumped house prices up and sat masturbating into their commission.

What are the public sector supposed to do? Live in sheds or tents, or apply for a massively inflated mortgage because it was the only way to buy a house thanks to the idiots?

Think before you type...

the ultimate fault lays with the political leaders who are public sector so using your genius argument, the public sector should get all the pain.

think before you type.

Well I never voted..never did since we had peace here!
Did you?Do you?
Its Ok saying we blame the politicians but there are millions of clowns out there that elect these w@nkers into government.For what its worth I think you are right and governments have done and do let people down.
When you cut the frills off it and look from a realistic point of view.Take away the fact that we elect idiots,keep the fact that if we did not elect that idiot it would be another idiot in his/her shoes and all you are left with is a gap in classes!
There is not a lot that has changed since medieval times in Britain or the UK politically .It was brutally enforced then that the rich would rule the poor,the difference now is only that they dont drive wedges down an iron shoe,nor make a goat lick your foot or put you on a rack for asking why they do what they do.You ask a question and they send you a 34 page letter answering why..Id rather have the fuc'king rack!
Anyway my point being..unless you are rich you basically have to walk the line!
Shi'te but true!

by **GYBS** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:00 pm

Big Niall wrote:hey buddy, you have a chip on your shoulder about the private sector. the majority of people in the country work in the private sector. do you think we are all big shots with loads of money??

in fact, statistics show the average private sector gets paid less than the average public sector.

I agree the bankers deserve to be hammered but they only make up a tiny percentage of the population.

no chip on shoulder here - have a chip with someone saying that i should take a pay cut to bail out this country from the shi te it has put itself in and saying i dont deserve my pay rise , when that person cant even comprehend what i have to do

by **Big Niall** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:07 pm

but I'm also acknowledging that I should get a pay cut - there isn't as much money as there was.

by **GYBS** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:11 pm

you take a pay cut - i would rather not thanks.

by **Number 9** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:15 pm

Big Niall wrote:but I'm also acknowledging that I should get a pay cut - there isn't as much money as there was.

What do you work as/at Niall?

by **Dundalk** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:16 pm

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