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by **account deleted by request** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:53 pm

1. Sir Alex Ferguson

(East Stirlingshire, St Mirren, Aberdeen, Scotland, Manchester United)
Why? - Sir Alex Ferguson is the most successful manager in British football history. Replaced Ron Atkinson as United's manager on November 6, 1986. Has won 10 Premier League titles, five FA cups, three League Cups and two Champions Leagues. Won the Cup Winners' Cup with both Aberdeen and Man Utd.

Favourite quote - After winning the Champions League in 1999: 'I can't believe it. I can't believe it. Football. Bloody hell.'

2. Bob Paisley(Liverpool)

Why? - Served Liverpool for 44 years. As manager, between 1974 and 1983, he won six league titles, three European Cups, one UEFA Cup and three League Cups.

Favourite quote - 'If you're in the penalty area and aren't sure what to do with the ball, just stick it in the net, and we'll discuss your options afterwards.'

3. Bill Shankly (Liverpool)

(Carlisle, Grimsby, Workington, Huddersfield, Liverpool)
Why? - Manager of Liverpool between 1959 and 1974. The club won three league titles, two FA Cups and the UEFA Cup under Shankly. Retired after winning the 1974 FA Cup Final.

Favourite quote - 'If you are first, you are first. If you are second you are nothing.'

4. Sir Matt Busby(Manchester United)

Why? - Played for both Man City and Liverpool as a player. Manager of United for 24 years from 1945 to 1969. Rebuilt team after the Munich air crash. Won the European Cup.

Favourite quote - On George Best: 'It was a very simple team talk. All I used to say was: Whenever possible, give the ball to George.'

5. Brian Clough (Notts Forest)

(Hartlepool, Derby, Brighton, Leeds, Nottingham Forest)
Why? - Most well known for his success as manager of both Derby County and Nottingham Forest. Won the European Cup twice as manager of Forest. Clough won the League with both Derby and Forest. The Forest title win was in his first season after promotion.

Favourite quote - 'I wouldn't say I was the best manager in the business. But I was certainly in the top one.'

6. Jock Stein(Dunfermline, Hibernian, Celtic, Leeds, Scotland)

Why? - Most well known from his time as manager of Celtic from 1965 to 1978. Guided Celtic to European Cup success in 1967. Lead Celtic to nine-in-a-row league titles from 1966 to 1974.

Favourite quote - After winning European Cup: 'We did it by playing football. Pure, beautiful, inventive football.'

7. Sir Alf Ramsey(Ipswich, England, Birmingham)

Why? - Guided England to World Cup success in 1966.

Favourite quote - Before the World Cup final: 'You've beaten them once. Now go out and bloody beat them again.'
8. Arsene Wenger(Nancy, Monaco, Grampus Eight, Arsenal)

Why? - Manager of Arsenal since 1996. Has won three League titles, four FA Cups and four Community Shields during this period, including League and Cup 'doubles' in 1998 and 2002. Arsenal went unbeaten for a whole season under his management.

Favourite quote - 'You cannot say that you are happy when you don't win.'

9. Bill Nicholson(Tottenham Hotspur)

Why? - Manager of Spurs between 1958 and 1974. Beat Everton 10-4 in his first game in charge. Won league and cup double in 1960/61. First manager to win a European trophy with a British club - the European Cup Winners Cup.

Favourite quote - 'Any player coming here must be dedicated to the game and to the club. He must never be satisfied with his last performance and he must hate losing.'

10. Jose Mourinho(Benfica, Leiria, Porto, Chelsea, Inter Milan)

Why? - Didn't lose a single home match whilst in charge of Chelsea. Won the Premier League with Chelsea in 2005 and 2006.

Favourite quote: 'There is no pressure at the top. The pressure's being second or third.'

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I was very surprised that Kenny wasn't in the list , to win the league with Liverpool twice should surely be enough, without mentioning he managed to do it again with Blackburn.

Paisley or Ferguson for top spot ? I would have gone for Paisley myself as he did more with less in much less time.

by **bigmick** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:16 pm

Yes I think Dalglish definately deserves to be in there S@int I agree. Other than that, although I'd have moved one or two people down the bottom up a bit it's a fair enough list. No other obvious omissions.

by **NANNY RED** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:55 pm

I really cant believe that they keep putting the drunk before Paisley the mentality of some actualy staggers me sometimes,

An id ive Kenny in there an all above Mourinio, jib him

by **112-1077774096** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:11 am

why is busby above clough

by **heimdall** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:15 am

NANNY RED wrote:I really cant believe that they keep putting the drunk before Paisley the mentality of some actualy staggers me sometimes,

An id ive Kenny in there an all above Mourinio, jib him

Kenny was a great manager, no question about that but for Maureen to come in and win in his first season in the premiership was a hell of an acheivement. I think the the list if pretty much spot on.
I wonder what Rafa needs to do to make the list?

by **The_Rock** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:02 am

Jesus Christ.......... Mourinho is on that list...but no Benitez ?

This is a conspiracy...i tell ya. A huge conspiracy ........ Benitez is the best manager in the world.........

On serious note....yeah Kenny should be in the list. He did win the league with 2 different teams...

by **The_Rock** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:55 am

heimdall wrote:I wonder what Rafa needs to do to make the list?

Top of my head ....

1)Win the premier league

2)Be a team-player type of manager... (ie...doesn't cut of his nose to spit his face when the CEO signs players like Crouch, Bellamy, Pennant, Agger, Keane, Babel...etc).

3)Signs players who are suited to the english league (Strong, Pacy players with good 1st touch).

4)Buys quality instead of quantity (Makes use of the millions he get every season to buy 1st team players to improve the team... Not to load the squad with average players).

5)Doesn't bite the hand the feeds him (ie....don't do interviews that puts the club in a bad light...don't make use of his "friends" to pass inaccurate news of clubs being interested to sign him and put himself above the club)

6)Great Man-mangement skills ..what differentiates a manager from a run of a mill coach is that he has to have this.... He has to have this trait. Players must give their 100% every match for their manager.

7)A good media personality - .He has to give awesome interviews & Quotes...Yapping to the press in monotonous voice which puts a caffin-loaded person to sleep is a strict 'NO-NO'. ......

by **account deleted by request** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:09 am

Dalglish was actually at NUMBER 16 WTF?

Rafa was at NUMBER 24

by **NiftyNeil** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:20 am

peewee wrote:why is busby above clough

Because he played for Liverpool.

by **taff** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:43 am

Cant believe they voted for Ferguson as all he did was take over when a big club was in turmoil and didnt win the league for 9 years and only got a second rate european trophy. And all he did was get success at a smaller club in a league dominated by two huge clubs as a previous job.

That scottish fool is just lucky that Captain Marvel Robson was there

by **112-1077774096** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:46 am

NiftyNeil wrote:
peewee wrote:why is busby above clough

Because he played for Liverpool.

by **LegBarnes** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:45 am

No rafa in the top 10 list then.

so he ain't that good. :laugh:

by **Madmax** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:33 am

Tops two just stand out from all the rest. I would have put paisley first but who gives a feck about my view.. Red nosed fergies achievments is just a brill fecking his built some fab side in the last 20 years............... W@anker!!!

by **Owzat** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:43 am

s@int wrote:I was very surprised that Kenny wasn't in the list , to win the league with Liverpool twice should surely be enough, without mentioning he managed to do it again with Blackburn.

Paisley or Ferguson for top spot ? I would have gone for Paisley myself as he did more with less in much less time.

re Kenny - I suspect it's to do with European trophies, not that he could have won any while manager of Liverpool. Sir Alf is the exception. Isn't there a saying that the sign of a 'big club' or 'great manager' is to have won the European Cup? Whatever the source is for that top ten has probably narrowed their list down by including winners domestically and of European trophies, plus the one great England manager (also won the old 1st division with Ipswich)

re why fergie ahead of Sir Bob - volume, sheer volume. The problem with that is most managers win everything there is to win and move on, helps to a degree with continuity (unless it's Souness next........), but fergie never got bored with the one trick routine of winning the Premiership, the domestic double and his neverending quest for the Champions League - two in his time in charge is not that special. I agree that more achieved in a short space of time is more impressive, but if you ask most people they'll know fergie has won more and it kills most debates on that kind of subject.

by **Sir Roger** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:24 am

The_Rock wrote:
heimdall wrote:I wonder what Rafa needs to do to make the list?

Top of my head ....

1)Win the premier league

2)Be a team-player type of manager... (ie...doesn't cut of his nose to spit his face when the CEO signs players like Crouch, Bellamy, Pennant, Agger, Keane, Babel...etc).

3)Signs players who are suited to the english league (Strong, Pacy players with good 1st touch).

4)Buys quality instead of quantity (Makes use of the millions he get every season to buy 1st team players to improve the team... Not to load the squad with average players).

5)Doesn't bite the hand the feeds him (ie....don't do interviews that puts the club in a bad light...don't make use of his "friends" to pass inaccurate news of clubs being interested to sign him and put himself above the club)

6)Great Man-mangement skills ..what differentiates a manager from a run of a mill coach is that he has to have this.... He has to have this trait. Players must give their 100% every match for their manager.

7)A good media personality - .He has to give awesome interviews & Quotes...Yapping to the press in monotonous voice which puts a caffin-loaded person to sleep is a strict 'NO-NO'. ......

Are you saying Rafa has none of these qualities?

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