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by **NANNY RED** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:32 pm

Summs up the Keane thingy

by **we all dream...** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:32 pm

supersub wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:At least we won't be getting moaners moaning about what a bad signing he was, or how sh*t he is, or how he misses too many chances anymore.

Those same moaners are moaning that he has been sold

"They'll Never Moan Alone"

moaning that he hasnt been replaced....... Selling him is fine, he wasnt doing very well. Maybe he should have been given more of a chance yes bt if Rafa wants rid then so bit it. But it is criminal that he hasnt been replaced.

I think we may be able to do OK with out a decent second choice striker but it may not be the case and if it isnt it is poor poor managment of the club I love. I dont no whos decision it was but if torres breaks don again and we have problems scoring then someone needs to take the blame be it rafa rick, both. The yanks or all 3.

I just hope things carry on they way they were yesterday, fantastic day awesome gaem wonderfu result and a great day in th pub. This has brought me back down with a bump.

Come on red men keep marching.

by **Emerald Red** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:36 pm

Well, for lack of a batter phrase, it's a big shit sambo and everyone has to take a bite out of it, so f*ck it. We're gonna win the league.

by **redrover** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:36 pm

yeh i wonder why that is gybs. cause hes shown himself to be an idiot maybe. stupid substitutions. playing that waste of space kuyt week in week out lyin that keane was staying and part of his plans etc etc that might be some of the reason dont you think

by **GYBS** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:39 pm

And god forbid getting us challenging for the title - something we have all wanted for years now and something we havent got close too for years wow what an idiot. and maybe rafa did want keane in his plans yesterday but things changed .

by **Sabre** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:44 pm

Ok just trying to understand this situation.

What could have possibly forced Rafa to let Keane go:

* Him not being good enough: No, he's kept players like Voronin longer than that and our front line is not our forte, if we lose Torres we'd have the fire power of a mid table team.

* Keane shagging some other players wife? It has happened more than once in many clubs, in that case you make peace now, and you sell in summer

* Keane not accepting to be a sub? That would be shocking from a childhood red, and we've seen great players like Mascherano being subbed with a big dignity. Alonso accepted with dignity not being considered key any more. It can't be that.

So the only reasonable explanation is Rafa being forced by the Yanks to sell Keane for economic reasons. Other than that, it's impossible to understand.

by **we all dream...** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:46 pm

GYBS wrote:And god forbid getting us challenging for the title - something we have all wanted for years now and something we havent got close too for years wow what an idiot. and maybe rafa did want keane in his plans yesterday but things changed .

Well said. people need to start having a balanced view on things here. I am disapointed he has left cos i think that he could have done OK. But Rafa kows best and its better to get rid now when we can make a bi more money back, also not have the press disruping things by constantly going on about the fude they have been having.

My only issue is that we havent got a replacement and I am worried that it may come to bight us in the :censored:

... I hope that this isnt rafa fault and that he wanted to sell 2weeks ago so he could get a replacement and Parry, as it seems often hapens, has :censored:

it up. Cos i think Rafa isthe man to lead us forwards.

So, look at the bigger picture, Rafa by hook crook luck or sheer brilliance has us closest to a title than we have been for a long time. Back the manager back the players back the club. YNWA

by **tonyeh** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:49 pm

Well, good luck to Robbie. It just wasn't to be.

While he didn't completely shine in his limited time on the pitch, this period will always be a black stain on Liverpool FC. He was handled in a dispicable manner by Benitez, from beginning to end.

What we're left with now is one real striker for the rest of the season and that may come back to haunt us badly.

A bloody shambles.

by **Mikz** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:50 pm

Challenging for the title is one thing
WINNING it is something else... the remainder of the season will show how close we really are , now that we are nearing the last bend
A very poor chelsea side in comparison with the last few years and an injury torn arsenal team is making it a lot easier

by **Greavesie** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:51 pm

His first goal. Loved it when he scored that, really felt happy for him and he did his trademark celebration! End of the day we were all rooting for him to do well at this club and it hasn't worked out.

Good luck Robbie Keane, no hard feelings

by **Zidane** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:52 pm

Sabre wrote:Ok just trying to understand this situation.

What could have possibly forced Rafa to let Keane go:

* Him not being good enough: No, he's kept players like Voronin longer than that.

* Keane shagging some other players wife? It has happened more than once in many clubs, in that case you make peace now, and you sell in summer

* Keane not accepting to be a sub? That would be shocking from a childhood red, and we've seen great players like Mascherano being subbed with a big dignity. Alonso accepted with dignity not being considered key any more. It can't be that.

So the only reasonable explanation is Rafa being forced by the Yanks to sell Keane for economic reasons. Other than that, it's impossible to understand.

Don't make it so complex Sabre, it was some sort of personal vendetta for Rafa, clearly.

Other than that.. The only possible reason I can think of is that they believed we would never get that amount of money back for him. So they said feck it, we'll take our chances in the league, FA cup and CL with one striker then strengthen the squad in the summer for next year. Which is the best decision cause we won't win anything this year anyway.. :no

It is a good decision for next year, but who knows what will happen then. We're in second place in a great position to win it all so when you put everything together it sets us back for this season.

by **JoeTerp** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:52 pm

Sabre wrote:Ok just trying to understand this situation.

What could have possibly forced Rafa to let Keane go:

* Him not being good enough: No, he's kept players like Voronin longer than that and our front line is not our forte, if we lose Torres we'd have the fire power of a mid table team.

* Keane shagging some other players wife? It has happened more than once in many clubs, in that case you make peace now, and you sell in summer

* Keane not accepting to be a sub? That would be shocking from a childhood red, and we've seen great players like Mascherano being subbed with a big dignity. Alonso accepted with dignity not being considered key any more. It can't be that.

So the only reasonable explanation is Rafa being forced by the Yanks to sell Keane for economic reasons. Other than that, it's impossible to understand.

what about leaving Keane on the bench was causing too much of a distraction than it was worth?

Also, with such a heavy investment, it might be worth cutting off the risk now before his price fell any further

WIth a player like Voronin who was brought in on a free, it doesn't make much difference in price

by **redrover** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:52 pm

GYBS wrote:And god forbid getting us challenging for the title - something we have all wanted for years now and something we havent got close too for years wow what an idiot. and maybe rafa did want keane in his plans yesterday but things changed .

challenging for the title. we were 7 points ahead a couple of weeks ago til his rants etc . we will revisit this in the next few weeks and see if we're still "challenging"

by **puroresu** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:55 pm

No way was rafa forced to sell. If the money wasnt there the deal would never of been sanctioned in the 1st place.

by **GYBS** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:56 pm

redrover wrote:
GYBS wrote:And god forbid getting us challenging for the title - something we have all wanted for years now and something we havent got close too for years wow what an idiot. and maybe rafa did want keane in his plans yesterday but things changed .

challenging for the title. we were 7 points ahead a couple of weeks ago til his rants etc . we will revisit this in the next few weeks and see if we're still "challenging"

yes 7 points clear with the mancs having two games in hand .

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