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tonyeh wrote:

Lando_Griffin wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

Lando_Griffin wrote:

tonyeh wrote:People mouth off insults, because the don't have an intelligent reply to offer for an argument they don't like/want to hear.

It's that simple.

You only have to look at some of the replies on here by some people to see that they just do not have a reasoned response for their position formed in their head.

The inane ramblings of an idiot.

I don't counter dim-witted arguments as no matter where you're from, bullsh*t baffles brains.

You aren't here to learn. You aren't here to form opinions.

You're here to GIVE opinions.

Once a poster with all the intellectual agility of a carrot has made their amoeba-like mind up, all the reasoned and informed debate in the World won't change it. That is "FACT." (Said by you, no doubt, in a sort of post-counseling "I love me" way, hinting at the troubled childhood where you were shunned by those around you, only to find your one true purpose of being "The Village Idiot", meaning you would forever be tarnished with the disdainful looks of faces past, and a faint odour of rotting pilchards.)

Tell me, though, if you are able:

How do you counter; "Rafa is a c*nt and I want him sacked"?

I await your response with baited breath...

Watch yer mouth fatman...you might end up with another card.

This "The inane ramblings of an idiot"...This "
I don't counter dim-witted arguments as no matter where you're from, bullsh*t baffles brains" and this "Said by you, no doubt, in a sort of post-counseling "I love me" way, hinting at the troubled childhood where you were shunned by those around you" are prime examples of what is wrong with some people's replies on this forum.

And your inability to realise that I am not the cartoon character in my signature is a prime example of your lacking intellect and sagging mind.

Now go and fetch the paper for your spaniel, bitch.

Nobody's listening to you fatman.     

Oi  Lando's not fat .. he's quite fit actually 

Reg wrote:

Sir Roger wrote:So hes staying?
Right
Now lets see him getting on with the job hes paid thousands of pounds a week for
The team winning trophies

Someone call H&G and tell them theres no need to sack him, we´re decided he can stay !! 

or call H and G and tell them to do one 

tonyeh wrote:

GYBS wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

GYBS wrote:how can it be assessed then ?

By how the team plays compared to previous years.

Utd are going to win the league this year.

But they're playing badly and barely scraping wins. They certainly are not repeating or "progressing" on the standard they had last year.

Does the fact that they will end the year at top spot that mean they progressed on their form, from last year. No, it doesn't.

Bettering how you achieved a certain result in the past is real progress. Simply looking at the end result doesn't show the whole story.

So we have to stuff teams compared to last season to show we have progressed ? we have to play teams off the park ? getting wins and points isnt enough for some then ?

I think maye and just maybe people ask too much of the team an players . way to much .

No...we just have to play better than last year and so far we haven't done that.

Effes wrote:

GYBS wrote::bowdown 

get in there

Bleedin ell GYBS - you're a feckin Scatman.

Whenever I look at the threads, it's just GYBS, GYBS, GYBS every feckin where.

Post more than one line and just have your say. You turn this place into a chatroom sometimes.

GYBS' Theme song

GYBS wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

GYBS wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

GYBS wrote:how can it be assessed then ?

By how the team plays compared to previous years.

Utd are going to win the league this year.

But they're playing badly and barely scraping wins. They certainly are not repeating or "progressing" on the standard they had last year.

Does the fact that they will end the year at top spot that mean they progressed on their form, from last year. No, it doesn't.

Bettering how you achieved a certain result in the past is real progress. Simply looking at the end result doesn't show the whole story.

So we have to stuff teams compared to last season to show we have progressed ? we have to play teams off the park ? getting wins and points isnt enough for some then ?

I think maye and just maybe people ask too much of the team an players . way to much .

No...we just have to play better than last year and so far we haven't done that.

well it doesnt help being without two of your best players for large pasrt of the season - so to me to be where we are when we have had to play a lot of matches without them shows great improvement

loopyliverpool wrote:I think you'll find there have been reasoned arguments by both sides. Raffa has always been lauded as a top bloke no matter what the stance and all want the best for the club. Some, like myself, feel Raffa has taken the club as far as he can. Never have we slagged him off or indeed wished him anything other than success. We've been critical-yes-but to suggest we are not behind him or the team is nonsense. As it goes the 'stays' have it and good luck to that. If he does stay Iam not going to be devestated about it, he's a decent manager who has brought success to our club. Iam seriously doubtful whether he can bring the Champinonship though and for me that is the bottom line.

LegBarnes wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

Bad Bob wrote:

tonyeh wrote:Look, I don't care about what other teams are doing. I care about how Liverpool is doing. It's Liverpool's progress I'm concerned about and this season, I haven't seen the progress in the side that GYBS is talking about.

Then why do you keep bringing them up as a yardstick to measure whether we've 'actually' progressed?  If you didn't care about other teams, you wouldn't spend so much time saying that we're only where we are in the table because Chelsea and Arsenal have screwed up worse than we have.  I'd have a lot more respect for your argument about 'lack of progress despite what the table says' if you would just stop bringing Chelsea and Arsenal into it.  Fact is, the happy clappers have been told for a while that our shortcomings can't be excused by saying we're not as good a side as the Mancs, Chelsea and maybe Arsenal.  So, I'm just applying the same thinking in reverse: our success this season can't be dismissed on the basis of what our rivals have failed to do.

From my perspective, the table doesn't lie: we wouldn't be anywhere near 2nd place if we were as poor as people like you make out.  With that said, we have shown many of the same failings that have scuppered our chances of challenging in the past and that is a worry.  So, why don't we just discuss those failings rather than concocting strange scenarios to explain away our position ahead of two teams that have, frankly, played worse football than us for a fair chunk of the season?

Just because I don't care if Chelsea has had a bad season this year, doesn't mean it isn't a factor on our position this season. If Chelsea had played well this year and Liverpool had improved on their form from last season, then I would say that the team had progressed from last year.

However, Liverpool have not played better than last year, but Chelsea have played worse than they did last season.

That is not a progression.

no point getting in chat with an admin you can't win if you do they just ban you. 

Tell me about it. 
Just kidding, please don't ban me again. 

tonyeh wrote:

GYBS wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

GYBS wrote:how can it be assessed then ?

By how the team plays compared to previous years.

Utd are going to win the league this year.

But they're playing badly and barely scraping wins. They certainly are not repeating or "progressing" on the standard they had last year.

Does the fact that they will end the year at top spot that mean they progressed on their form, from last year. No, it doesn't.

Bettering how you achieved a certain result in the past is real progress. Simply looking at the end result doesn't show the whole story.

So we have to stuff teams compared to last season to show we have progressed ? we have to play teams off the park ? getting wins and points isnt enough for some then ?

I think maye and just maybe people ask too much of the team an players . way to much .

No...we just have to play better than last year and so far we haven't done that.

Dude I take my hat off to you still trying to explain this to GYBS, you certainly have a lot more patience than I have.