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pmsl My indictment of the rafa benitez regime
by NANNY RED » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:44 pm
NANNY RED wrote:Erm Mods i wanna report Barry, Bam, an now Saint, there getting on me nerves
IS THAT HOW YOU DO IT
You can take Saint off that list please mods he just showed me how to do it
He will keep for another day
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by NANNY RED » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:19 pm
Nice little in dept interview from AS mag i used that translator thingy
ENTREVISTA | Benítez INTERVIEW | Benitez
"No wonder Raul keep playing, it's winning as a child"
Rafa Benítez (Madrid, 1960) es el entrenador del Liverpool, cuya sombra se dibuja ya sobre el Bernabéu, la que fue su primera casa. Rafa Benitez (Madrid, 1960) is the coach of Liverpool, whose shadow is drawn and the Bernabéu, which was his first home.
Tomás Guasch | 15/02/2009
How’s the kidney?
Hush, hush! First they found a stone and then they said I had a perforation/hole in the kidney. I had to go through three general anesthetic procedures for the first time in my life. I missed our game at Arsenal’s pitch, first I’ve missed in 22 years. I had a very high fever on the eve of that game.
The first in 22 years…
The manager plays every match eh? I’m going all the way back to my days coaching Madrid’s youth teams. I started out very young. At 26 I was already managing.
You had to quit playing because of a knee injury.
It happened at the ‘Universada’ in Mexico, 1979. I was part of the Spanish quad that took part in that tournament. We beat Cuba 4-0 and then Canada showed up, I was hit from behind and goodbye it was. It was on the same day that Pietro Mennea, the great Italian sprinter, beat the 200 meter World Record with a mark of 19.72.
It stood for 17 years, until Michael Johnson beat it in 1996. And how good a player were you?
I could’ve played in Primera. Horacio de Leiva, our manager in Mexico and later the President of the School of Referees, proposed me to sign for Oviedo. I was playing for Real Madrid’s lower-division teams when Butragueño arrived. Chendo and Michel were also around. They were the good ones but every time they played for us we would lose. I played as a holding midfielder but I felt more comfortable playing as a ‘libero’. I had a better perspective of the game from that position.
You were already thinking like a manager.
At 13 years old I was already doing the team-sheets, I would rate the other lads. I liked to organize things even if it was just for my own enjoyment. At the INEF I was a player-manager. I would sit on the stands and manage the team and when I thought I needed to take part on the match I would go on the pitch. I was balancing that with managing Real Madrid’s youth team. You know what? My classes would end at 5 pm, which was the same time our training session started. I would rush through the halls and get there at about half-past with the stretching and warm-ups all done. Those of us who were not stars had to fight very hard to make a name for ourselves.
Yet, perhaps those were truly the happy days.
At that time you’re less aware of certain things. You’re so involved in everything that you don’t think…I remember that after the first month training Real Madrid’s youth team I was 4 kilos under my normal weight. I would eat in a hurry, a plate with lentils and off you go!, to train the team. And besides all that I was enrolled in the School of Medicine at Alcala de Henares.
You had to quit of course.
Yes, I couldn’t keep up. When I received the Honorary Degree at the University of Miguel Hernandez in Elche I was ecstatic because I always wanted to get my Doctorate at the INEF and I was never able to do so because of work. Sometimes I reflect back on those things and it all seems surreal. At Madrid I went months at a time working seven days a week, already as a manager. One day at Castilla ,the next day working alongside Garcia Remon with the first team, then coach the reserves in the lower divisions under the orders of Del Bosque, who was responsible for the whole setup… And I also taught at a school! And of course the games, I would watch as many as possible on the weekends, between 10 and 12.
And all of this with a girlfriend?
Impossible! That came afterward, when I was a bit more calm, ha, ha!
Who are you most grateful to?
Ramon Martinez (current General Manager at Celta) he promoted me every season. I will always be grateful to him and also I’ll always remember when Del Bosque told me: “There are no football managers, Rafa. There are people who manage football and you will manage for many years.”
He was right. If you got the chance at Liverpool it is because you proved your worth in Spain.
There were some moments, not every situation was the same. I arrived at Valencia after Cuper had done a terrific job there. The team was very strong and we just were able to raise the bar. At Tenerife and Extremadura it was different, both in Second Division and both times we won promotion. At Tenerife, competing with teams like Atletico, Sevilla and Betis.
What’s the problem now with the Liverpool owners?
England is different to Spain. Here, if you have a one year contract you have nothing…and I only have 18 months left. If people realize this, that the manager only has that time left, he’s dead. I have between ten and twelve collaborators whose contracts run out in June. What project can a manager develop if he doesn’t have his work-team secured for two or three years? Ah! And let’s clear up one thing: I never asked for absolute power; capacity to make decisions and to maneuver, yes. It’s not the same thing.
United and Chelsea have a lot more money than Liverpool. Even City now.
United get a revenue of 65 mil euros more than us every year and they have the capability of buying three 20 million players every season. Chelsea will have spent £500 million over the past five years. We have built an entire team but economically we’re inferior and yet we are able to compete with them. There are plenty of stats to bore you with: United, only on Berbatov, spent 32 million pounds; every year they spend as they need to: 20 mil on Hargreaves, another 20 on Nani, 18 for Anderson. Seven years ago they spent 45 for Ferdinand! I, on the five years I’ve been here, spent less than 40 on Torres and Keane. There’s no discussion!
And what about Arsenal Rafa?
It’s a different philosophy. They sign a lot of young players but if they must spend 7 mil on one, like Ramsey for example, they do it. Or 18 for Arshavin…
And Alex Ferguson?
He controls everything here, it’s a fact, it is what it is. And since he felt the need to talk about Liverpool I had to respond.
In your peculiar English.
I made the mistake of not taking up classes when I arrived. I lack the vocabulary and the grammar. My daughters speak with the purest Liverpool lingo and quite often I don’t understand what they’re saying. I end up asking them to speak to me in Spanish. Claudia, the oldest, was 6 when we arrived in Liverpool. At first she was lost but after six months she came home with a teacher’s note that read: “Congratulations, your daughter has recovered her voice”. She never stopped talking. Agata, the youngest, is six now. Her English is better than her Spanish.
And the food?
No problems there. I’m a meat-lover and Scottish meat is very good. And at home we never lack the Spanish dishes like paella, omelets or lentils.
And the public relations?
My wife does a better job than me. She belongs to a NGO that fights against cancer, she often visits a hospital and when I come along I do my bit. Most weeks we play 3 matches; I live in my own world, but it’s your family’s life that changes the most. I arrive at the club at 9 am and leave between 6 and 7 pm…I haven’t done much holiday traveling. I know Liverpool, Chester, the lakes area, to the north.
The big match against Madrid is only 10 days away. What are your expectations?
I have the experience of our games against Barça, who were the favourites then and we knocked them out. We were unlucky on the draw but so were Real. The outlook is different on each case: Madrid’s whole season rests on the Champions, we’re still fighting for the League. We’ll have to see in what condition some of the players arrive. Torres is still looking for his best form yet, for example.
When Everton knocked you out of the FA Cup you received it almost like a liberation. Is that so?
We have to find the positive side and that is that we’ll play less games and we can concentrate on the Premier and the Champions League. The Premier is very competitive, more so than La Liga. You have to be on top of your game or any team can make things difficult for you with their direct approach, they fight until the end. We’ve never lost control of the games but we’re lacking on finishing off teams. Our problem is that we have great expectations surrounding us. The Premier, the Premier, we haven’t won it in 19 years! And when the Champions League time comes, then lets win it…In these years we’ve won four titles, played in seven finals, another CL semifinal. We are where we need to be, the problem now is the anxiety, we have to manage it and it’s not always easy.
Gerrard is like Liverpool’s Raul? How’s he doing?
Recovering. Injuries happen and you need to treat them properly. And yes, you can compare him to Raul in many ways. He’s a charismatic footballer, with an enormous heart; his personality touches others. He always assumes responsibility and his effort never dwindles. Raul meets all these virtues and perhaps even more because of his longer experience. I’ve known him since he was 14 years old and he was at Atletico’s youth team. He’s always shined because of his character. I’m not surprised he’s still first-choice, he’s been a winner since he was a young lad.
Hows your relationship with Florentino?
Good.
Madrid would be the icing on the cake, the climax on your career?
If I say yes, some people will interpret it as me saying I want to go; if I say no it will seem like a snub to Madrid…The proper thing and the reality is to answer that I’m not thinking about leaving and I hope I can stay here for a long time. Would Madrid be the icing on the cake in the career of any manager? No doubt about it! Although that sounds like the final stages of someone’s profession and that isn't my case.
http://www.as.com/futbol....Tes
ENTREVISTA | Benítez INTERVIEW | Benitez
"No wonder Raul keep playing, it's winning as a child"
Rafa Benítez (Madrid, 1960) es el entrenador del Liverpool, cuya sombra se dibuja ya sobre el Bernabéu, la que fue su primera casa. Rafa Benitez (Madrid, 1960) is the coach of Liverpool, whose shadow is drawn and the Bernabéu, which was his first home.
Tomás Guasch | 15/02/2009
How’s the kidney?
Hush, hush! First they found a stone and then they said I had a perforation/hole in the kidney. I had to go through three general anesthetic procedures for the first time in my life. I missed our game at Arsenal’s pitch, first I’ve missed in 22 years. I had a very high fever on the eve of that game.
The first in 22 years…
The manager plays every match eh? I’m going all the way back to my days coaching Madrid’s youth teams. I started out very young. At 26 I was already managing.
You had to quit playing because of a knee injury.
It happened at the ‘Universada’ in Mexico, 1979. I was part of the Spanish quad that took part in that tournament. We beat Cuba 4-0 and then Canada showed up, I was hit from behind and goodbye it was. It was on the same day that Pietro Mennea, the great Italian sprinter, beat the 200 meter World Record with a mark of 19.72.
It stood for 17 years, until Michael Johnson beat it in 1996. And how good a player were you?
I could’ve played in Primera. Horacio de Leiva, our manager in Mexico and later the President of the School of Referees, proposed me to sign for Oviedo. I was playing for Real Madrid’s lower-division teams when Butragueño arrived. Chendo and Michel were also around. They were the good ones but every time they played for us we would lose. I played as a holding midfielder but I felt more comfortable playing as a ‘libero’. I had a better perspective of the game from that position.
You were already thinking like a manager.
At 13 years old I was already doing the team-sheets, I would rate the other lads. I liked to organize things even if it was just for my own enjoyment. At the INEF I was a player-manager. I would sit on the stands and manage the team and when I thought I needed to take part on the match I would go on the pitch. I was balancing that with managing Real Madrid’s youth team. You know what? My classes would end at 5 pm, which was the same time our training session started. I would rush through the halls and get there at about half-past with the stretching and warm-ups all done. Those of us who were not stars had to fight very hard to make a name for ourselves.
Yet, perhaps those were truly the happy days.
At that time you’re less aware of certain things. You’re so involved in everything that you don’t think…I remember that after the first month training Real Madrid’s youth team I was 4 kilos under my normal weight. I would eat in a hurry, a plate with lentils and off you go!, to train the team. And besides all that I was enrolled in the School of Medicine at Alcala de Henares.
You had to quit of course.
Yes, I couldn’t keep up. When I received the Honorary Degree at the University of Miguel Hernandez in Elche I was ecstatic because I always wanted to get my Doctorate at the INEF and I was never able to do so because of work. Sometimes I reflect back on those things and it all seems surreal. At Madrid I went months at a time working seven days a week, already as a manager. One day at Castilla ,the next day working alongside Garcia Remon with the first team, then coach the reserves in the lower divisions under the orders of Del Bosque, who was responsible for the whole setup… And I also taught at a school! And of course the games, I would watch as many as possible on the weekends, between 10 and 12.
And all of this with a girlfriend?
Impossible! That came afterward, when I was a bit more calm, ha, ha!
Who are you most grateful to?
Ramon Martinez (current General Manager at Celta) he promoted me every season. I will always be grateful to him and also I’ll always remember when Del Bosque told me: “There are no football managers, Rafa. There are people who manage football and you will manage for many years.”
He was right. If you got the chance at Liverpool it is because you proved your worth in Spain.
There were some moments, not every situation was the same. I arrived at Valencia after Cuper had done a terrific job there. The team was very strong and we just were able to raise the bar. At Tenerife and Extremadura it was different, both in Second Division and both times we won promotion. At Tenerife, competing with teams like Atletico, Sevilla and Betis.
What’s the problem now with the Liverpool owners?
England is different to Spain. Here, if you have a one year contract you have nothing…and I only have 18 months left. If people realize this, that the manager only has that time left, he’s dead. I have between ten and twelve collaborators whose contracts run out in June. What project can a manager develop if he doesn’t have his work-team secured for two or three years? Ah! And let’s clear up one thing: I never asked for absolute power; capacity to make decisions and to maneuver, yes. It’s not the same thing.
United and Chelsea have a lot more money than Liverpool. Even City now.
United get a revenue of 65 mil euros more than us every year and they have the capability of buying three 20 million players every season. Chelsea will have spent £500 million over the past five years. We have built an entire team but economically we’re inferior and yet we are able to compete with them. There are plenty of stats to bore you with: United, only on Berbatov, spent 32 million pounds; every year they spend as they need to: 20 mil on Hargreaves, another 20 on Nani, 18 for Anderson. Seven years ago they spent 45 for Ferdinand! I, on the five years I’ve been here, spent less than 40 on Torres and Keane. There’s no discussion!
And what about Arsenal Rafa?
It’s a different philosophy. They sign a lot of young players but if they must spend 7 mil on one, like Ramsey for example, they do it. Or 18 for Arshavin…
And Alex Ferguson?
He controls everything here, it’s a fact, it is what it is. And since he felt the need to talk about Liverpool I had to respond.
In your peculiar English.
I made the mistake of not taking up classes when I arrived. I lack the vocabulary and the grammar. My daughters speak with the purest Liverpool lingo and quite often I don’t understand what they’re saying. I end up asking them to speak to me in Spanish. Claudia, the oldest, was 6 when we arrived in Liverpool. At first she was lost but after six months she came home with a teacher’s note that read: “Congratulations, your daughter has recovered her voice”. She never stopped talking. Agata, the youngest, is six now. Her English is better than her Spanish.
And the food?
No problems there. I’m a meat-lover and Scottish meat is very good. And at home we never lack the Spanish dishes like paella, omelets or lentils.
And the public relations?
My wife does a better job than me. She belongs to a NGO that fights against cancer, she often visits a hospital and when I come along I do my bit. Most weeks we play 3 matches; I live in my own world, but it’s your family’s life that changes the most. I arrive at the club at 9 am and leave between 6 and 7 pm…I haven’t done much holiday traveling. I know Liverpool, Chester, the lakes area, to the north.
The big match against Madrid is only 10 days away. What are your expectations?
I have the experience of our games against Barça, who were the favourites then and we knocked them out. We were unlucky on the draw but so were Real. The outlook is different on each case: Madrid’s whole season rests on the Champions, we’re still fighting for the League. We’ll have to see in what condition some of the players arrive. Torres is still looking for his best form yet, for example.
When Everton knocked you out of the FA Cup you received it almost like a liberation. Is that so?
We have to find the positive side and that is that we’ll play less games and we can concentrate on the Premier and the Champions League. The Premier is very competitive, more so than La Liga. You have to be on top of your game or any team can make things difficult for you with their direct approach, they fight until the end. We’ve never lost control of the games but we’re lacking on finishing off teams. Our problem is that we have great expectations surrounding us. The Premier, the Premier, we haven’t won it in 19 years! And when the Champions League time comes, then lets win it…In these years we’ve won four titles, played in seven finals, another CL semifinal. We are where we need to be, the problem now is the anxiety, we have to manage it and it’s not always easy.
Gerrard is like Liverpool’s Raul? How’s he doing?
Recovering. Injuries happen and you need to treat them properly. And yes, you can compare him to Raul in many ways. He’s a charismatic footballer, with an enormous heart; his personality touches others. He always assumes responsibility and his effort never dwindles. Raul meets all these virtues and perhaps even more because of his longer experience. I’ve known him since he was 14 years old and he was at Atletico’s youth team. He’s always shined because of his character. I’m not surprised he’s still first-choice, he’s been a winner since he was a young lad.
Hows your relationship with Florentino?
Good.
Madrid would be the icing on the cake, the climax on your career?
If I say yes, some people will interpret it as me saying I want to go; if I say no it will seem like a snub to Madrid…The proper thing and the reality is to answer that I’m not thinking about leaving and I hope I can stay here for a long time. Would Madrid be the icing on the cake in the career of any manager? No doubt about it! Although that sounds like the final stages of someone’s profession and that isn't my case.
http://www.as.com/futbol....Tes
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by Scottbot » Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:20 pm
NANNY RED wrote:What’s the problem now with the Liverpool owners?
England is different to Spain. Here, if you have a one year contract you have nothing…and I only have 18 months left. If people realize this, that the manager only has that time left, he’s dead. I have between ten and twelve collaborators whose contracts run out in June. What project can a manager develop if he doesn’t have his work-team secured for two or three years? Ah! And let’s clear up one thing: I never asked for absolute power; capacity to make decisions and to maneuver, yes. It’s not the same thing.
I think that those guys who want the board to wait until the end of the season before resolving the contract situation should consider this quote. Whether you want the manager to stay beyond this season or not, the delays in getting a new contract sorted do our short-term chances of winning the title (this season) no good at all.
The sooner it gets put to bed the better as far as I can see.
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by maypaxvobiscum » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:34 pm
Bam wrote:I can see why your sig is so big Nan, do you have brail on the keyboard aswell ?
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by NANNY RED » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:47 pm
maypaxvobiscum wrote:Bam wrote:I can see why your sig is so big Nan, do you have brail on the keyboard aswell ?
Erm an what are you laughin for like. just poppin out of nowhere an laughing
Ive got a cob on the bitters are winnin 2-1 so take no notice of me Maxi
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by maypaxvobiscum » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:53 pm
NANNY RED wrote:maypaxvobiscum wrote:Bam wrote:I can see why your sig is so big Nan, do you have brail on the keyboard aswell ?
Erm an what are you laughin for like. just poppin out of nowhere an laughing
Ive got a cob on the bitters are winnin 2-1 so take no notice of me Maxi
i thought you didnt like pouts? why is Xabi pouting?
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by NANNY RED » Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:18 pm
maypaxvobiscum wrote:NANNY RED wrote:maypaxvobiscum wrote:Bam wrote:I can see why your sig is so big Nan, do you have brail on the keyboard aswell ?
Erm an what are you laughin for like. just poppin out of nowhere an laughing
Ive got a cob on the bitters are winnin 2-1 so take no notice of me Maxi
i thought you didnt like pouts? why is Xabi pouting?
Now you can
off , Bang out of order that Maxi slatin Xabi hes got nothing to do with this thread, So dont bring him into it or you will feel my wrathHE WHO BETRAYS WILL ALWAYS WALK ALONE
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by fittemod » Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:48 pm
jikes, first post and I've been reading through the last few pages which don't seem to have anything to do with the thread topic. Are there flame wars all the time on this forum or this just a weird situation?
Anyway in my opinion Rafa is doing a good'ish job so far this season, certainly we are looking better in the league.
Anyway in my opinion Rafa is doing a good'ish job so far this season, certainly we are looking better in the league.
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by aCe' » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:12 pm
wtf is wrong with the level of moderating on these boards sometimes... seriously its a fckin disgrace at times...
Heimdal gets banned because he chose to reply to a mod calling him (and others) kunts ?!
I get a card for telling lando to fck off back to bed after he came on and ruined this very thread by throwing around insults... but hey...they were mild insults and he already has 4 cards so he cant get carded unless he takes it to a whole new level...
many more but im guessing u all get the picture... fck that !
BigMick.. ur one of the better posters around and whether i agree with you or not u most certainly argue ur point well and u stick to posting footie more often than not... keep it up and dont let the little shtbags put u down...
Heimdal gets banned because he chose to reply to a mod calling him (and others) kunts ?!
I get a card for telling lando to fck off back to bed after he came on and ruined this very thread by throwing around insults... but hey...they were mild insults and he already has 4 cards so he cant get carded unless he takes it to a whole new level...
many more but im guessing u all get the picture... fck that !
BigMick.. ur one of the better posters around and whether i agree with you or not u most certainly argue ur point well and u stick to posting footie more often than not... keep it up and dont let the little shtbags put u down...
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by bigmick » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:58 pm
It was certainly an interesting place to be this thread yesterday. One of the pains in the erse about living in New Zealand is that often you're around when others aren't, and that was the case yesterday. Just me and three of the apparently many people who evidently think I'm a c...
It won''t go down as one of my favourite sessions on newkit, but there you go.
The one thing it did do was cause me to change my conviction. I gave it much thought, and I've given it much thought since. I'm not talking about rotation obviously because much as they hate it I was right on that one, they don't even bother arguing the point anymore. I'm also not talking about my impression that the draws earleir in the season would cost us in the end. They called me all sorts for saying it but they were wrong there as well. I'm not talking about my belief that we should change the manager even, nope I'm fairly set there and prepared to wait and see if the evidence makes it the right call or not. I hope I'm wrong on this one, but we'll see.
No, the bit where I've changed my mind is in the bit where I pledged to curt right back on posting, to give the people who are a bit more positive more chance to have their voices heard. I've changed my mind there for a couple of reasons. Firstly and formostly, because I don't like and never have liked bullies. It leaves a nasty taste in my mouth to see three or four people rounding on one, a man picking on a woman or people trying to get their own way by aggression. In real life I'd jump in on the side of the underdog, when the underdog is me I'm happy to stand my corner with the biggest and best. I don't run from people I'm too old and too slow for that, and there's a world of difference between me volunteering to take a back seat and stick to two threads, and being pushed on my way by a pack of baying no nowts.
So I retract my pledge yesterday to step aside. To Barry, if that was an apology I read from you earlier, I unreservedly accept. It's forgotten. If it wasn't an apology, it should be but no matter, what's done is done. Kazza I'll not mention as it wouldn't be fair as he's on my "ignore poster" list, and to Lando I will await our next discussion about football, I always think I'm playing at Home when we're talking there, and 3-0 up, and you've had two men sent off. GYBS has mentioned me in a few posts as well I notice this morning. "Mick this" and "Mick that". To him, I will repeat what I said yesterday and say that I actually quite like the fella. I have no axe to grind, he's obviously on a different side of the fence to me on both things, but that's OK. I didn't mean to upset you on your "poll" thread fella, it was a wind-up and where I come from once you start getting wind-ups, it proves people think you're alright. No bother if you don't think the same, what I think of you doesn't depend on what you think of me.
I don't do flame wars on the internet and I aren't going to start now. Lets move on.
It won''t go down as one of my favourite sessions on newkit, but there you go.
The one thing it did do was cause me to change my conviction. I gave it much thought, and I've given it much thought since. I'm not talking about rotation obviously because much as they hate it I was right on that one, they don't even bother arguing the point anymore. I'm also not talking about my impression that the draws earleir in the season would cost us in the end. They called me all sorts for saying it but they were wrong there as well. I'm not talking about my belief that we should change the manager even, nope I'm fairly set there and prepared to wait and see if the evidence makes it the right call or not. I hope I'm wrong on this one, but we'll see.
No, the bit where I've changed my mind is in the bit where I pledged to curt right back on posting, to give the people who are a bit more positive more chance to have their voices heard. I've changed my mind there for a couple of reasons. Firstly and formostly, because I don't like and never have liked bullies. It leaves a nasty taste in my mouth to see three or four people rounding on one, a man picking on a woman or people trying to get their own way by aggression. In real life I'd jump in on the side of the underdog, when the underdog is me I'm happy to stand my corner with the biggest and best. I don't run from people I'm too old and too slow for that, and there's a world of difference between me volunteering to take a back seat and stick to two threads, and being pushed on my way by a pack of baying no nowts.
So I retract my pledge yesterday to step aside. To Barry, if that was an apology I read from you earlier, I unreservedly accept. It's forgotten. If it wasn't an apology, it should be but no matter, what's done is done. Kazza I'll not mention as it wouldn't be fair as he's on my "ignore poster" list, and to Lando I will await our next discussion about football, I always think I'm playing at Home when we're talking there, and 3-0 up, and you've had two men sent off. GYBS has mentioned me in a few posts as well I notice this morning. "Mick this" and "Mick that". To him, I will repeat what I said yesterday and say that I actually quite like the fella. I have no axe to grind, he's obviously on a different side of the fence to me on both things, but that's OK. I didn't mean to upset you on your "poll" thread fella, it was a wind-up and where I come from once you start getting wind-ups, it proves people think you're alright. No bother if you don't think the same, what I think of you doesn't depend on what you think of me.
I don't do flame wars on the internet and I aren't going to start now. Lets move on.
"se e in una bottigla ed e bianco, e latte".
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- Rafa benitez miracle worker - Benitez v mourinho
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- Rafa benitez : a farewell tribute - "ta rafa la"
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by Redman in wales » Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:25 pm
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