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by **Red Dotty** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:38 pm

"Are we or are we not consistant."

I feel we are.

No we are not playing sparkiling football as most are suggesting, but we are top of the league a point ahead of a team regarded as being very consistant and playing fantastic football. Rafa keeps saying how confident the squad is, even Gerrard is writing articles on how Rafa is the best coach he has worked with, which seems a shift from the Gerrard that a couple of seasons ago felt unwanted, hearing this makes me feel we are getting there. He has decided to play this continental way, hard to break down, fustrate teams and wait for them to make mistakes and although results against Fulam and Westham did not return 3 points, i just feel a couple of seasons ago they would have been last minute defeats, just think the point that we got against westham just could be the one that wins the EPL. As a group of supporters while Rafa is leading the way we may just have to expect this to be our style, in our eyes unconsistant in Rafa's just how he wants it. With the aim of getting us our first league title in what seems like and possibly is for alot of people a life time. The first modern EPL title was without a doubt going to be our hardest with the other 3 big guns now also starting to find results this will start adding more pressure to the squad to dig out results. I just wonder what effect the travelling supports and supporters like myself who get to go to a league game maybe 3-4 times a year would have on the club and players (Robbie Keane, Ryan babbel) if we really started enjoying the fact that we were back to challenging the other 3 and voicing this support week in and out on the terraces and in the forums (Not saying that they don't on the terraces , but at the end of some games some boo boys are about) instead of disecting every single minute, pass, period of play and substituation made and relating this to why we are not playing the football the other 3 are. Like everyone who supports LFC I will be over the moon if come next May we have achieved the holy grail and like most I wouldn't give a :censored:

how we got there either.

It seems that our modern footballing phylosophy should be,

"We did it Rafa's way"
:eyebrow

Hope you get what i mean?

?

by **stmichael** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:11 pm

Being top of the league in December when we're not playing well is brilliant, but the next two months are the key to the whole campaign. We need to do enough to stay in contention until the end of January, then see where we are. We won't run away with the title, we were never going to do that, but we do need to start playing with a belief that we're comfortable being up near the top.

As much as anything, it's Rafa's substitutions that leave me a bit worried that he doesn't have the killer instinct. If we don't win the title this year, it'll be for the number of games we've drawn, not lost. we need to risk the odd defeat, cos more often than not we'll win, and convert one point into three.

by **Fo Dne** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:37 pm

bigmick wrote:Yep, it's not how, it's how many. I couldn't give a feck if we bore the pants off everybody while we're doing it, provided we keep winning I'm happy. This weekend was a great example. We were unconvincing against Blackburn but still got the points, and we came so so close to a two point gain on Man Utd. Feck me anyone who talks about any lucky goals we've scored should take a look at Vidics equaliser. From the deflected shot, to the the unlikely bend the sidespin put on the ball, to the perfect contact on the post to roll it into the path of the onrushing centre half, it was a goal which was worryingly shrowded in a "it was meant to happen" cloak of inevitability. Like Dudeks dying seconds save from Shevchenko in the Champions League final, such incidents decide sporting events. I only hope we aren't left looking back at the end of the season on Vidics goal as being a pivotal moment.

There's only one way to ensure that doesn't happen, and that's keep winning. I couldn't myself give a flying feck exactly how we do it, as long as we do. I worry only about the performances because against better teams we'll need to play better, but we can cross that one when we come to it.

The clear difference is look at the chances they missed. They weren't half chances like ours, they were full on missed sitters in alot of cases and there was probably 4 or 5 that any other day would be a guaranteed goal.

Where as when we draw, we miss the odd half chance, shot from 20 yards or half challenged header from a corner.

There is absoloutely no doubt about it, those scumbags make their own luck time and time again by quality, quantity (in terms of chances), force or whatever... we often don't. Sometimes this season we've got extremely lucky and managed to take advantage of it.

Man Utd have nowhere left to go, they've been to most of it not all of last seasons top ten away already. They only have away games against the lesser sides and home games against the rest plus they haven't really hit form as of yet. Thats why I'm so :censored:

off with Rafa being a :censored:

wit and playing :censored:

like Lucas when we NEED to win games.

by **Salty Sock** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:31 am

Fo Dne wrote:
bigmick wrote:Yep, it's not how, it's how many. I couldn't give a feck if we bore the pants off everybody while we're doing it, provided we keep winning I'm happy. This weekend was a great example. We were unconvincing against Blackburn but still got the points, and we came so so close to a two point gain on Man Utd. Feck me anyone who talks about any lucky goals we've scored should take a look at Vidics equaliser. From the deflected shot, to the the unlikely bend the sidespin put on the ball, to the perfect contact on the post to roll it into the path of the onrushing centre half, it was a goal which was worryingly shrowded in a "it was meant to happen" cloak of inevitability. Like Dudeks dying seconds save from Shevchenko in the Champions League final, such incidents decide sporting events. I only hope we aren't left looking back at the end of the season on Vidics goal as being a pivotal moment.

There's only one way to ensure that doesn't happen, and that's keep winning. I couldn't myself give a flying feck exactly how we do it, as long as we do. I worry only about the performances because against better teams we'll need to play better, but we can cross that one when we come to it.

The clear difference is look at the chances they missed. They weren't half chances like ours, they were full on missed sitters in alot of cases and there was probably 4 or 5 that any other day would be a guaranteed goal.

Where as when we draw, we miss the odd half chance, shot from 20 yards or half challenged header from a corner.

There is absoloutely no doubt about it, those scumbags make their own luck time and time again by quality, quantity (in terms of chances), force or whatever... we often don't. Sometimes this season we've got extremely lucky and managed to take advantage of it.

Man Utd have nowhere left to go, they've been to most of it not all of last seasons top ten away already. They only have away games against the lesser sides and home games against the rest plus they haven't really hit form as of yet. Thats why I'm so off with Rafa being a wit and playing like Lucas when we NEED to win games.

You are really angry, play it right ok?
Rafa is doing the right thing, look at the history and you will see his direction has taken us to where we are. You want to argue that??? :idea

by **tubby** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:38 am

It's great that we are top but im sure it would be a completely different feeling of great if we were top by 5 or 6 points. Because thats how many we have dropped when we have had chances to to take advantage of Chelsea dropping points. All it would take is one off result and we would drop down again and yeah we would only be second thats not bad but christ I hope come the end of the season we are looking at results like Stoke ect....and wondering what might have been.

by **Octsky** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:32 pm

maybe the "selling of" rumours will give keane a kick in the backside just like it did to alonso
and alonso looks like he is having the best of his season.
although for alonso's case, rafa is really trying to sell him.
i hope we sign owen for the final title push, was nvr a fan of owen but cant denied he is someone special in front of goal.

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