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by **Ciggy** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:13 am

bigmick wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Quote from The Daily post this morning from Rafa.

“I can guarantee that 90% of the players – I can’t say 100% – are just talking about football.” what does this mean

"Yes but it doesn't prove anything. How can you know he means that the players aren't 100% behind him. He could mean anything, maybe the players were talking about something else entirely but will talk about football later. The players are probably discussing where they'll all go if Rafa leaves, as many have already said they'll be the first out of the door. Which top manager will manage us anyway, and if Rafa had signed his first choices how do we know they wouldn't talk about football all the time. How do you know it isn't just the Parry signings who are not talking about football? "

There ya go GYBS, change it into red (sorry i don't know how to do that) and it'll save you typing it out

very good

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:14 am

GYBS wrote:Do people really think that Rafa wants to go to madrid where he will have no control whatsoever ?

Yes Rafa may of made mistakes in transfers or with subs and during the game but no people questioning his loyalty and integrity as well ?

Well it seems that Rafa is falling behind Souness in the eyes of some people ?

I have great respect for souness for what he achieved here as a player, trying to drag him into it to try and get brownie points for rafa, what a tard

as a manager rafa is better than souness, as a liverpool legend rafa doesnt even come close to souness

by **GYBS** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:15 am

And are you feeling ok Mick ? you managed to post something that wasnt 28 paragraphs long - go on about mass rotation or gazelle effect etc etc etc ? something you ate or a bit tired

by **GYBS** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:16 am

peewee wrote:
GYBS wrote:Do people really think that Rafa wants to go to madrid where he will have no control whatsoever ?

Yes Rafa may of made mistakes in transfers or with subs and during the game but no people questioning his loyalty and integrity as well ?

Well it seems that Rafa is falling behind Souness in the eyes of some people ?

I have great respect for souness for what he achieved here as a player, trying to drag him into it to try and get brownie points for rafa, what a tard

as a manager rafa is better than souness, as a liverpool legend rafa doesnt even come close to souness

Who is talking about playing and legend - im talking about as manager of liverpool football club and people like yourself are now questioning his respect for the club and his integrity without any proof or basis or fact to back up what your suggesting.

by **bigmick** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:18 am

GYBS wrote:And are you feeling ok Mick ? you managed to post something that wasnt 28 paragraphs long - go on about mass rotation or gazelle effect etc etc etc ? something you ate or a bit tired

Very perceptive mate I'm knackered tonight. I won me local poker tournament on Tuesday (first time victorious, 38 entries) and I think it took it out of me.

Don't mind me taking the p!ss, no offence intended.

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:19 am

GYBS wrote:And are you feeling ok Mick ? you managed to post something that wasnt 28 paragraphs long - go on about mass rotation or gazelle effect etc etc etc ? something you ate or a bit tired

feel free to prove you are right or feel free to prove I am wrong.

you argument always seem to based on others conjecture without realising that your own comments are purely your opinion, haven't you noticed this yet?

by **Sabre** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:21 am

"The second half was a crazy game and when it is a crazy game you cannot control things."

"No I am disappointed with a number of things but no, the Wigan approach I will not talk about them"

What does he mean by "you can't control things"?

Sometimes Milou it seems Rafa speaks in english but thinks in Spanish, because those words have sense in Spanish when translated literally.

By "Crazy" we call a game in which constant attacks and counter attacks happen, we also call that a "Broken" game.

The things that had in common the last 3 games were 3 individual and collective mistakes that made possible the goal.

My point is Milou, that there may be problems in the club, that surely there are things that Rafa has to sort out, but when I analyze those words I don't see strange signs of players not listening to the manager, rather, quite conventional footie words coming from a Spanish coach.

by **Ciggy** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:26 am

Maybe his cryptic messages are not so cryptic and its just that english is not his native tongue no one knows.

No one knows if he is engineering a move to Madrid, but its a possibility.

No one knows if Kuyts mother has pictures of rafa in an uncrompromising position taken 28 years ago in Katwijk on sea.

No one knows if Rafa's dislike for babel stems from his daughter Agatha singing about hoe's and hommies on her ipod.

No one knows anything for certain its just second guessing because he is so hard to figure out.

by **milou** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:28 am

Sabre wrote:
"The second half was a crazy game and when it is a crazy game you cannot control things."

"No I am disappointed with a number of things but no, the Wigan approach I will not talk about them"

What does he mean by "you can't control things"?

Sometimes Milou it seems Rafa speaks in english but thinks in Spanish, because those words have sense in Spanish when translated literally.

By "Crazy" we call a game in which constant attacks and counter attacks happen, we also call that a "Broken" game.

The things that had in common the last 3 games were 3 individual and collective mistakes that made possible the goal.

My point is Milou, that there may be problems in the club, that surely there are things that Rafa has to sort out, but when I analyze those words I don't see strange signs of players not listening to the manager, rather, quite conventional footie words coming from a Spanish coach.

Thanks Sabre for the short lesson on Spanish.

But how about this?

“I can guarantee that 90% of the players – I can’t say 100% – are just talking about football.”

Any Spanish explanation that proves it is not what we ALL think it is?

Jokes aside.. it is obviously NOT looking good between Rafa and some players.. and my guess it is Gerrard (hence Gerrard's BIZARRE substitution, which is unexplainable tactically), possibly also Carra, Keane and even more.

by **bigmick** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:29 am

Ciggy wrote:Maybe his cryptic messages are not so cryptic and its just that english is not his native tongue no one knows.

No one knows if he is engineering a move to Madrid, but its a possibility.

No one knows if Kuyts mother has pictures of rafa in an uncrompromising position taken 28 years ago in Katwijk on sea.

No one knows if Rafa's dislike for babel stems from his daughter Agatha singing about hoe's and hommies on her ipod.

No one knows anything for certain its just second guessing because he is so hard to figure out.

"but how you can say for certain that nobody knows? Maybe somebody does but they aren't saying. Maybe if you were in Melwood then you'd know, and then maybe you'd say but you can't as your not and you don't...."

by **tubby** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:30 am

This toplc is pants. How are any of us really meant to be able to find out what is happening behind the scenes. :laugh:

The only thing we have to go by is paper talk which is partially bs anyway.

by **Ciggy** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:30 am

bigmick wrote:

"but how you can say for certain that nobody knows? Maybe somebody does but they aren't saying. Maybe if you were in Melwood then you'd know, and then maybe you'd say but you can't as your not and you don't...."

First time Ive had a smile on me face since wednesday night

by **Sabre** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:44 am

“I can guarantee that 90% of the players – I can’t say 100% – are just talking about football.”

Any Spanish explanation that proves it is not what we ALL think it is?

This is Spanish for, I have an united dressroom bar one or two cúnts that will be dealt with soon enough.

Milou, at the end of the day, trying to interpret words from a manager is not an easy science.

by **milou** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:49 am

bavlondon wrote:This toplc is pants. How are any of us really meant to be able to find out what is happening behind the scenes.

The only thing we have to go by is paper talk which is partially bs anyway.

Then we should shut this forum at once!

Since we don't know for sure...

...that Rafa is a genius who is just testing our patience or he has bet his whole house on Man Utd this season?

...that Torres is not the best but the luckiest striker EVER?

...that 4-5-1 is better than 4-4-2, which is better than 4-3-3?

...that Keane is just a s'hit player or deliberately missed sitters just to p.iss Rafa off?

...that mass rotation is responsible for our failure or success?

...that we would win, draw with or lose to Chelsea on Sunday?

Why debate since everything is subjective!? Go check Wikipedia for facts.. provided you first trust the content is fact! :laugh:

by **LegBarnes** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:23 am

Sabre wrote:
“I can guarantee that 90% of the players – I can’t say 100% – are just talking about football.”

Any Spanish explanation that proves it is not what we ALL think it is?

This is Spanish for, I have an united dressroom bar one or two cúnts that will be dealt with soon enough.

Milou, at the end of the day, trying to interpret words from a manager is not an easy science.

who are the 2 c*nts as you so nicely put it tho ?

I could guess keane might be one but the other 1-2 is who ?

gerrard for being subed ?

If it was him and carra then it don't matter about the % he has lost control.

But then agian could be reading waaaay to much into it. :down:

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