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by **taff** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:36 pm

Effes wrote:
taff wrote:On sky sports news betting on Rafa leaving has been suspended. This looks like tonight might be his last game

Taff, they were running a very small book in the first place.

All the internet rumours doing the rounds had people placing bets.
Their maximum bet was only small anyway, so a small book which had to be closed as everyone
reading the rumours on the internet put it out of balance.

I wouldn't worry about it.

I hope so Effes

by **tonyeh** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:44 pm

GYBS wrote:how can it be assessed then ?

By how the team plays compared to previous years.

Utd are going to win the league this year.

But they're playing badly and barely scraping wins. They certainly are not repeating or "progressing" on the standard they had last year.

Does the fact that they will end the year at top spot that mean they progressed on their form, from last year. No, it doesn't.

Bettering how you achieved a certain result in the past is real progress. Simply looking at the end result doesn't show the whole story.

by **Effes** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:44 pm

taff wrote:
Effes wrote:
taff wrote:On sky sports news betting on Rafa leaving has been suspended. This looks like tonight might be his last game

Taff, they were running a very small book in the first place.

All the internet rumours doing the rounds had people placing bets.
Their maximum bet was only small anyway, so a small book which had to be closed as everyone
reading the rumours on the internet put it out of balance.

I wouldn't worry about it.

I hope so Effes

I may have spoke too soon - someone on LFC.TV is claiming that David Fairclough has confirmed that Rafa
will be leaving at the weekend.

by **tonyeh** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:47 pm

taff wrote:
Effes wrote:
taff wrote:On sky sports news betting on Rafa leaving has been suspended. This looks like tonight might be his last game

Taff, they were running a very small book in the first place.

All the internet rumours doing the rounds had people placing bets.
Their maximum bet was only small anyway, so a small book which had to be closed as everyone
reading the rumours on the internet put it out of balance.

I wouldn't worry about it.

I hope so Effes

Some people in the media are saying that tonights game is Bentez' application for the Madrid post. In other words, if Liverpool beat them well, Benitez may well have a contract offer from Spain soon enough and the fear is he may go if their terms are more favorable.

by **LegBarnes** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:48 pm

Effes wrote:
taff wrote:
Effes wrote:
taff wrote:On sky sports news betting on Rafa leaving has been suspended. This looks like tonight might be his last game

Taff, they were running a very small book in the first place.

All the internet rumours doing the rounds had people placing bets.
Their maximum bet was only small anyway, so a small book which had to be closed as everyone
reading the rumours on the internet put it out of balance.

I wouldn't worry about it.

I hope so Effes

I may have spoke too soon - someone on LFC.TV is claiming that David Fairclough has confirmed that Rafa
will be leaving at the weekend.

fecking hell if it on liverpool TV its got to be truth ?

by **mistyred** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:48 pm

No way Rafa will walk before the end of the season, IF he
goes it will be the owners and the contract nonsense.

Mind you if you worked somewhere and sent a contract back 5 times what
would your boss say.

I still think he won't go before the seasons end of his own accord.

by **Emerald Red** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:51 pm

taff wrote:On sky sports news betting on Rafa leaving has been suspended. This looks like tonight might be his last game

It's bollox and typical of the gutter press trying to stir the sh*t before a massive game for us. Sky Sports must have reliable sources on the Football365 forums, and in turn those sources have a source that goes by the name of Lawro, who is in fact a bullsh*tter.

by **LegBarnes** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:52 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
taff wrote:On sky sports news betting on Rafa leaving has been suspended. This looks like tonight might be his last game

It's bollox and typical of the gutter press trying to stir the sh*t before a massive game for us. Sky Sports must have reliable sources on the Football365 forums, and in turn those sources have a source that goes by the name of Lawro, who is in fact a bullsh*tter.

Red its been on LFC TV mate

by **Bad Bob** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:53 pm

tonyeh wrote:Look, I don't care about what other teams are doing. I care about how Liverpool is doing. It's Liverpool's progress I'm concerned about and this season, I haven't seen the progress in the side that GYBS is talking about.

Then why do you keep bringing them up as a yardstick to measure whether we've 'actually' progressed? If you didn't care about other teams, you wouldn't spend so much time saying that we're only where we are in the table because Chelsea and Arsenal have screwed up worse than we have. I'd have a lot more respect for your argument about 'lack of progress despite what the table says' if you would just stop bringing Chelsea and Arsenal into it. Fact is, the happy clappers have been told for a while that our shortcomings can't be excused by saying we're not as good a side as the Mancs, Chelsea and maybe Arsenal. So, I'm just applying the same thinking in reverse: our success this season can't be dismissed on the basis of what our rivals have failed to do.

From my perspective, the table doesn't lie: we wouldn't be anywhere near 2nd place if we were as poor as people like you make out. With that said, we have shown many of the same failings that have scuppered our chances of challenging in the past and that is a worry. So, why don't we just discuss those failings rather than concocting strange scenarios to explain away our position ahead of two teams that have, frankly, played worse football than us for a fair chunk of the season?

by **Emerald Red** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:54 pm

LegBarnes wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
taff wrote:On sky sports news betting on Rafa leaving has been suspended. This looks like tonight might be his last game

It's bollox and typical of the gutter press trying to stir the sh*t before a massive game for us. Sky Sports must have reliable sources on the Football365 forums, and in turn those sources have a source that goes by the name of Lawro, who is in fact a bullsh*tter.

Red its been on LFC TV mate

It's been all over the place. So far, it's just allegory. The rumour started on those forums. It's the usual bollox every year. We're just fodder for the press at the moment.

by **LegBarnes** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:55 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
taff wrote:On sky sports news betting on Rafa leaving has been suspended. This looks like tonight might be his last game

It's bollox and typical of the gutter press trying to stir the sh*t before a massive game for us. Sky Sports must have reliable sources on the Football365 forums, and in turn those sources have a source that goes by the name of Lawro, who is in fact a bullsh*tter.

Red its been on LFC TV mate

It's been all over the place. So far, it's just allegory. The rumour started on those forums. It's the usual bollox every year. We're just fodder for the press at the moment.

LFC TV is the liverpool web site tho mate not gun ho press.

any ways lets have link please for this report or interview what ever it is finding it hard ot believe my self unless i see with me own eyes.

by **mistyred** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:55 pm

Surely somebody on Lfc tv must know
something?.

by **LegBarnes** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:57 pm

Effes wrote:
taff wrote:
Effes wrote:
taff wrote:On sky sports news betting on Rafa leaving has been suspended. This looks like tonight might be his last game

Taff, they were running a very small book in the first place.

All the internet rumours doing the rounds had people placing bets.
Their maximum bet was only small anyway, so a small book which had to be closed as everyone
reading the rumours on the internet put it out of balance.

I wouldn't worry about it.

I hope so Effes

I may have spoke too soon - someone on LFC.TV is claiming that David Fairclough has confirmed that Rafa
will be leaving at the weekend.

Link it please mate if you seen it. :Oo:

by **tonyeh** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:02 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
tonyeh wrote:Look, I don't care about what other teams are doing. I care about how Liverpool is doing. It's Liverpool's progress I'm concerned about and this season, I haven't seen the progress in the side that GYBS is talking about.

Then why do you keep bringing them up as a yardstick to measure whether we've 'actually' progressed? If you didn't care about other teams, you wouldn't spend so much time saying that we're only where we are in the table because Chelsea and Arsenal have screwed up worse than we have. I'd have a lot more respect for your argument about 'lack of progress despite what the table says' if you would just stop bringing Chelsea and Arsenal into it. Fact is, the happy clappers have been told for a while that our shortcomings can't be excused by saying we're not as good a side as the Mancs, Chelsea and maybe Arsenal. So, I'm just applying the same thinking in reverse: our success this season can't be dismissed on the basis of what our rivals have failed to do.

From my perspective, the table doesn't lie: we wouldn't be anywhere near 2nd place if we were as poor as people like you make out. With that said, we have shown many of the same failings that have scuppered our chances of challenging in the past and that is a worry. So, why don't we just discuss those failings rather than concocting strange scenarios to explain away our position ahead of two teams that have, frankly, played worse football than us for a fair chunk of the season?

Just because I don't care if Chelsea has had a bad season this year, doesn't mean it isn't a factor on our position this season. If Chelsea had played well this year and Liverpool had improved on their form from last season, then I would say that the team had progressed from last year.

However, Liverpool have not played better than last year, but Chelsea have played worse than they did last season.

That is not a progression.

by **zarababe** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:02 pm

Dundalk wrote:This is not a discussion thread, it is a list of members names and were their loyalty lies. Simply reply in this thread if you would like Rafa to GO, STAY or if you are UNDECIDED and you will be added to the list

We will be able to see where everyone stands on this

STAY
Dundalk
Reg
Emerald Red
kazza
redbeergoggles
bavlondon
Bammo
taff
SupitsJonF
fivecups
t-h-o-m
redhayesy
Boocity
NANNY RED
hello_red
GRAHAM01
akumaface
theanfieldgank
dawson99
zarababe
Zidane
GYBS
RedBlood
Sabre
Kash_Mountain
maguskwt

GO
bigmick
heimdall
s@int
The Good Yank
lakes10
teamleader1
loopyliverpool
Alex G
aCe'
LegBarnes
Rockthekop
centarec

UNDECIDED
Madmax
Effes
shakey
TheRedsFan
GOAT_2.0
tonyeh
Greavesie
Bermenstein
Raffmaker

the stays have it :laugh:

Get in Rafa's reds..... yeh :buttrock

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