Solving the unemployment issue, - For those who are struggling!

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Postby JoeTerp » Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:26 pm

s@int wrote:Yeah but theres no reason to encourage them, but it probably wouldn't make much difference anyway, as soon as anyone went on a motorway they would probably be killed by all the idiots going at 150mph the wrong way! :D

well because of no public property, all the roads would be private, and hence enforced by the owners and far worse than a ticket, you could see yourself banned from a road if you were driving 150mph the wrong way.
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Postby andy_g » Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:34 am

s@int wrote:
andy_g wrote:anybody been to look around williamson's tunnels? he 'solved' the problem of thousands of unemployed and desperate soldiers returning from the crimean by paying them to dig a series of tunnels under liverpool. he was a philanthropist but was troubled by the idea of giving people money for doing nothing.

i'm sure his ideas and enthusiasm could be brought up to date in the face of growing unemployment, people feeling a lack of purpose in their lives and the impending global crisis. i'm thinking along the lines of larger urban community farms. get people working and growing food in the allotments, in the parks and in any green space that can be put to good use. it would be productive and go towards solving the problem of buying food for those that are really on the breadline.

plus, i'd really like to see cows and goats in sefton park...
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Adolph Hitler did something similar in Germany in the 30's with the autobans etc Andy. He was also preparing for war, but the theory is sound enough. Get the people working and spending money and it creates more jobs which enables the people to work and spend money. 

Adolph liked animals as well mate ..... any relation ?

5 steps removed, mate  :;):

i'd forgotten about the autobahns but i'm not sure its the best comparison. i'm talking more about government supported community based schemes where the people are working for themsleves and for each other. organic yoghurt sandal weaving classes could be one of a number of optional extra incentives.
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Postby Big Niall » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:22 pm

death penalty for murder and sex crimes, no dole money when there are jobs available (not the situation now I know but the last ten years), no free housing, chain gangs to do construction work the back breaking way, stop the free movement of workers within the EU - skill shortages only, (would take EU vote to do that), no more immigration, no religous symbols in schools, unemployed to do community work for their money,

There I solved all the problems.
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:30 pm

Big Niall wrote:death penalty for murder and sex crimes, no dole money when there are jobs available (not the situation now I know but the last ten years), no free housing, chain gangs to do construction work the back breaking way, stop the free movement of workers within the EU - skill shortages only, (would take EU vote to do that), no more immigration, no religous symbols in schools, unemployed to do community work for their money,

There I solved all the problems.

Fuck me, am I in Communist Russia??
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Postby dawson99 » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:33 pm

no religous symbols in schools? So no religious education? CofE? blah
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Postby account deleted by request » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:36 pm

dawson99 wrote:no religous symbols in schools? So no religious education? CofE? blah

Lets put an end to discrimination and teach Devil worshipping as well  :D
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Postby Emerald Red » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:00 pm

Big Niall wrote:death penalty for murder and sex crimes, no dole money when there are jobs available (not the situation now I know but the last ten years), no free housing, chain gangs to do construction work the back breaking way, stop the free movement of workers within the EU - skill shortages only, (would take EU vote to do that), no more immigration, no religous symbols in schools, unemployed to do community work for their money,

There I solved all the problems.

You are taking the p*ss, right?
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Postby Big Niall » Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:41 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Big Niall wrote:death penalty for murder and sex crimes, no dole money when there are jobs available (not the situation now I know but the last ten years), no free housing, chain gangs to do construction work the back breaking way, stop the free movement of workers within the EU - skill shortages only, (would take EU vote to do that), no more immigration, no religous symbols in schools, unemployed to do community work for their money,

There I solved all the problems.

You are taking the p*ss, right?

I believe all the above.

Immigration is fine when in relatively small numbers and there are jobs there for them but in today's economy there isn't.

Also - if you want to teach a religion to your children then go to mass or even make the effort to read the bible to your children and explain it to them. People should take religous responsiblity for their children and not expect the school to do it. The symbols,clothes,masks etc just divide people.

Going to jail for a year should be the worst year of your life when you hate every day and not just a boring doss house hanging around at our expense.

The communist Russia point makes no sense as if anything my comments are right wing while communist Russia is obviously left wing.
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Postby we all dream... » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:26 pm

A quick question.....

Are the likes of. GYBS, Emmerald red, Saint, Fo Dne all casualties of the credit crunch and hence the reason they are on here all day talking football... sometimes :D  all good fella from what I can see but I dont understand how you have the time... basically I have been slacking big time at work the past few days posting on here because there has been some interested, headted debates I have enjoyed viewing and taking part in but I gota get back to work. Surely you lot must do night shifts or something...

I work in London at the moment, doing a years work placement from my uni course. Cannot wait to get back to uni so I can sit on here and talk :censored: and football aaaaaaall day.

Ill be one of the mods by the end of the year!!! :D
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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:03 pm

Big Niall wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
Big Niall wrote:death penalty for murder and sex crimes, no dole money when there are jobs available (not the situation now I know but the last ten years), no free housing, chain gangs to do construction work the back breaking way, stop the free movement of workers within the EU - skill shortages only, (would take EU vote to do that), no more immigration, no religous symbols in schools, unemployed to do community work for their money,

There I solved all the problems.

You are taking the p*ss, right?

I believe all the above.

Immigration is fine when in relatively small numbers and there are jobs there for them but in today's economy there isn't.

Also - if you want to teach a religion to your children then go to mass or even make the effort to read the bible to your children and explain it to them. People should take religous responsiblity for their children and not expect the school to do it. The symbols,clothes,masks etc just divide people.

Going to jail for a year should be the worst year of your life when you hate every day and not just a boring doss house hanging around at our expense.

The communist Russia point makes no sense as if anything my comments are right wing while communist Russia is obviously left wing.

No offense, but if you believe in all that, then your head is up your hole.
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Postby Big Niall » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:21 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Big Niall wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
Big Niall wrote:death penalty for murder and sex crimes, no dole money when there are jobs available (not the situation now I know but the last ten years), no free housing, chain gangs to do construction work the back breaking way, stop the free movement of workers within the EU - skill shortages only, (would take EU vote to do that), no more immigration, no religous symbols in schools, unemployed to do community work for their money,

There I solved all the problems.

You are taking the p*ss, right?

I believe all the above.

Immigration is fine when in relatively small numbers and there are jobs there for them but in today's economy there isn't.

Also - if you want to teach a religion to your children then go to mass or even make the effort to read the bible to your children and explain it to them. People should take religous responsiblity for their children and not expect the school to do it. The symbols,clothes,masks etc just divide people.

Going to jail for a year should be the worst year of your life when you hate every day and not just a boring doss house hanging around at our expense.

The communist Russia point makes no sense as if anything my comments are right wing while communist Russia is obviously left wing.

No offense, but if you believe in all that, then your head is up your hole.



You don't believe in controlling immigration, that jail should be very tough, that a parent should take responsibility for teaching their child religion or that communism was left wing?

Or perhaps you cannot make counterarguments???
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Postby LegBarnes » Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:27 am

Tbh you need to have unemploymen it helps keep inflation down and prices down if every one worked every one would have the money to buy every thing and that drives prices up.

If people chose not to work and feel they life to spend more time say looking after then kids thats fine imo.

Way I see it a 5-10% unemployment rate is fine any thing lower then that and you would see house , food , car , household items all shoot up so far that even if you was on a ok wage you wouldn't be able to afford it.

Only way you every see 0% unemployment is in star trek or commie country.
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Postby LegBarnes » Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:32 am

If the people in this country don't want the jobs then there shouldn't be a problem letting people in that want work.

Damn You be hard pushed nowa days to find a family in uk that has lived here for over 300 years with out any outbreeding.

Its laughtable really way some people think the world should work.

I forgot we still had the views of the nazi's in WW2 if they ain't like us kill them or get rid.  :grinning:
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