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by **Number 9** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:04 pm

I'm not talking about down South mate.I was talking about here.
It's a fact that parents would not go to police as they were in their minds occupants in their territory and not to be trusted.Back then the RUC was about 95% maybe more protestant and unionist.
My point was meant to be that the reason it was allowed to go on for so long was because of parents reluctance to report it to someone that could have acted as opposed to the church who chose to let it go on rather than face shame.
My over riding point is that I don't have any respect for the Catholic Church because they shielded perverts rather than loose face in the community.Yes they shipped priests out of certain places that were at it but only on to somewhere else were another vulnerable kid fell victim to his dirty lust.

I know of one kid,well I know his parents that was abused by a priest.The things that were done to that kid!
:no

Made to lick (well you know) off a bible etc etc etc.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:34 pm

damn that is sick! really sick

by **Effes** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:03 pm

Sabre wrote:
ISpain is heavily influenced by religion,

Supits, you mean in the past right? The typical Spaniard is very cynical towards catholicism.

For a young Spaniard it's not fashionable to be Catholic. Note that our last dictator's policy was ultra conservative and ultracatholic,

Sabre - I think that if Franco was not in power during Second World War,
then Spain could have been dragged into it.

So in an ironic kind of way - he saved the country from such a fate.

Your thoughts?

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:21 am

dawson99 wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:
2) your right to smoke VS my right to breathe.

2: My right to smoke should win. I pay so much more in taxes. Smoking outside. Obviously should be allowed. And if a landlord owns a pub and wants to let people smoke in it, he should be allowed to do so. Don't show me figures of how much it costs hospitals per year for tobacco related deseases... i still say cars have a lot to do with it as well. If around 10 million smoke... lets say 15 a day. £4.50 a pack of 20... 273 packs each a year. avg 1228.5 per person per year... now times that by 10 million. Say half of it is tax, thats 6114.25 i pay in tax a year, as do my 10 million other smokers. So yeah, let me the fukk smoke.

im very against the idea cause
1) bad for the health of others' around you for sure man come on 2nd hand smoke is so much worse then smoking itself.
2) doesnt smell good though i know one which smells like strawberry...a burnt one.
3) harmful to the environment, ozone layer and all

by **metalhead** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:17 am

I got a new topic

1) Do you think the massacering of 300 palestinians by Israel air raids in 2 days justified? or a barbaric act of humanity?

I know what I think :sniffle

by **Emerald Red** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:34 am

metalhead wrote:I got a new topic

1) Do you think the massacering of 300 palestinians by Israel air raids in 2 days justified? or a barbaric act of humanity?

I know what I think

Is it any different to what the Nazi's did to their own in the second world war? It's a crime against humanity in the same way the Holocaust was. Systematic genocide coated in red tape and that's basically all there is to it. "It's a war on Terror" they will say. It's not a war crime.

Palestine is the biggest prison camp in the world, yet the world will do nothing.

by **metalhead** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:37 am

And us arabs won't do a thing either, we just watch our beloved friends there get murdered, a shame really

by **Kharhaz** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:49 am

maypaxvobiscum wrote:1) should taxes be used for religious education?

2) your right to smoke VS my right to breathe.

3) should religious people attempt to convert others to their faith?

1.) No. It should be down to parents to decide. As christening your kids is your choice, RE should also be. As a kid I was offered (out of 3) 2 choices, RE, Geography and History. I chose RE and Geography. I regret my first one. Totally pointless. Even after being educated in RE I struggle to find the point in what I learned.

2.) A case of, is my free will better than yours? You have people who dont smoke whinging about people who do, raising the question you raise. You also have those same people driving there car spewing exhaust fumes and toxins into the air that we are all forced to pay for through our "carbon footprint". Greenhouse gases and the like, guess what smokers are not the main cause of this but do you hear smokers whinge about people who drive massive cars causing harm to the environment? No, because its down to choice. Or at least it used to be.

3.) Should non-smokers force on others the benefits of not smoking? same kind of thing really isnt it?

by **Sabre** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:48 am

Effes wrote:
Sabre wrote:
ISpain is heavily influenced by religion,

Supits, you mean in the past right? The typical Spaniard is very cynical towards catholicism.

For a young Spaniard it's not fashionable to be Catholic. Note that our last dictator's policy was ultra conservative and ultracatholic,

Sabre - I think that if Franco was not in power during Second World War,
then Spain could have been dragged into it.

So in an ironic kind of way - he saved the country from such a fate.

Your thoughts?

Sorry, I forgot to read this thread. It's a bit generous towards Franco to say he saved Spain from draggin to the war.

(1)

The fact is they met each other in Hendaya, a small town near San Sebastian.

Franco was more than ready to enter the war provided that Hitler allowed him to grab part of the cake, Franco asked the French Morocco to be Spain after the war.

But luckily, the greed of Hitler who didn't accept that petition, offended Franco and we kept out of it.

So Franco was a grade A twát and was more than ready to commit to the war further than we did with the shameful Blue Division, even if the country was devastated. (All must be said, there were also batallions of spanish soldiers liberating Paris).

So Franco is no saviour, Franco is the reason we're behind other european nations. A shame for all of us, because normally in Spain we killed the dictators and the tyrants, but in this case we didn't fight hard enough and we allowed him to stay in power until he died.

(1) A note that Woof might find funny. As you know woof, officials have a sabre when they are officials. Well, Franco is so small, that his sabre is shorter than normal, it was made for him

this is true eh?

by **Number 9** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:00 pm

metalhead wrote:I got a new topic

1) Do you think the massacering of 300 palestinians by Israel air raids in 2 days justified? or a barbaric act of humanity?

I know what I think

Both as bad as eachother IMO!
Israel just have superior bombs and a better army which is unfortunate for Palestine.If Hamas had the means the would be doing just as much damage to Israel as its receiving now..theres no doubt about that.
Looks like Israel are gonna mount a land attack now as well.Its sad that civilians have died and a pity that both sides cannot accept eachothers right to exist.
If Israel go in theres only one side gonna come off worse.

by **Sabre** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:02 pm

Metalhead: I know it's been the bloodiest attack since 1967, and in Spain we don't buy the Israeli lies.

Can you explain me though those repots who talk about anger against Mubarak and Egypt? what they have to blame to them ?

by **metalhead** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:17 pm

Egypt have closed the border between them and Palestine before the attacks, during the Israeli blockade of Gaza, where the people had no food, water or even electricity, the Israeli army didn't let any aid in, the egyptian made it worst when they closed the borders, they didn't let any Palestinian civilians go to Egypt to get some medical help or other assistance, so many starved to death (This is during the 18 month blockade and so called ''truce'' between Hamas and Israel).

Mubarak is a criminal, he is helping them die there, he is okay with Israel bombing the living hell out of them, and he is closing the borders not let any Palastenians receive any help! Israel are merciless!

Barry mate, Its been 60 years of oppression mate, Israel wants peace through violence and massacres, even the former prime minister Sharon said that we use war to gain peace (peace in their own terms, that would benefit them, not the Palestinians or any other). Hamas was created in 1987, because of the oppression, I know they aren't innocent as many believe are, they also have to be part of the blame in whats happening, but what do they have that Israel have in weaponry? They retaliated because of the air rades, Israel broke the truce long time ago because of its blockade on Gaza.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:34 pm

how did the entire beef start MH?

by **metalhead** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:44 pm

When Israel occupied Palestine back in 1948

by **Judge** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:39 pm

havent isrealites been in palestine since 32AD ?

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