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by **dawson99** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:52 pm

He should go when he doesnt have our best interests at heart. The question is on when we think hes not got the best interest. Got to support him 110% in my opinion as we are liverpool, he is liverpool, we got to work together

by **Alex G.** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:58 pm

I support rafa, but....if he thinks we gonna win the title with players like Leiva and bombing the rival box with long balls he is so wrong.

by **we all dream...** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:12 pm

I have argued for Rafa so many time and will continue to do so... the problem is it is becoming increasingly difficult. SOme of his decisions have left me puzzled at best. I hope there is nothing going on behind the scenes that is cuasing these strange moves and odd outbursts. Unfortunately I can see Rafa doing things in public in the media and with the team to wind the back room staff / board up and if this is the case it is out of order and he is scuppering our title chances because things aren't going to well at the moment.

What I will say is this. Rafa Benetez is a very good manager and last year most people, more than do now, thought he was the man for the job, his abilty cannot have changed drasticlly. He can still win us the title but if he doesnt we should look at our options.

In the mean time, "In Rafa I, as no longer we, trust."

by **Alex G.** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:15 pm

dawson99 wrote:He should go when he doesnt have our best interests at heart. The question is on when we think hes not got the best interest. Got to support him 110% in my opinion as we are liverpool, he is liverpool, we got to work together

I suspect he´ll go at the end of the season.

by **Feugo** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:25 pm

Alex G. wrote:I suspect he´ll go at the end of the season.

Its about time.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:28 pm

bavlondon wrote:This season he has himself to blame by throwing the club out of focus with his contract business. If it were a player he would say wait till the summer to discuss it yet he maks a point to let everyone know he has rejected it midway into a season. You could argue that he he knew that would destabalise the team and he is showing the owners what happens if he doesnt get his way. Sounds like a crazy idea doesnt it but Rafa is a calculating man so I think he knew this would happen and wanted it to happen this way.

Don't you get it? Rafa has done what he set out to do - take the pressure off the players and put it on him.

Was it you who lauded Mourinho a genius when he did the same thing at Chelsea?

by **Madmax** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:38 pm

since the mannure rant fergie must be laughing now considering how we have gone down and mannure over taken us with a possible 5 point lead.. just pathetic..

by **dawson99** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:40 pm

Madmax wrote:since the mannure rant fergie must be laughing now considering how we have gone down and mannure over taken us with a possible 5 point lead.. just pathetic..

the manure rant as you say it was
a: not a rant
b: facts

He got his point across. And I'm finding myself agreeing with Lando 100% lately, very scary

by **Madmax** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:43 pm

Yeah he got his point across very well..... Must have been those facts that have pushed mannure above us. Must have have pi$$ed of red nosed fergie. I think they have backfired.

by **dawson99** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:45 pm

Madmax wrote:Yeah he got his point across very well.....

At the time, when he said it, did you read the boards? Not just from our club, from clubs all over the land. Yes, he got his point across perfectly. At no point in his 'rant' did he say we would win every game. He was talking about Fergie, not us, and what he said needed to be said.

by **GYBS** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:49 pm

So the amount of people wanting rafa sacked at the end of the season if we dont win the league has shot up after last night ?

by **eonerf** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:15 pm

bavlondon wrote:The difference between us and them is that they always buy top quality players where as we buy mostly average quality players but now and again buy some top quality players. How many players from Utd based on quality would get into our squad? Probably most of them. How many of our players would get into their 1st team? You could count them on 1 hand.

tbh I kinda disagree. When Mourinho was manager of Chelsea he made some good signings like Drogbra, Carvalho and Essien but he also made poor signings like Boulahrouz, Ferreira, Kezman. Same thing with the greats such as Fergie and Wenger. Wenger has dug some total gems but also signed some awful players like Cygan, Sendros while Fergie brought :censored:

such as Djemba-Djemba and Kléberson.

Rafa has made some dreadful decisions in the transfer market but he also signed great players so tbh all these managers are in the same boat. The difference is that Fergie can afford constantly shelling out £30M, Mourhino did a great job with the squad he inherited while Wenger has the ability to turn a decent player into a great one.

by **eonerf** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:17 pm

dawson99 wrote:
Madmax wrote:since the mannure rant fergie must be laughing now considering how we have gone down and mannure over taken us with a possible 5 point lead.. just pathetic..

the manure rant as you say it was
a: not a rant
b: facts

He got his point across. And I'm finding myself agreeing with Lando 100% lately, very scary

This is what I've been saying to people but nobody wants to listen to the truth.

by **GYBS** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:17 pm

good post - when rafa has been able to spend big on one player - ie mash - xabi - torres for example they have alwayd been good buys . and as you say maureen taggert and wenger have all made some bloody awful buys .

by **Effes** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:28 pm

oakton wrote:The major problem with Rafa is that he does not put the best team on the pitch and we are continuing to not winning games like this.

That's my biggest gripe with Rafa.

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