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by **lakes10** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:22 pm

bavlondon wrote:
lakes10 wrote:well its started already, SSN are having a right pop at us.

Why not aye. Everyone else is having a pop at him so they may as well jump in.

yes but when it comes from phil thompson it hurts more.

by **redrover** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:22 pm

ffs does my head in when people go on about rafa needing more time cause the squad is weak he needs to get rid of the dead wood etc. HE SIGNED MOST OF THE DROSS IN OUR SQUAD. hes without excuse and needs to be shown the door asap.

by **Toffeehater** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:23 pm

Greavesie wrote:I wouldnt put Kuyt on that list of strong players TH

, he may not have the skills and pace of ronaldo but at least he gives his all in every match which makes up for the lack of skills . This season he has been one of our better players

by **Madmax** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:23 pm

he post match interviews be cr@p anyways.. i had enough of this shyte im going to the movies and clear out my head... anyways enjoy your moaning guys

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:23 pm

bavlondon wrote:
s@int wrote:
Dundalk wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Worst performance of the season, our fringe players are not good enough, and its obvious they put everything into the madrid game and had nothing left. i am not as angry as last week because last week I think we all know it was then we lost our title chance.

We have no strength beyond our first 11 full stop.

Is the best post on this thread.

100% correct. Our first 11 on their day is as good as any in the league, but outside that, things are thin. Our bench today proved it. In fact, having El Zahr on the pitch proved it. We need a gluttony of signings in the summer of quality. Do we have the money for it? I don't think so. We may have to settle for two really high class signings and some better quality squad players. Some players will have to be sold off, and I expect players like Lucas, Benayoun, Babel and several fringe players to exit. Honestly, it doesn't matter if the manager is replaced. It won't change the situation for us. In fact, I can only see it worsening if that happens. If Benitez really has maintained that he wanted more control of signings, then lets see if his word is true. If he signs a few lesser unknowns and squad fillers again, well, then I'd advocate that he leaves because he will no longer have this leaning stick of an excuse to fall back upon.

Good post with a lot of truths

Good post ..... you just forgot to mention who's fault it is that the squad is so weak and who bought all the poor players that fill it.

And before you say it , no it wasn't Parry

I dont think they were all Rafas first choice signings either mate. And if you want to get Parry in it, maybe if him and that other snake Moores hadnt have gotten the yanks invovled we might have had owners who WOULD have let Rafa get all his first choice signings.

Rafa has spent over £100 million in the last two years, I don't think anyone can complain about how much money he has had.

by **tubby** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:23 pm

TheLad wrote:Bad managing is mainly to blame for this awful result. With the right selection we could have draw the game. Simple as that.

Mate Riera and the rest were tired or injured. We have to rotate otherwise we they will not be able to play for us in Europe. The problem is the players Rafa brings in to rotate with are :censored:

.

Rafa is having to compete with all the rest on a smaller budget and is getting abused imo. Give him the same money as Fergie or Chelsea and then see what happens.

by **Dundalk** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:23 pm

I blame Heimdall

by **lakes10** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:24 pm

Ciggy wrote:
REDTILLDEAD wrote:Its rafa's fault that the mancs have been handed the opportunity to equal our 18th league title.....thats what he will be remembered for!.

Not entirely his fault, add the players, the boardroom sh!t to it and its a recipe for disaster.

well the borad room bit i will take but he pick the players and put them in the side, he even brought most on the players.

by **zarababe** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:24 pm

I've changed my comment re: Dalglish.. to what I meant... sorry for any offence caused..

by **Greavesie** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:24 pm

Dundalk wrote:I blame Heimdall

can we split it between Heimdall and LegBarnes?

by **Sabre** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:24 pm

*_Ruthless_* wrote:Wow Rafa didn't have alot to say ...

The game was that awful. Many times I read here this is awful, but how we fell down today after their goal is what's awful.

Today Rafa can't say we controlled the game, we were really were awful. We did create some chances, most of them before the debacle, but after the goal it's been a very bad performance and we could see many significative faces in the players.

Toughest blow I remember.

by **tubby** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:24 pm

s@int wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
s@int wrote:
Dundalk wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Worst performance of the season, our fringe players are not good enough, and its obvious they put everything into the madrid game and had nothing left. i am not as angry as last week because last week I think we all know it was then we lost our title chance.

We have no strength beyond our first 11 full stop.

Is the best post on this thread.

100% correct. Our first 11 on their day is as good as any in the league, but outside that, things are thin. Our bench today proved it. In fact, having El Zahr on the pitch proved it. We need a gluttony of signings in the summer of quality. Do we have the money for it? I don't think so. We may have to settle for two really high class signings and some better quality squad players. Some players will have to be sold off, and I expect players like Lucas, Benayoun, Babel and several fringe players to exit. Honestly, it doesn't matter if the manager is replaced. It won't change the situation for us. In fact, I can only see it worsening if that happens. If Benitez really has maintained that he wanted more control of signings, then lets see if his word is true. If he signs a few lesser unknowns and squad fillers again, well, then I'd advocate that he leaves because he will no longer have this leaning stick of an excuse to fall back upon.

Good post with a lot of truths

Good post ..... you just forgot to mention who's fault it is that the squad is so weak and who bought all the poor players that fill it.

And before you say it , no it wasn't Parry

I dont think they were all Rafas first choice signings either mate. And if you want to get Parry in it, maybe if him and that other snake Moores hadnt have gotten the yanks invovled we might have had owners who WOULD have let Rafa get all his first choice signings.

Rafa has spent over £100 million in the last two years, I don't think anyone can complain about how much money he has had.

Net spend? He has had to recoup a lot mate and most of the time can only spend big on 1 player max and has to dish out the rest over the whole squad. Not the same as say Fergie spening 30Mil on 2 strikers, 18Mil on a midfielder, 30 mil on a defender....not the same by a mile.

by **112-1077774096** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:25 pm

bavlondon wrote:
TheLad wrote:Bad managing is mainly to blame for this awful result. With the right selection we could have draw the game. Simple as that.

Mate Riera and the rest were tired or injured. We have to rotate otherwise we they will not be able to play for us in Europe. The problem is the players Rafa brings in to rotate with are .

Rafa is having to compete with all the rest on a smaller budget and is getting abused imo. Give him the same money as Fergie or Chelsea and then see what happens.

borough had a tough game midweek with a smaller weaker squad, dont make excuses mate

by **murphy0151** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:25 pm

Toffeehater wrote:
murphy0151 wrote:
*_Ruthless_* wrote:Its days like this where I think about seriously killing a Man Utd fan.

Im sick of there fecking rants after every game we balls up in..

I do that on most days anyway lol

SAck RAfa lets get Joe Royal or Alan Curbishley or even that other top draw manager who will do well in Europe Big sam allerdyce.

If Rafa gets as much time as alex ferguson did im sure he will deliver the title. RAfa has got to admit our squad is not good enough. Babel hes been shocking. Lucas has been very poor indeed and even Caragher for me isint all that. Yes hes amazing at defending but he cant pass the ball forward more than 5 yards.

Oh its hard being a red isint it, im just dreaming of Rome now. And for almost 20 years before RAfa come we couldnt dream about getting to a 3rd european final in 5 seasons

bad times

another one , thats the thing rafa has had time , he has had money , just not spent it wisely . Good players that rafa has bought , 6 players in 5 years . He had keane , he sold him why? i will never know , he's a arrogant rafa

Reina
Alonso
Masch
Torres
Kuyt
Riera

Why he sold Keane ill tell you mate cause he was s h t for us fulls top. Made a mistake buying him, and got rid quickly so he could get most of the money back we spent on him.

Hes arrogant lol who do you want as manager to replace him? Let me guess Mourinho now he is arrogant.

If you look at closely mate all the players who arent really stepping up to plate our all players around the ten million mark, arent they? If you look at man utds team they dont have many of these players as most of there players our close to the 20 million mark. A 10 million pound player is not as good as a 20 million pound player. Hes had money to spend but on many occasions hes wanted better players but not had the resources so had to go for the cheaper option. So thats aload of bull mate.

Come on tell me who you want to manage liverpool?

by **REDTILLDEAD** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:26 pm

*_Ruthless_* wrote:Lets have a laugh at Rafa..

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.......i have been laughing all seson!....no doubt the "in rafa we trust brigade" will argue otherwise?...but its been staring everyone in the face (those who dont wear "rose tinted glasses") that rafa aint got what it takes to bring the title back to anfield. I say "fukk off parry....take Rafa with you"!. :buttrock

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