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Postby El Nino_#9 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:23 pm

heard degen was booed when he went off by some of our own supporters... disappointing if that is the case. its not like he is trying to get injured!
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Postby GYBS » Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:24 pm

Some of our supporters are getting really bad with all this booing of players , quite pathetic reallly
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:54 pm

DEGEN INJURED AS RESERVES DRAW
Jimmy Rice at the Halliwell Jones Stadium 12 March 2009 
  Philipp Degen limped off after scoring as Liverpool Reserves drew 2-2 with Manchester United on Thursday night. 
The Swiss international netted just four minutes into his comeback but didn't last the half.
 
Gary Ablett's side then had to come from behind through Daniel Pacheco to earn a point from an entertaining game at the Halliwell Jones Stadium in Warrington.
 
Liverpool can take heart from the fact Ole Gunnar Solksejar named a strong XI including Tomasz Kuszczak and Daniel Welbeck, who started the Carling Cup final. There was another familiar face at full-back in Fabio Da Silva - twin brother of the impressive Rafael.
 
It all started so well for Degen, who scored his first goal in English football before either side had settled. It came after a hoof from Mikel San Jose which Kuszczak and Robert Brady looked to have covered. Both failed to take responsibility, allowing the defender to rob the ball and roll into an empty net.
 
There was another shaky moment for the visitors minutes later when Pacheco was almost gifted a second, prompting Fabio to bawl at his goalkeeper.
 
So far, so good - but events were about to take a downward turn.
 
First, with 20 minutes on the clock, an equaliser. It came when Welbeck latched onto a superb throughball before lobbing Dean Bouzanis. Impressive stuff.
 
Celebratory cheers from the United fans soon faded into groans of frustration from the Liverpool ranks as, just 24 minutes into his return, Degen hobbled towards the bench to be replaced by Ryan Crowther.
 
United were pressing for a second, and it took a far post clearance from Emmanuel Mendy to thwart them. It finally did arrive on 36 minutes when Lee Martin sent Fabio one-on-one with Bouzanis. The Brazilian showed the kind of composure that could see him join his brother in United's senior ranks.
 
Things were about to get even worse for Ablett as half-time loomed when Brazilian starlet Victor Flora followed Degen into the treatment room. He was replaced by Jay Spearing, named among the substitutes after an endearing cameo against Real Madrid.
 
The Wirral-born midfielder took centre stage in a Liverpool revival after the restart, though it was Vincent Weijl who supplied the pass for Pacheco to tuck beyond the reach of Kuszczak to level on 49 minutes.
 
Spearing displayed all his talents as the Reds searched for a winner, first when he picked out Weijl in the box, then with a beautiful ball to Crowther down the right. Sadly both moves broke down after the 20-year-old played his part.
 
United were threatening less but Martin Kelly and San Jose had to be smart to stop Martin after Welbeck bypassed the Reds midfield with an overhead pass.
 
Pacheco showed nice feet to create a scoring opportunity for Palsson down the other end but again the chance went begging.
 
Captain for the night Kelly decided to take matters into his own hands, charging 60 yards down field a la Alan Hansen only to have his shot blocked.
 
Pacheco came close from a dead ball 25 yards from goal but United saw the game out.
 
Liverpoolfc.tv: man of the match: Jay Spearing.
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Postby bunglemark2 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:00 pm

s@int wrote:DEGEN INJURED AS RESERVES DRAW
Jimmy Rice at the Halliwell Jones Stadium 12 March 2009 
  Philipp Degen limped off after scoring as Liverpool Reserves drew 2-2 with Manchester United on Thursday night. 
The Swiss international netted just four minutes into his comeback but didn't last the half.
 
Gary Ablett's side then had to come from behind through Daniel Pacheco to earn a point from an entertaining game at the Halliwell Jones Stadium in Warrington.
 
Liverpool can take heart from the fact Ole Gunnar Solksejar named a strong XI including Tomasz Kuszczak and Daniel Welbeck, who started the Carling Cup final. There was another familiar face at full-back in Fabio Da Silva - twin brother of the impressive Rafael.
 
It all started so well for Degen, who scored his first goal in English football before either side had settled. It came after a hoof from Mikel San Jose which Kuszczak and Robert Brady looked to have covered. Both failed to take responsibility, allowing the defender to rob the ball and roll into an empty net.
 
There was another shaky moment for the visitors minutes later when Pacheco was almost gifted a second, prompting Fabio to bawl at his goalkeeper.
 
So far, so good - but events were about to take a downward turn.
 
First, with 20 minutes on the clock, an equaliser. It came when Welbeck latched onto a superb throughball before lobbing Dean Bouzanis. Impressive stuff.
 
Celebratory cheers from the United fans soon faded into groans of frustration from the Liverpool ranks as, just 24 minutes into his return, Degen hobbled towards the bench to be replaced by Ryan Crowther.
 
United were pressing for a second, and it took a far post clearance from Emmanuel Mendy to thwart them. It finally did arrive on 36 minutes when Lee Martin sent Fabio one-on-one with Bouzanis. The Brazilian showed the kind of composure that could see him join his brother in United's senior ranks.
 
Things were about to get even worse for Ablett as half-time loomed when Brazilian starlet Victor Flora followed Degen into the treatment room. He was replaced by Jay Spearing, named among the substitutes after an endearing cameo against Real Madrid.
 
The Wirral-born midfielder took centre stage in a Liverpool revival after the restart, though it was Vincent Weijl who supplied the pass for Pacheco to tuck beyond the reach of Kuszczak to level on 49 minutes.
 
Spearing displayed all his talents as the Reds searched for a winner, first when he picked out Weijl in the box, then with a beautiful ball to Crowther down the right. Sadly both moves broke down after the 20-year-old played his part.
 
United were threatening less but Martin Kelly and San Jose had to be smart to stop Martin after Welbeck bypassed the Reds midfield with an overhead pass.
 
Pacheco showed nice feet to create a scoring opportunity for Palsson down the other end but again the chance went begging.
 
Captain for the night Kelly decided to take matters into his own hands, charging 60 yards down field a la Alan Hansen only to have his shot blocked.
 
Pacheco came close from a dead ball 25 yards from goal but United saw the game out.
 
Liverpoolfc.tv: man of the match: Jay Spearing.

Mate, I just started a topic on this....can't see how Spearing was MOTM when he only came on in the second half (I think...) - he didn't start anyway...I wouldv'e given it to Kelly or the Spanish lad at centre half, captain for the night, I forget his name right now...
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Postby tubby » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:36 pm

Are we likley to see Spearing play again in the 1st team this season?
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Postby JoeTerp » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:41 pm

Commentator gave teh MOTM to San Jose. Although Spearing did turn the game on its head when he came on before half time
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Postby JoeTerp » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:43 pm

bavlondon wrote:Are we likley to see Spearing play again in the 1st team this season?

I would think we would see him a lot in the final league games of the season
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Postby NANNY RED » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:33 am

s@int wrote:2-2 so far in the reserves match against the mancs. Degen got our first, before having to go off with an injury.

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Postby Ciggy » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:55 am

I hope this Degen chap is on a pay as you play contract cause lets face it he even breaks an eyelash when he gets a wash, what a disaster how did he pass a medical?
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Postby RedRoots » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:44 am

On the subject of degan, reminds me of that interview with Carra where he said the team were on a night out and he seen Degan up dancing and was surprised he didn't injure himself. :D
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Postby Bam » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:06 am

RedRoots wrote:On the subject of degan, reminds me of that interview with Carra where he said the team were on a night out and he seen Degan up dancing and was surprised he didn't injure himself. :D

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Postby Judge » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:49 am

Ciggy wrote:I hope this Degen chap is on a pay as you play contract cause lets face it he even breaks an eyelash when he gets a wash, what a disaster how did he pass a medical?

he got told to just stand there on 2 feet, until he was asked to stand on 1 leg - then he fell over
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Postby GRAHAM01 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:29 am

Judge wrote:
Ciggy wrote:I hope this Degen chap is on a pay as you play contract cause lets face it he even breaks an eyelash when he gets a wash, what a disaster how did he pass a medical?

he got told to just stand there on 2 feet, until he was asked to stand on 1 leg - then he fell over

don't laugh! it wasn't funny  :veryangry  he broke 6 bones in that fall  :D 

we signed him up as they knew kewell was going and needed someone to stay in the dressing room with the valuables on match day
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Postby Owzat » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:49 am

While we may be on for a double over the mancs, our record has not been great :-

PREMIERSHIP

Home : P17 W5 D3 L9 F23 A25 PTS 18 (Won 29.41%)
Away : P16 W3 D4 L9 F10 A24 PTS 13 (Won 18.75%)
H&A : P33 W8 D7 L18 F33 A49 PTS 31 (Won 24.24%)

RAFA (PREMIERSHIP)

Home : P5 W1 D1 L3 F2 A4 PTS 4 (Won 20.00%)
Away : P4 W0 D0 L4 F1 A8 PTS 0 (Won 0.00%)
H&A : P9 W1 D1 L7 F3 A12 PTS 4 (Won 11.11%)

LAST FIVE AWAY (PREMIERSHIP)

P5 W1 D0 L4 F2 A8 PTS 3 (Won 20.00%)


Hoping for a miracle, our three Premiership wins at old trafford are :

24/04/04 Man Utd 0-1 Liverpool
22/01/02 Man Utd 0-1 Liverpool
17/12/00 Man Utd 1-3 Liverpool

MARCH ON?

We've played Man Utd EIGHT times in March since the Premiership began : P8 W3 D1 L4 F8 A8. Three were away from home, two defeats and a draw, and one a Cup final. None were played on the 14th, closest is 19/03/95 when we won 2-0 (at Anfield)
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Postby Owzat » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:51 am

El Nino_#9 wrote:heard degen was booed when he went off by some of our own supporters... disappointing if that is the case. its not like he is trying to get injured!

Just happens to be all he is capable of.
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