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by **Number 9** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:44 am

bigmick wrote:
Number 9 wrote:Just out of interest though, what are you asking me for?

Because agitating you is better than peeling a raw banana,every day of the week..Maybe thats why?

Ah right, good one. Does peeling a raw banana take a bit of nouse and you've never actually managed to achieve it then? It's just not a phrase I'm familiar with sorry Baz.[/quote]

Im a Derek and Dereks dont run!!

by **Owzat** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:47 am

I'm not "pro" Rafa, I believe in backing the team and not getting on the back of the manager. But the manager has to be judged by results and he's had two good starts to a season of which one flopped pretty badly (last season) and this season is faltering. Whether to give him another season is a tricky one, with villa becoming more of a threat - even in my eyes - and citeh having so much money and idiot, including Hughes, can't fail but improve them with spending, then time may be a precious commodity and giving it to a manager who's drawn 30 of his last 101 Premiership games (29.7%) is a massive risk.

Of course judging him right now is a bit daft, he could yet win the Premiership. Realistically I don't reckon he has what it takes - squad, team, tactics and other skills. Will he have it next season? Squad and team maybe, but he won't change and his failings in tactics etc will remain, so he has to win the Premiership with them or in spite of them - that's a tall order in my book. Maybe he was just lucky in Spain, not lucky in the sense he didn't deserve it on merit, but lucky in the sense that his style etc worked at Valencia BUT this isn't Spain or Valencia. At the end of the season we'll know much more :

- If we've won the Premiership
- If we've not won the Premiership then if we've run it close

If we've not run it close then that's two good starts tossed away with no indication that Rafa can even run it close let alone win it. And people want to tie up his contract when he could be zero, six or 12 months from sacking?!?! We gave Houllier plenty of time, his "five year plan" didn't bear any fruit.

99/00 : 4th in Premiership, 24 points behind the Champions
00/01 : 3rd in Premiership, 11 points behind the Champions
01/02 : 2nd in Premiership, 7 points behind the Champions
02/03 : 5th in Premiership, 19 points behind the Champions (after a good start, sound familiar?)
03/04 : 4th in Premiership, 30 points behind the Champions

Houllier got one more chance than I'd have given him, the gap was worse than it had been since 93/94 when we finished 32 points behind the Champions albeit in a 42 game season. Rafa managed to record the worst gap between Liverpool and the Premiership champions of 37 points (04/05), we won the Champions League so that was not made into a big deal as his first season. Would I give Rafa one more chance? Let's see at the end of the season, the way it's going the current feeling I have is "not likely" - ranks about the same as our title chances this season and isn't unrelated to those chances....................

by **wtf** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:47 am

Scottbot wrote:This thread has got plain dumb

If it was only this thead that was dumb then fine, but why the hell was I banned? I want one of the mods to have some balls and explain it to the rest of the forum because I read through the rules and have no idea what rule I broke.

by **Owzat** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:48 am

Number 9 wrote:Im a Derek and Dereks dont run!!

They just fall off cliffs and land on their heads

by **Number 9** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:48 am

wtf wrote:
Scottbot wrote:This thread has got plain dumb

If it was only this thead that was dumb then fine, but why the hell was I banned? I want one of the mods to have some balls and explain it to the rest of the forum because I read through the rules and have no idea what rule I broke.

by **wtf** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:50 am

Number 9 wrote:
wtf wrote:
Scottbot wrote:This thread has got plain dumb

If it was only this thead that was dumb then fine, but why the hell was I banned? I want one of the mods to have some balls and explain it to the rest of the forum because I read through the rules and have no idea what rule I broke.

hmm yes, you are not trying to get into a flame war at all are you Number 9?

Ah what does it matter, you will most probably have a completely different opinion tomorrow anyway.

by **Number 9** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:51 am

Owzat wrote:
Number 9 wrote:Im a Derek and Dereks dont run!!

They just fall off cliffs and land on their heads

How do you know?

by **dawson99** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:55 am

What are you dirty hooers doing on my planet?

by **bigmick** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:55 am

So if the whinging about too may anti's fails, we then go for the abuse, then for the suffocation of any debate with nonsense. Each of JBG's contributions here are stark reminders of how good this forum can be sometimes. unfortunately those dizzy hieghts are rarely reached these days.

by **red37** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:57 am

This previously excellent thread has unfortunately gone the way of many a fair read lately.....halfway down the bog.

It would be great if everyone - (ALL) of you, could make an attempt to get it back on track with meaningful and relevant dialogue other than that which has plagued the last couple of pages.

Absolute bollox lads. Get it sorted.

by **bigmick** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:59 am

Red, are you saying that everyone has been equally culpable over the last three or four pages? Have you read it

by **Owzat** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:00 am

Number 9 wrote:
Owzat wrote:
Number 9 wrote:Im a Derek and Dereks dont run!!

They just fall off cliffs and land on their heads

How do you know?

I'd worked on the theory maybe you knew what you were quoting - maybe you don't

by **Number 9** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:03 am

Owzat wrote:
Number 9 wrote:
Owzat wrote:
Number 9 wrote:Im a Derek and Dereks dont run!!

They just fall off cliffs and land on their heads

How do you know?

I'd worked on the theory maybe you knew what you were quoting - maybe you don't

I kick a$$ in the name of the lord...whats that out of?

by **dawson99** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:04 am

They're not dead exactly, they're just... sort of rotting.

by **Number 9** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:07 am

dawson99 wrote:What are you dirty hooers doing on my planet?

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