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by **GYBS** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:33 pm

redrover wrote:theres a difference between slagging him of and putting forward an argument to why i have no faith in him anymore.

calling him an idiot ? thats an argument ?

And bungle i can see how people can see its a bad man management - maybe rafa and keane just couldnt get on - major personality clash that just didnt work with the club and something had to give ? Tbh rafa has not once come out and slagged of keane or anything and most of it in fact all off it has been down to the press .Most of the stuff has been pure speculation rumour gossip and shi te stirring by the press and many people have leapt on it .

by **banana** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:34 pm

i am delighted today. good piece of business by liverpool. now we have one problem less and more money.

keane was just another ziege.

walk on.

by **Bam** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:35 pm

supersub wrote:This thread proves Robbie Keane offered no lasting memories bar a couple of games, a few goals and bags full of fluffed sitters.

Which means Parry was wrong to buy him, and Rafa right in selling him. :laugh:

by **Scottbot** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:35 pm

GYBS wrote:Never said Rafa doesnt make mistakes and never had a problem saying as such but i certainly dont go around slagging him off to the extent that i have seen on here and will continue to back him cause despite making the odd mistake he is still great for the club and is the best we can have at this moment in time and the guy has got us challenging which is what i want to start with .

No but you go completely in the opposite direction (for the most part) refusing to acknowledge his mistakes and dismissing other poster's perfectly reasonable frustrations at every turn to the point where entire threads simply become 8-10 posters disagreeing with you or is it the other way around. Either way, it always seems to get very tedious and predictable.

by **redrover** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:36 pm

GYBS wrote:
redrover wrote:theres a difference between slagging him of and putting forward an argument to why i have no faith in him anymore.

calling him an idiot ? thats an argument ?

And bungle i can see how people can see its a bad man management - maybe rafa and keane just couldnt get on - major personality clash that just didnt work with the club and something had to give ? Tbh rafa has not once come out and slagged of keane or anything and most of it in fact all off it has been down to the press .

thats my opinion and ive backed it up with reasons rather than just slag him of for the sake of it.

by **crazyhorse** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:37 pm

When he arrived I thought that we could make him a better player and that he would be a great long term signing.. However when he became a little fish in a big pond and was no longer number one his shortcomings looked obvious...

by **GYBS** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:37 pm

Scottbot wrote:
GYBS wrote:Never said Rafa doesnt make mistakes and never had a problem saying as such but i certainly dont go around slagging him off to the extent that i have seen on here and will continue to back him cause despite making the odd mistake he is still great for the club and is the best we can have at this moment in time and the guy has got us challenging which is what i want to start with .

No but you go completely in the opposite direction (for the most part) refusing to acknowledge his mistakes and dismissing other poster's perfectly reasonable frustrations at every turn to the point where entire threads simply become 8-10 posters disagreeing with you or is it the other way around. Either way, it always seems to get very tedious and predictable.

Umm havent i just acknowlegde that rafas has made mistakes

and we are talking about keane so if you want to have pops at me suggest do it elsewhere or stick to what we are talking about .

by **dward** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:38 pm

GYBS wrote:It took keane 11 games to get scoring it think and he started in something like the first 16 games or so .

Scored in his 10th start. It was the 12th game of the season but he was on the bench for 2 of those games.

He started 13 of the first 16 games.

Someone else might have statistics for the rest - I was just getting those figures by looking at the match reports on .tv.

by **bunglemark2** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:38 pm

crazyhorse wrote:When he arrived I thought that we could make him a better player and that he would be a great long term signing.. However when he became a little fish in a big pond and was no longer number one his shortcomings looked obvious...

Wait a sec....let me look at that post through my sphinctre and it might make some sense....ehhh.....no, sorry - it's still complete b0ll0x....

by **GYBS** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:40 pm

dward wrote:
GYBS wrote:It took keane 11 games to get scoring it think and he started in something like the first 16 games or so .

Scored in his 10th start. It was the 12th game of the season but he was on the bench for 2 of those games.

He started 13 of the first 16 games.

Someone else might have statistics for the rest - I was just getting those figures by looking at the match reports on .tv.

Just remember seeing the goal on skysports earlier and them saying it had took him 11 games to score .

by **Rush Job** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:41 pm

I just cant believe this is Benitez`s decision, its the owners getting some money back before they fk off imo.
Think about it we are fighting on 3 fronts and we have a manager that likes to rotate, there is no way imo Rafa would ever consider selling an important player in an area we are weak with a couple of hours left on the deadline and no chance to bring some one in.
Its a good job city never put in a 80mill offer for Torres.

by **bunglemark2** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:42 pm

Rush Job wrote:I just cant believe this is Benitez`s decision, its the owners getting some money back before they fk off imo.
Think about it we are fighting on 3 fronts and we have a manager that likes to rotate, there is no way imo Rafa would ever consider selling an important player in an area we are weak with a couple of hours left on the deadline and no chance to bring some one in.
Its a good job city never put in a 80mill offer for Torres.

Don't be daft lad....suredon't we have Eggnog !

by **redrover** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:44 pm

bunglemark2 wrote:
Rush Job wrote:I just cant believe this is Benitez`s decision, its the owners getting some money back before they fk off imo.
Think about it we are fighting on 3 fronts and we have a manager that likes to rotate, there is no way imo Rafa would ever consider selling an important player in an area we are weak with a couple of hours left on the deadline and no chance to bring some one in.
Its a good job city never put in a 80mill offer for Torres.

Don't be daft lad....suredon't we have Eggnog !

eggnog is for christmas not for life

by **heimdall** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:45 pm

banana wrote:i am delighted today. good piece of business by liverpool. now we have one problem less and more money.

keane was just another ziege.

walk on.

What loosing £5million is good business then is it, WOW are you some kind of financial genius or something, buy high sell low, all that kind of stuff yeah?

BTW there is absolutely no way that Rafa was forced into this sale, if he had been he would have been winging to the press already or there would be some Ballague exclusive by now!

I think this finally proves that Rafa has completely lost the plot and in my books he is now officially a fool, and I have zero respect for him as a manager.

by **Kharhaz** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:45 pm

Rush Job wrote:I just cant believe this is Benitez`s decision, its the owners getting some money back before they fk off imo.
Think about it we are fighting on 3 fronts and we have a manager that likes to rotate, there is no way imo Rafa would ever consider selling an important player in an area we are weak with a couple of hours left on the deadline and no chance to bring some one in.
Its a good job city never put in a 80mill offer for Torres.

If that was the case, im pretty sure we would have seen many more leaving the club. Thats why its a strange one.

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