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by **kindaconfuzed** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:04 am

Guys and girls

I know this isn't going to go down well with some of the peeps in the forum but I have serious concerns as to the managers decisions. Also I'm trying to take the emotion out of the analysis and looking at the hard facts.

After the Bolton game the manager is talking about Hypia being a big loss but what has this to do with the game, unless the quote has been taken out of context.

The goal was scored by a low cross.

The other issue is that he says they need to tighten up the defence so does this mean the attack is OK when the number of shots we had on target wouldnt fit half the fingers on me left hand.

What we need is comments about how he plans to solve the mid field and the attack especially when the 2 strikers play as 2 strikers without any link up and we still play the long ball up the middle for half of our attacks.

by **Matt*Lfc** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:21 am

At least he knows there are problems and like has been said many times before he needs time .
He is not playing a computer game and cannot just buy anyone he wants it is real life there are many factors that he needs to sort out which will not be sorted overnight .

For instance he wants to implement tactics which how ever many times you practice them in training ,it will be a lot harder in a real match . Once these players understand want he wants and everyone is pulling in the right direction then we will see a improvement maybe we need to go backwards before we go forwards .( 1 step back 2 steps forward )

Our team has been in a rut for a 5 years now and that is hard to break .The problem I see is that after getting a new manager who has had success instantly at his previous club most people expect us to be the same our team needs a lot more work than Valencia did .

You forget that Benitez has not been at Liverpool for the last 5 years just a few months with only a few competitive games under his belt . He needs to play different players different tactics so he knows who he can rely on and who he cant and what tactics will work and what wont .

What we need to look at is the whole picture not just a quick fix , if at the end of the season and we have not improved on last year then we are entitled to moan but 3 games in !! that is just sad and not what Liverpool FC is about as a club we are better than that dont you think ?

Lets not get on his back give the guy a chance

by **Paul C** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:35 am

What do you mean 'serious concerns re the manager' the guy has been here 5 mins and your questioning him already, show some faith and support the guy :angry:

by **fivecups** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:54 am

Paul C wrote:What do you mean 'serious concerns re the manager' the guy has been here 5 mins and your questioning him already, show some faith and support the guy

And have some patience, there are five new signings in the squad, a new manager and coaching staff.......... it will not happen overnight.

by **mynameisred** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:12 am

Your allowed your point kindaconfused but losing Hypia was a big blow for us he is our main defender due to his height and doubly important when you consider the way bolton played the match. Rafa may have made a mistake bringing on Traore but at least he has had a chance to see him play and can decide what he wants to do with him from now on.
If your basing your view on facts then I guess that means your looking at all our performances this season and then you will understand why he has to tighten up at the back. As Matt said the team has played one way for 5 years and more specifically the defence has been used to sitting on the edge of its box for all that time. As I said before you are allowed your say but C'mon can you not channel your energies into a more positive slant on things. All great teams build from the back its why Arsenal have the base to play their football, its why the scum are struggling and its why Chelsea are so hard to beat. Its why we dominated during the 70's and 80's and its why we won 5 trophies in one season. If you dont concede a goal you have a great chance of winning. Regarding our Forwards I will be a little concerned if we do not sign someone before the deadline but remember we have the Euros top scorer,the biggest talent in france over the last 3 years and Sinama who I believe will turn into our little defoe given time.

by **kindaconfuzed** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:13 am

paul C

I understand your concerns but when then is it time to make comment. And surely the idea of our comments here is to say things that concern us immediately without any of the issues which prevent the management doing the same. The fun here is surely to be able to make this sort of comment.

If he hasnt had enuff time I agree with this but the posting talked about the failure to recognise what the real problem which he doesn't seem to have recognised as it wasn't the defence in this case.

by **kindaconfuzed** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:15 am

5cups

I agree with what you also say but the concern again is in his comments, healthy debate makes for a healthy forum and too much censorship only prevents this.

by **Redrider** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:16 am

Has he drawn his first months wages yet ?

by **zarababe** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:35 am

kindaconfuzed wrote:5cups

I agree with what you also say but the concern again is in his comments, healthy debate makes for a healthy forum and too much censorship only prevents this.

You are badly confuzed ...maaan.. You are questioning the ability of the Man who has out thought and tactically beaten REal and BArca...

I would suggest u listen to his pre and post match thoughts and analysis.. he is no fantasist.. rather a realist.. some of that on this form wouldn't go a miss :glare:

Think before posting ... Benitez is the man ... he'll turn it around and when he does I hope u start the thread saluting him

by **lakes10** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:17 am

i have been lead to belive that liverpool can get rid of him at the end of the year if he has not met a few things the board have asked of him one being he must be in the 10 ten at xmas and that we are still in the Champions League.
i dont know how true this is but it was post on another forum and it seemed they think it was true

by **lakes10** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:19 am

i think the guy will be great but as we all saying we must give him time

by **kindaconfuzed** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:24 am

I've read all the posting and thanks for the enlightened comments, nearly all of which I accept but Southampton and Newcastle have already made moves so are they wrong and we're right or are they just handling it with a bit more realism.

What we can't afford is to let emotions getting in the way of difficult decisions.

by **zackboxer** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:40 am

Different situations entirely. Robson had been given 6 years and Sturrock looked out of his depth.

This guy is a top class manager but is going to need time to adjust to a new country, team and players.
Benitez also has a major rebuilding job to do, so get real , have some patience and give the guy some time.

by **akumaface** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:56 am

For some of you that suggesting Rafa will be shown the door if his result was not satisfying at the end of the season, I think there is a possibility let say if we were delegated but its not realistic isn't it. If he is sacked, who are you going to bring in? GH again? Rafa is a top class manager and show some faith. Its only one game and do you possibly think we can go undefeated the whole season like Arsenal this year? Some of you need to lighten up

by **addicted norwegian** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:12 pm

kindaconfuzed wrote:I've read all the posting and thanks for the enlightened comments, nearly all of which I accept but Southampton and Newcastle have already made moves so are they wrong and we're right or are they just handling it with a bit more realism.

What we can't afford is to let emotions getting in the way of difficult decisions.

In my opinion we`re ahead of them. GH was sacked just after the end of last season because he couldn`t deliever the goods according to the ambitions of this great club. We made the, as you put it, "difficult decision then" (which btw couldn`t have been very difficult), and because of that we had the time to search for the right man to reign at Anfield. Saints and Newcastle who waits until after the campaign has started are in deep ******, because of the turbulence caused by finding temporary replacement and later on the new manager.

Rafa needs time to make a winning team; He did it in Valencia and he`s gonna do it in Liverpool.

I hope you`re not suggesting that Rafa should be given the boot. If you do you are a t**t :angry:

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