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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:16 pm

lakes10 wrote:I lost a good friend on that day and her face was posted all over the papers (and i am still not sure if she was alive or dead in the photos) that was the last time i saw her and that stays with you.

i was only 10 at the time but i remember those AWFUL photos those rags used on their covers. Even now i hope i never see those images again/  :(
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Postby redhayesy » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:31 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
lakes10 wrote:I lost a good friend on that day and her face was posted all over the papers (and i am still not sure if she was alive or dead in the photos) that was the last time i saw her and that stays with you.

i was only 10 at the time but i remember those AWFUL photos those rags used on their covers. Even now i hope i never see those images again/  :(

well remember mate, it's also about educating people every day about what happened & why i still to this day & will always educate people who I  meet in life along the way- DON'T BUY THE S*N.
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Postby redbeergoggles » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:53 pm

LegBarnes wrote:
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destro wrote:
heimdall wrote:What is needed is not attacking an LFC fan who posts a link but just have a quiet word in their ear, I'm sure that when they are told the truth they will be ashamed enough.

I have been reading the comments made since my post and since I was the one who posted it and bearing in mind that it actually kick started a new thread regarding the paper in question I felt the right to reply, so here goes.


I am fully aware of how the newspaper in question is regarded. Do I feel ashamed because I heard a story on the T.V and then found and posted the story on here ? No.

I do not buy or read the paper in question and haven't since THAT day, it was a story that I thought some might find interesting as it was about Raffa.

I thought it was topical but since no one but Sabre actually commented on the story itself and would much prefer to call for my head for posting it then I was obviously wrong and for that I apologize.

I didn't recommend people go out and buy the paper, and just because they lied in the past does not make every story they print since lies.

And as not to fan the flames of this anymore than they have been already thats all I have to say about it.

Don't worrie some people on here like to go way over the top about things we are all sad about that day but taking things to the extreme is not right way to go.

Its all swings and round abouts on here some posters have jokes about people with cancer then next min saying RIP to drummer who died from it.

:no thats disgraceful.

Can one of the Mods lock this thread now ? ,the response Ive quoted should be reason enough ,it highlights in the extreme the ignorance that is still yet to rear its ugly head  .Passions run high on such issues as Hillsborough ,and this thread will seriously run close to a new low  :no

what don't you like about what I said ? maybe there is some truth in it ?

surely not.

Or maybe ?

End of day I really think you need just to leave others b and let them debate what they want to it is a debate center this its what a forum is for.

If I really have to answer that for you fella ,then its obvious my reply would be wasted
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Postby lakes10 » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:10 pm

here is a bit of strange info for you from my book of stats from 2007/08 (no its not made by radio five live lol)

Liverpool has the third highest take up rates of the S*N'S holiday offer, first is Leeds and then london




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Postby redhayesy » Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:14 pm

redbeergoggles wrote:That rag that disguises itself as a relevant publication, is a veritable dinosaur that should now be obselete in todays society ,it took its journalistic license to the extreme with an intrusion into the grief of thousands .
In Liverpool that paper was vetoed indefinitely ,it deserves no reprieve or any utterance of its reviled name on Scouse lips ,we all know someone who perished that fateful day ,in the cold stare of ignorance and ineptitude  ,and the authorities  abject denial  to accept the blame ,so it is why I can say most emphatically that odious rag will never be forgiven by the people of Liverpool .
Hillsborough and the incompetence it was surrounded in murdered  our people ,the S*n  crucified them for fun :angry:

also mate what sums up the feelings for me was in steven gerrard's autobiography when he said he tells the foreign lads who don't understand. they have head of the hillsborough disaster, but don't know the full story. he fills them in etc. sg explains that there was a lot of anger over what got written after hillsborough,which is why the worst offender, the s*n newspaper,will never be seen at melwood,anfield or in his house.

every Liverpool fan is completely against the s*n (or should be)(RH) i'm a Liverpool supporter so i respect their views,& i also lost a member of my family at hillsborough. i won't touch the paper. the foreign players are very respectful.

speaks volumes for me, i will always dispise everything & everyone connected to the s*n end of.
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Postby lakes10 » Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:10 pm

redhayesy wrote:
redbeergoggles wrote:That rag that disguises itself as a relevant publication, is a veritable dinosaur that should now be obselete in todays society ,it took its journalistic license to the extreme with an intrusion into the grief of thousands .
In Liverpool that paper was vetoed indefinitely ,it deserves no reprieve or any utterance of its reviled name on Scouse lips ,we all know someone who perished that fateful day ,in the cold stare of ignorance and ineptitude  ,and the authorities  abject denial  to accept the blame ,so it is why I can say most emphatically that odious rag will never be forgiven by the people of Liverpool .
Hillsborough and the incompetence it was surrounded in murdered  our people ,the S*n  crucified them for fun :angry:

also mate what sums up the feelings for me was in steven gerrard's autobiography when he said he tells the foreign lads who don't understand. they have head of the hillsborough disaster, but don't know the full story. he fills them in etc. sg explains that there was a lot of anger over what got written after hillsborough,which is why the worst offender, the s*n newspaper,will never be seen at melwood,anfield or in his house.

every Liverpool fan is completely against the s*n (or should be)(RH) i'm a Liverpool supporter so i respect their views,& i also lost a member of my family at hillsborough. i won't touch the paper. the foreign players are very respectful.

speaks volumes for me, i will always dispise everything & everyone connected to the s*n end of.

so you dont have Sky TV, The Times, never look up New York Post. next have tv shows by the Fox Network you dont use My Space.
you dont use  GameSpy, GameStats, Rotten Tomatoes and AskMen. (all part of IGN)

IF YOU USE ANY OF THEM THEN YOUR ARE PUTING MONEY INTO THE S*N, as they are all part of Rupert Murdoch.
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Postby redhayesy » Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:56 pm

NO mate i dont subscribe to sky tv or anything else connected to the s*n or RM so please don't patronise me, as for many of the above i don't even know who or what they are!

also beleive it or not i very rarely buy a newspaper cause after hillsborough iv'e no faith in any rag, if i do buy a paper it is only useally on a sunday, prob the independant if thats ok.

look mate i understand that there are so called LFC fans out there that controdict themselves over the issue you raise, & i totally agree with you but please dont think i'm a survivor without knowledge.

please mate let's agree that the message needs to be broadcast everyday DON'T BUY THE S*N!
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Postby dawson99 » Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:09 pm

redhayesy wrote:please mate let's agree that the message needs to be broadcast everyday DON'T BUY THE S*N!

Thats the only important part to this discussion the way things are going.

Be like me, just buy the racing post and Empire magazine  :buttrock
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Postby lakes10 » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:42 pm

redhayesy wrote:NO mate i dont subscribe to sky tv or anything else connected to the s*n or RM so please don't patronise me, as for many of the above i don't even know who or what they are!

also beleive it or not i very rarely buy a newspaper cause after hillsborough iv'e no faith in any rag, if i do buy a paper it is only useally on a sunday, prob the independant if thats ok.

look mate i understand that there are so called LFC fans out there that controdict themselves over the issue you raise, & i totally agree with you but please dont think i'm a survivor without knowledge.

please mate let's agree that the message needs to be broadcast everyday DON'T BUY THE S*N!

I do agree dont buy the S*n but as the same time i still know its a new source.

I know how strong you feel and not watching shows like

The Simpsons
Prison Break
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
24
American Dad
Bones
Cops
Dollhouse
Family Guy
King of the Hill

just shows how strong you feel as they are made with money from RM.

How do you get your sports news?.

I must admit i respect your view in not having nothing to do with RB and not putting money into pocket.
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Postby redhayesy » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:32 pm

thanks mate, & please realise i meant no offence towards you either.

i sincerly don't don't watch any of the programmes you mention, as they are not my kind of choice for what ever content they may be in, as it must be somthing to do with my age!
a different generation or whatever, they ain't my cup of tea, not being funny mate but i haven't even heard of some of them.

as for where do i get my sports news from, either LFC TV as i'm mainly only concerned about us, but keep up to date when needed with setanta sports news- as far as my research has given me it has nothing to do with RM. (hope i'm right with that research) also as i say mate i very rarely buy a paper,cause most are full of bu11sh1t etc. (i know setanta is pritty sh1t also,but if i need to watch for team news on oppo teams we play etc then that's what i need to keep up to date.)

i vow mate never to assoiciate myself with anything that is connected with RM or his fecking bu11sh1t so called empire.
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Postby GYBS » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:32 am

A good thing the s*n does do thou is the help for the heroes stuff for the guys in the military and all the fund raising they help sponser.

And no im not sticking up for them as i myself dont read it .
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Postby crazyhorse » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:54 am

I detest the Sun newspaper, and will not buy it, read it or have it in my house....There are many reasons for this, the main one being the disgusting filthy headline they put on their front page all those years ago but also becasue I grew up poor under Thatcher and the Sun backed her, and because my dad went on strike in the 80s (he was a train driver) and we got bricks through our windows becasue of that rag.

There was a period when tabloid newspapers would print anything to dramatise and sell themselves, and the Sun was the worst of that group. Tabloids became a parody of life and never printed real news, but crappy stories about nothing and they did not care if it was true or not or who was hurt or libled.

It is very very easy to hold on to the hate that the Sun has earned from every person connected with Liverpool football club. But I no longer shun the rag becasue of what it has done, I dont read it becasue it is Kack and is not worth reading. I have appreciated the numerous apologies that have been printed over the years and in a way have forgiven them, but at the same time I will never forget.

However I do see some of the posts on here as just as hateful and pathetic as those printed in the Sun. We have to be better than that. Its ok to hate them, but we have to display dignity and respect the memory of the 96 in the right way. Swearing and insulting achieves nothing and just makes us look stupid and ignorant.

For the families and friends of the 96 however it is a different story. I did not lose anyone close to me that day so cannot understand what they feel or are going through.
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