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by **bigmick** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:27 am

GYBS wrote:Interesting times ahead for Villa and also if they can keep hold of the manager cause i can see Mon being looked at for the Chelsea and Man City jobs and in the future the Man Utd job.

I think he'd do an excellent job at any big club in the Premiership mate. I've said it many times, there may be even more clubs than you've mentioned who look at him and wonder if he could do a better job than their own manager.

by **GYBS** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:31 am

bigmick wrote:
GYBS wrote:Interesting times ahead for Villa and also if they can keep hold of the manager cause i can see Mon being looked at for the Chelsea and Man City jobs and in the future the Man Utd job.

I think he'd do an excellent job at any big club in the Premiership mate. I've said it many times, there may be even more clubs than you've mentioned who look at him and wonder if he could do a better job than their own manager.

mentioned them two as i think they will be the two most likely to be looking for a manager and prob the only two that you would expect him to look at bar us ,mancs and arsenal .

by **bigmick** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:41 am

GYBS wrote:
bigmick wrote:
GYBS wrote:Interesting times ahead for Villa and also if they can keep hold of the manager cause i can see Mon being looked at for the Chelsea and Man City jobs and in the future the Man Utd job.

I think he'd do an excellent job at any big club in the Premiership mate. I've said it many times, there may be even more clubs than you've mentioned who look at him and wonder if he could do a better job than their own manager.

mentioned them two as i think they will be the two most likely to be looking for a manager and prob the only two that you would expect him to look at bar us ,mancs and arsenal .

Well I can't see there being a vacancy at Arsenal or Man Utd for at least another two seasons, but I suppose you never know.

I actually think though that he might be inclined to stick it out at Villa. They love him there (and rightly so) and my guess is he thinks he can do something.

by **GYBS** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:48 am

yeah - guess all depends on how big the lure is for him to chelsea and man city - chelsea would be a set up in terms of quality and man city in terms of spending funds but job wont be as secure .

by **Scottbot** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:04 pm

GYBS wrote:How long has Mon been at the job ? 3-4 years now is it and now they are just threatening to break into the CL spots ?

I thought that this was only MON's 2nd season at Villa?

he's doing a tremendous job there. Look back in the archive threads in 2004 after Ged was fired and just about every post i made was championing O'neil for the Liverpool job. I was desperate for him to get the job.

It was all forgotten by Wednesday, May 25th, 2005 mind...

How the hell did England pass this guy up for Steve McLaren!?!?!?!?

by **GYBS** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:13 pm

This is O neills third season with Villa .

And yeah how the FA went past who knows but we all know they are a buunch of eejits

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:37 pm

My only criticism of O'Neill is he only seems to have one system and one string to his bow. Every team he has had have played the same way......on the break with a big striker up front to lump the ball up to when under pressure.

Whether he is just making the best use of admittedly limited resources or thats the only way he knows I am not sure. One thing I am sure of is that he does it very successfully. Whether that will ever be enough to take him the extra step only time will tell.

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:48 pm

Sid Lowe The Guardian, Monday 16 February 2009

Rafael Benítez has urged Liverpool's American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett to secure his future at the club by offering contracts to his backroom staff. He has also hinted that if a solution is not found to his own contract issues by the summer, then his position will become unsustainable.

Benítez has been reluctant to sign a new deal with the club despite being offered two extensions. Although a financial package has been virtually agreed, the Spaniard wants greater control over the running of the club, as well as the freedom to choose and pursue his own transfer targets, effectively bypassing the chief executive, Rick Parry, with whom his relationship has become strained. Reinforcing his position means tying his closest collaborators to a long-term project at Anfield.

"Anyone that has just a year left on his contract does not have anything at all and I have only got a year and a half left," Benítez warned. "When people, either within the club or from outside it, realise that the manager only has that much time left then he is dead. I've got 10 or 12 assistants whose contracts are up in June. How can a manager lead a project properly if the continuity of his staff is not secure for two or three years?"

Benítez denied, however, that he sought total control of transfer dealings during his contract negotiations. "I would like to clear one thing up: I never asked for complete control," he said. "I did, however, ask for the power to be able to make my own decisions and run the team the way I see fit. That is not the same thing."

The Liverpool coach also defended his success at Anfield as his team compete for a first league title in 19 years, while renewing his attack on Sir Alex Ferguson. Economic constraints, he insisted, make challenging Manchester United and Chelsea a virtually impossible task.

"Manchester United make €65m a year more than we do and buy three £20m players a season," he said. "Chelsea must have spent £500m in five years. We have built a team but economically we are way below them and yet we have still managed to compete. In the five years I have been here I have spent less than £40m on Torres and Keane. How are we supposed to compete with them?

"We have never lost the ability to control games; what has been letting us down lately is our failure to kill games off. Our biggest problem is the huge expectations that people have. People talk about the league and that we have been 19 years without winning it – but then the Champions League turns up and we have to go all out for that as well," Benítez continued.

"Since I arrived we have won four titles, played in seven finals and reached a Champions League semi-final. We are where we should be. The problem is the anxiety and the desire to win everything and that is not easy."

As for the United manager, Benítez was once again unequivocal in his assessment. "Alex Ferguson controls everything in England. The facts are the facts. They are indisputable. When he started talking about Liverpool, I had to respond."

Benítez has previously been linked with a return to Real Madrid, where he managed the junior teams in the 1990s, but he said: "If I say that Madrid would be the icing on the cake for my career people will say I want to leave Liverpool. The right thing to say and the truth is that I am not thinking about leaving and I hope to be here for a long time but of course Real Madrid would be the perfect ending to anyone's career. But my career is not at an end yet."
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I really wish he would stop going on about Real Madrid every time there is a problem, he is the LIVERPOOL manager.

by **Sabre** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:16 pm

I wish the same thing, but since the interview is made by an AS journo and then translated to English, and the journo will ask him everytime about it, I'm afraid he'll have to keep answering that questions.

by **Bam** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:38 pm

Scottbot wrote:
GYBS wrote:How long has Mon been at the job ? 3-4 years now is it and now they are just threatening to break into the CL spots ?

I thought that this was only MON's 2nd season at Villa?

he's doing a tremendous job there. Look back in the archive threads in 2004 after Ged was fired and just about every post i made was championing O'neil for the Liverpool job. I was desperate for him to get the job.

It was all forgotten by Wednesday, May 25th, 2005 mind...

How the hell did England pass this guy up for Steve McLaren!?!?!?!?

No doubt O'neil is a good manager that cannot be disputed. But personally I dont like his route one style, and even though he's doing a good job at Villa like any manager its no gurantee he'd do the job here.

by **Igor Zidane** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:42 pm

s@int wrote:Sid Lowe The Guardian, Monday 16 February 2009

Rafael Benítez has urged Liverpool's American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett to secure his future at the club by offering contracts to his backroom staff. He has also hinted that if a solution is not found to his own contract issues by the summer, then his position will become unsustainable.

Benítez has been reluctant to sign a new deal with the club despite being offered two extensions. Although a financial package has been virtually agreed, the Spaniard wants greater control over the running of the club, as well as the freedom to choose and pursue his own transfer targets, effectively bypassing the chief executive, Rick Parry, with whom his relationship has become strained. Reinforcing his position means tying his closest collaborators to a long-term project at Anfield.

"Anyone that has just a year left on his contract does not have anything at all and I have only got a year and a half left," Benítez warned. "When people, either within the club or from outside it, realise that the manager only has that much time left then he is dead. I've got 10 or 12 assistants whose contracts are up in June. How can a manager lead a project properly if the continuity of his staff is not secure for two or three years?"

Benítez denied, however, that he sought total control of transfer dealings during his contract negotiations. "I would like to clear one thing up: I never asked for complete control," he said. "I did, however, ask for the power to be able to make my own decisions and run the team the way I see fit. That is not the same thing."

The Liverpool coach also defended his success at Anfield as his team compete for a first league title in 19 years, while renewing his attack on Sir Alex Ferguson. Economic constraints, he insisted, make challenging Manchester United and Chelsea a virtually impossible task.

"Manchester United make €65m a year more than we do and buy three £20m players a season," he said. "Chelsea must have spent £500m in five years. We have built a team but economically we are way below them and yet we have still managed to compete. In the five years I have been here I have spent less than £40m on Torres and Keane. How are we supposed to compete with them?

"We have never lost the ability to control games; what has been letting us down lately is our failure to kill games off. Our biggest problem is the huge expectations that people have. People talk about the league and that we have been 19 years without winning it – but then the Champions League turns up and we have to go all out for that as well," Benítez continued.

"Since I arrived we have won four titles, played in seven finals and reached a Champions League semi-final. We are where we should be. The problem is the anxiety and the desire to win everything and that is not easy."

As for the United manager, Benítez was once again unequivocal in his assessment. "Alex Ferguson controls everything in England. The facts are the facts. They are indisputable. When he started talking about Liverpool, I had to respond."

Benítez has previously been linked with a return to Real Madrid, where he managed the junior teams in the 1990s, but he said: "If I say that Madrid would be the icing on the cake for my career people will say I want to leave Liverpool. The right thing to say and the truth is that I am not thinking about leaving and I hope to be here for a long time but of course Real Madrid would be the perfect ending to anyone's career. But my career is not at an end yet."
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I really wish he would stop going on about Real Madrid every time there is a problem, he is the LIVERPOOL manager.

Here's the original interview with AS . Typical british newspapers twisting what he said about madrid .

Madrid would be the icing on the cake, the climax on your career?

- If I say yes, some people will interpret it as me saying I want to go; if I say no it will seem like a snub to Madrid…The proper thing and the reality is to answer that I’m not thinking about leaving and I hope I can stay here for a long time. Would Madrid be the icing on the cake in the career of any manager? No doubt about it! Although that sounds like the final stages of someone’s profession and that isn’t my case.

by **Sabre** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:53 pm

Checking the Spanish article, checking Igor's translation, and checking Sid Lowe's translation, I'd say that the most accurate one is the one that Igor has posted.

by **heimdall** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:56 pm

Scottbot wrote:
GYBS wrote:How long has Mon been at the job ? 3-4 years now is it and now they are just threatening to break into the CL spots ?

I thought that this was only MON's 2nd season at Villa?

he's doing a tremendous job there. Look back in the archive threads in 2004 after Ged was fired and just about every post i made was championing O'neil for the Liverpool job. I was desperate for him to get the job.

It was all forgotten by Wednesday, May 25th, 2005 mind...

How the hell did England pass this guy up for Steve McLaren!?!?!?!?

Well the answer to that is that the FA are a bunch of fecking clowns, well at least they've now got Capello in who is the first decent England manager since Robson in my opinion, Svenis had a decent start but faded very badly plus he's a bloody Swede :angry:

by **heimdall** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:58 pm

Sabre wrote:Checking the Spanish article, checking Igor's translation, and checking Sid Lowe's translation, I'd say that the most accurate one is the one that Igor has posted.

Hi Sabre, I'M BACK!!! :rasp

by **GYBS** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:59 pm

Bam wrote:
Scottbot wrote:
GYBS wrote:How long has Mon been at the job ? 3-4 years now is it and now they are just threatening to break into the CL spots ?

I thought that this was only MON's 2nd season at Villa?

he's doing a tremendous job there. Look back in the archive threads in 2004 after Ged was fired and just about every post i made was championing O'neil for the Liverpool job. I was desperate for him to get the job.

It was all forgotten by Wednesday, May 25th, 2005 mind...

How the hell did England pass this guy up for Steve McLaren!?!?!?!?

No doubt O'neil is a good manager that cannot be disputed. But personally I dont like his route one style, and even though he's doing a good job at Villa like any manager its no gurantee he'd do the job here.

Yep he loves his route one to a big man up front and speedy guys running of them - by passes the midfield all day long - not pretty to watch - so the guys that wnat attractive football MON and Maureen are defintely not the guys for them .

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