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by **Ciggy** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:31 pm

bigmick wrote:just the same as those who booed Bellamy the other day were simply expressing their rights as paying fans.

I thought they where gobsh!tes whether they had paid or not that is not the liverpool way, they have no rights as far as I am concerned. It was embarressing :no

by **tubby** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:34 pm

People how do I do multiple quotes?

by **redhayesy** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:34 pm

Ciggy wrote:
bigmick wrote:Those that slag him, have no idea whether he was good at his job or not. They are basing their opinions on those who have a vested interest in portraying him as being clueless.

Not true atall we have evidence to prove it, forgetting about the Hillsborough anniversary one year, I wont play the numbers game with the ticketing fiasco at athens.
failing to tie down, macmanaman, Owen, gerrard.
selling us to the worst owners in the world. carlsberg, could have got us a stadium built that would have cost around 75 thousand. has put the club in debt of 400 million after whoring the club around the world for 6 years and we end up with the feckin Clampets.

His list of errors go on and on him and freddy Boswell killed our club so he is not totally to blame.

thank you ciggy for your polite answer to mick, he is the one who has shown he is fecking clueless! i for one wouldn't have been so, mick as a long time member of this forum you should know beyyer than most - THINK before you post! you have shown yourself up bigtime. i will not dwell on this topic as it will upset me too much ,but anyone connected with LFC that doesn't remember the hillsborough anniversary will never ever be forgiven by me end of.

by **mistyred** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:35 pm

Feck Parry good riddance

by **Judge** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:57 pm

mistyred wrote: Feck Parry good riddance

me

by **Moop123** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:04 pm

Does anyone know if this 2pm press conference is going ahead?

by **tubby** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:05 pm

2pm press conference? Will it be live? What happened to that stream of lfc tv it went dead....

by **Effes** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:06 pm

Moop123 wrote:Does anyone know if this 2pm press conference is going ahead?

Ive just been running round like a blue @rsed fly to get back for that.

Got 5Live on now, nowt being said.

by **tel** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:07 pm

bigmick wrote:See since I've been a Liverpool suporter, there have been occasional c...s like El Hadji Diouf who have incurred the wrath of Liverpool fans. He deserved it of course. Bizarrely, Craig Bellamy got some boos at the weekend for managing to miss the post this time and actually score for the Away team at Anfield, despite not celebrating the goal. Other than that though, pretty much everyone as far as I can tell gets a good rap. If they did their best and they don't slag the club off, they get treated with respect.

For me, Parry is no different. Those that slag him, have no idea whether he was good at his job or not. They are basing their opinions on those who have a vested interest in portraying him as being clueless.

Didnt Parry find Hicks and Gillette and support the club being sold to them?

What else do you need to know about him?

by **tubby** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:10 pm

Effes wrote:
Moop123 wrote:Does anyone know if this 2pm press conference is going ahead?

Ive just been running round like a blue @rsed fly to get back for that.

Got 5Live on now, nowt being said.

Let me know if they start it on 5live. Ive got it up but muted...

watching that One Night in May doc...

by **Effes** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:11 pm

bavlondon wrote:
Effes wrote:
Moop123 wrote:Does anyone know if this 2pm press conference is going ahead?

Ive just been running round like a blue @rsed fly to get back for that.

Got 5Live on now, nowt being said.

Let me know if they start it on 5live. Ive got it up but muted...

watching that One Night in May doc...

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by **Effes** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:12 pm

Rafa just interviewed - said it was an issue between Parry and the owners.

by **Judge** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:12 pm

bavlondon wrote:
Effes wrote:
Moop123 wrote:Does anyone know if this 2pm press conference is going ahead?

Ive just been running round like a blue @rsed fly to get back for that.

Got 5Live on now, nowt being said.

Let me know if they start it on 5live. Ive got it up but muted...

watching that One Night in May doc...

i'll wait for lakes10s input

by **tubby** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:13 pm

Thanks. Will bookmark that on my iphone too!

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:20 pm

Analysis: Rick Parry departure strengthens position of Tom Hicks and Rafael Benitez

Liverpool have been rocked yet again by news that Rick Parry, the chief executive, is to leave the club. Oliver Kay, The Times's Chief Football Correspondent, explains the significance of the latest development at Anfield

First of all, what does Rick Parry’s departure mean for Liverpool?

It could mean a variety of things, simply because of the number of different characters and agendas that he leaves behind at Anfield. Rafael Benitez might regard it as another battle won in his power struggle, or at least the removal of an obstacle from his path. Tom Hicks will regard it as a triumph, having first demanded Parry’s resignation last April. George Gillett Jr may find himself out on a limb, with Parry having been his ally in the boardroom.

And why has it happened today?

Well, it has been on the cards for a while. Parry has known for some time that his days were numbered. Hicks has been highly critical of the club’s lack of commercial success in the decade that Parry has been at Anfield, while Benitez has questioned Parry’s method of negotiating transfers. When Hicks demanded his resignation last April, Gillett blocked it, but Parry knew that the arrangement had become untenable in terms of working under Hicks. There are strong suggestions that Gillett finally relented after a disagreement with Parry over the rumours about Benitez’s position earlier this week.

Was Parry was one of the good guys?

He is an extremely good guy. His problem is that he, along with David Moores, the former chairman, made a poor decision to sell to Hicks and Gillett in February 2007 and they have regretted it ever since. Parry has tried to rise above the mudslinging that has been rife at Anfield ever since and tried to preserve something of what he calls “the Liverpool way”. But the whole affair has been ugly, meaning that little or nothing could get done. Something had to give and, sadly for Parry, it was him – to be followed, I strongly suspect, by Gillett’s departure.

Does this mean Benitez has got what he wants?

I think it’s important to look at the power struggle at Anfield as a war, not just one battle. Things at Anfield really have been that bad for the past 18 months. Benitez didn’t have a good working relationship with Parry, which was the source of a lot of problems for both of them. Unlike a lot of other fraught relationships at Anfield, it was purely a professional, rather than a personal, conflict, but I am pretty certain that Benitez will feel his own position is a little clearer this morning.

What was the problem between them?

Benitez often complained publicly about transfer deals or contracts that weren’t tied up quickly enough. He blamed Parry for that. Benitez’s view is that, with a different chief executive, he would have signed Nemanja Vidic, Daniel Alves, Gareth Barry and others. Parry’s view is that any “delays” were merely the kind that exist in any corporate structure. He would also argue that, with a different chief executive, Liverpool would not have invested large sums on Andrea Dossena, Lucas Leiva and others. It is a question of whether or not the manager should be accountable to his chief executive over transfers.

There were reports this morning that Liverpool wanted to replace Benitez with Jose Mourinho.

Well, if Liverpool sounded out Mourinho’s advisers, however tentatively, I suspect that had less to do with Hicks or Parry than with Gillett, who was the architect of the infamous talks with Jurgen Klinsmann in the autumn of 2007. But that is a big “if”. Contrary to this week’s rumours, Benitez’s position has been secure and will become increasingly so.

So what happens next?

Benitez will sign his contract soon – not purely because of today’s developments but because he was going to do so anyway. Parry is expected to stay on until the end of the season while a replacement is found. If an interim is needed, I suspect it will be Ian Ayre, the commercial director, or Philip Nash, the finance director. Either of those two, who were appointed by Hicks, could end up getting the post, but the word already from Anfield is that they will advertise the position in the hope of getting a top-quality candidate from outside the club.

And what happens with the owners?

Hicks, having been very open to selling last year, is going nowhere. He has built up a strong power base over the past six months or so and his alliance with Benitez has become powerful. As for Gillett, he has been looking to offload his stake for more than 12 months and today’s news leaves him with even less reason to stay around. There were strong rumours yesterday that an announcement today would be about Gillett finding a buyer and selling up immediately. In the end, the story was a different one, but I am sure Gillett’s departure will not be too far away.

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