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Postby account deleted by request » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:34 pm

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Ciggy wrote:Worst performance of the season, our fringe players are not good enough, and its obvious they put everything into the madrid game and had nothing left. i am not as angry as last week because last week I think we all know it was then we lost our title chance.

We have no strength beyond our first 11 full stop.

Is the best post on this thread.

100% correct. Our first 11 on their day is as good as any in the league, but outside that, things are thin. Our bench today proved it. In fact, having El Zahr on the pitch proved it. We need a gluttony of signings in the summer of quality. Do we have the money for it? I don't think so. We may have to settle for two really high class signings and some better quality squad players. Some players will have to be sold off, and I expect players like Lucas, Benayoun, Babel and several fringe players to exit. Honestly, it doesn't matter if the manager is replaced. It won't change the situation for us. In fact, I can only see it worsening if that happens. If Benitez really has maintained that he wanted more control of signings, then lets see if his word is true. If he signs a few lesser unknowns and squad fillers again, well, then I'd advocate that he leaves because he will no longer have this leaning stick of an excuse to fall back upon.

Good post with a lot of truths

Good post ..... you just forgot to mention who's fault it is that the squad is so weak and who bought all the poor players that fill it.

And before you say it , no it wasn't Parry :D

I dont think they were all Rafas first choice signings either mate. And if you want to get Parry in it, maybe if him and that other snake Moores hadnt have gotten the yanks invovled we might have had owners who WOULD have let Rafa get all his first choice signings.

Rafa has spent over £100 million in the last two years, I don't think anyone can complain about how much money he has had.

Net spend? He has had to recoup a lot mate and most of the time can only spend big on 1 player max and has to dish out the rest over the whole squad. Not the same as say Fergie spening 30Mil on 2 strikers, 18Mil on a midfielder, 30 mil on a defender....not the same by a mile.


Net Spend 04 - 09 Purchased Sold Nett Per Season
1 Chelsea £221,450,000 £90,300,000 £131,150,000 £26,230,000 
2 Manchester City £171,020,000 £49,900,000 £121,120,000 £24,224,000 
3 Liverpool £215,490,000 £98,030,000 £117,460,000 £23,492,000 
4 Tottenham £230,800,000 £137,250,000 £93,550,000 £18,710,000 
5 Manchester United £169,350,000 £76,050,000 £93,300,000 £18,660,000 
6 Aston Villa £95,150,000 £21,255,000 £73,895,000 £14,779,000 
9 Sunderland £80,580,000 £11,650,000 £68,930,000 £13,786,000 
7 Newcastle £120,750,000 £83,400,000 £37,350,000 £7,470,000 
8 Middlesborough £62,200,000 £32,500,000 £29,700,000 £5,940,000 
10 Everton £80,100,000 £54,200,000 £25,900,000 £5,180,000 
12 Arsenal £102,050,000 £81,720,000 £20,330,000 £4,066,000 
11 West Ham £75,145,000 £61,625,000 £13,520,000 £2,704,000 
13 Portsmouth £77,700,000 £71,010,000 £6,690,000 £1,338,000 
14 Blackburn Rovers £36,100,000 £36,290,000 -£190,000 -£38,000



As you can see even on NET SPENDS , he has STILL spent more than the mancs.

Thats not possible mate I dont know how those figures have been put together.

Link to transfer league, just scroll down

You can always check them at LFC HISTORY
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Postby Toffeehater » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:34 pm

maguskwt wrote:whenever the results don't go our way, the hounds come out on this forum... feckin joke...

I've been here all season , praised him when he's got it right , and feel i can condemn him when he's got it wrong
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Postby tubby » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:34 pm

Dont blame him.
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Postby Greavesie » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:35 pm

i feel awful for the lad PeeWee
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Postby Greavesie » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:36 pm

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maguskwt wrote:whenever the results don't go our way, the hounds come out on this forum... feckin joke...

I've been here all season , praised him when he's got it right , and feel i can condemn him when he's got it wrong

supporting Newcastle may be better suited mate
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Postby REDTILLDEAD » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:36 pm

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i think this guys patience will be wearing thin

Along with the rest of us lad!. :nod
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Postby Toffeehater » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:36 pm

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i think this guys patience will be wearing thin

Class player deserves a league title medal before he retires , won't blame him if he wants to leave but i doubt he ever will .


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Postby zarababe » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:37 pm

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*_Ruthless_* wrote:Lets have a laugh at Rafa..

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.......i have been laughing all seson!....no doubt the "in rafa we trust brigade" will argue otherwise?...but its been staring everyone in the face (those who dont wear "rose tinted glasses") that rafa aint got what it takes to bring the title back to anfield. I say "fukk off parry....take Rafa with you"!. :buttrock

Was you laughing at rafa on wednesday night?

:D bet they were cryin doll
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Postby Toffeehater » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:37 pm

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maguskwt wrote:whenever the results don't go our way, the hounds come out on this forum... feckin joke...

I've been here all season , praised him when he's got it right , and feel i can condemn him when he's got it wrong

supporting Newcastle may be better suited mate

:laugh: , don't tell me who i should support and should not . Take your rose tinted glasses off mate , rafa can't keep living on that 1 night in istanbul
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Postby tubby » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:38 pm

s@int wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
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Dundalk wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Worst performance of the season, our fringe players are not good enough, and its obvious they put everything into the madrid game and had nothing left. i am not as angry as last week because last week I think we all know it was then we lost our title chance.

We have no strength beyond our first 11 full stop.

Is the best post on this thread.

100% correct. Our first 11 on their day is as good as any in the league, but outside that, things are thin. Our bench today proved it. In fact, having El Zahr on the pitch proved it. We need a gluttony of signings in the summer of quality. Do we have the money for it? I don't think so. We may have to settle for two really high class signings and some better quality squad players. Some players will have to be sold off, and I expect players like Lucas, Benayoun, Babel and several fringe players to exit. Honestly, it doesn't matter if the manager is replaced. It won't change the situation for us. In fact, I can only see it worsening if that happens. If Benitez really has maintained that he wanted more control of signings, then lets see if his word is true. If he signs a few lesser unknowns and squad fillers again, well, then I'd advocate that he leaves because he will no longer have this leaning stick of an excuse to fall back upon.

Good post with a lot of truths

Good post ..... you just forgot to mention who's fault it is that the squad is so weak and who bought all the poor players that fill it.

And before you say it , no it wasn't Parry :D

I dont think they were all Rafas first choice signings either mate. And if you want to get Parry in it, maybe if him and that other snake Moores hadnt have gotten the yanks invovled we might have had owners who WOULD have let Rafa get all his first choice signings.

Rafa has spent over £100 million in the last two years, I don't think anyone can complain about how much money he has had.

Net spend? He has had to recoup a lot mate and most of the time can only spend big on 1 player max and has to dish out the rest over the whole squad. Not the same as say Fergie spening 30Mil on 2 strikers, 18Mil on a midfielder, 30 mil on a defender....not the same by a mile.


Net Spend 04 - 09 Purchased Sold Nett Per Season
1 Chelsea £221,450,000 £90,300,000 £131,150,000 £26,230,000 
2 Manchester City £171,020,000 £49,900,000 £121,120,000 £24,224,000 
3 Liverpool £215,490,000 £98,030,000 £117,460,000 £23,492,000 
4 Tottenham £230,800,000 £137,250,000 £93,550,000 £18,710,000 
5 Manchester United £169,350,000 £76,050,000 £93,300,000 £18,660,000 
6 Aston Villa £95,150,000 £21,255,000 £73,895,000 £14,779,000 
9 Sunderland £80,580,000 £11,650,000 £68,930,000 £13,786,000 
7 Newcastle £120,750,000 £83,400,000 £37,350,000 £7,470,000 
8 Middlesborough £62,200,000 £32,500,000 £29,700,000 £5,940,000 
10 Everton £80,100,000 £54,200,000 £25,900,000 £5,180,000 
12 Arsenal £102,050,000 £81,720,000 £20,330,000 £4,066,000 
11 West Ham £75,145,000 £61,625,000 £13,520,000 £2,704,000 
13 Portsmouth £77,700,000 £71,010,000 £6,690,000 £1,338,000 
14 Blackburn Rovers £36,100,000 £36,290,000 -£190,000 -£38,000



As you can see even on NET SPENDS , he has STILL spent more than the mancs.

Thats not possible mate I dont know how those figures have been put together.

Link to transfer league, just scroll down

You can always check them at LFC HISTORY

The difference is Saint that Rafa has had to sell to make up more so although it looks like he has spent more he hasn't. You are forgetting that when you have a title wining side not much needs to be done to keep it winning. Just buy a few good players now and again to maintain the strength in depth which is already there.

When Rafa came in did he have a title winning side? Not by a mile. So by that fact alone he had a bigger job to do and had to get more for his money.

Fergie has not been building a new side since 2004 has he? They have been the most dominant team in the 90s so those figures give a false picture that is not consistent with what is the real situation.
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Postby Toffeehater » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:38 pm

Rafa's crazy rant at fergie has cost us , he opened his mouth and we've been in a bliiiiiiiiippp ever since , giving up our points lead
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Postby Sabre » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:38 pm

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*_Ruthless_* wrote:Lets have a laugh at Rafa..

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.......i have been laughing all seson!....no doubt the "in rafa we trust brigade" will argue otherwise?...but its been staring everyone in the face (those who dont wear "rose tinted glasses") that rafa aint got what it takes to bring the title back to anfield. I say "fukk off parry....take Rafa with you"!. :buttrock

Mister. Someone coming to this thread and watching your  :buttrock might think we have won anything today.

Don't be so happy or they might get it wrong about today's result.

It was the nearest i could get to a "two fingered salute"...or could you not read into that?.....mister. ???

And the I have been laughing all season and now has some sort of improbable explanation for sure, you can save it, just realise it provides nothing to the forum, and it's not exactly what a bunch of dissapointed fans need after a defeat.
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Postby zarababe » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:39 pm

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i think this guys patience will be wearing thin

Class player deserves a league title medal before he retires , won't blame him if he wants to leave but i doubt he ever will .


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Postby tubby » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:40 pm

Toffeehater wrote:Rafa's crazy rant at fergie has cost us , he opened his mouth and we've been in a bliiiiiiiiippp ever since , giving up our points lead

You cannot put it to that alone. Rafa doesnt play on the pitch does he? It;s not his fault if the players cannot motivate themselves against the lower teams.

The rant was just 1 thing in a combination that has led to this.
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Postby NANNY RED » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:40 pm

maguskwt wrote:whenever the results don't go our way, the hounds come out on this forum... feckin joke...

Is right an all. But the bitch is still here supporting my team an manager :nod
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