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Judge wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

Judge wrote:

metalhead wrote:

maypaxvobiscum wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:Why are people in this thread likening, or wanting, to connect the word Muslim to the word terrorist? I look at the word "terrorist" as a very incoherent and often dirty one anyway. It's often abused in its use, and the majority of the time by beaurocratic, suit-wearing hypocrites.

no offence to any muslim but you dont see christian or hindu or taoist groups going on some form of jihad in the name of religion do you? its unheard of.

He isn't debating that, he is debating the setreotyping that some people say about.

Like if someone is a muslim, then definetly he is a terrorist. People do say that.

i heard saying that not all muslims are terrorists, but ALL terrorists are muslim

Really? I had no idea the IRA were Muslim. 

i think the point was to ensure that we dont brand all muslims with the terror tag

JBG wrote:Who are you calling nobhead, nob head?

dawson99 wrote:sounds like a quiz question. if some terrorists are bad and some muslims are terrorists are some muslims bad?

Some of all religions are eejits, dont mean they are all.
One persons freedom fighter is another persons terrorist

you tasted freedon from here dawson for a while, therefore you are a terrorist 

Judge wrote:When the Iberian peninsula was part of the Roman Empire there were several important settlements in the province, such as Segóbriga, Ercávica and Gran Valeria. However, the place where Cuenca is located today was uninhabited at that time.

After Muslim troops conquered the area in 714, they soon realized the value of this strategic location and they built Conca alcazaba (an Arabic fortress) between two gorges dug between the Júcar and Huécar rivers, surrounded by a one km long wall. Cuenca soon became an agricultural and textile manufacturing city, enjoying growing prosperity.

Around the twelfth century the Christians, living in northern Spain during the Muslim presence, started to slowly recover the Iberian peninsula. Castile took over western and central areas of Spain, while Aragon enlarged along the Mediterranean area. The Muslim Kingdom, Al-Andalus, started to break into small provinces (Reinos de taifas) under christian pressure, and in 1100 these areas were near Conca. Conca was conquered by Alfonso VIII , King of Castile, from the Taifa's Kingdom of Toledo in 1177. Previously it had been handed to Castile, under the marriage agreement between princess Zaida and Alfonso VI, but it was soon recovered by the Muslims in 1108, after the battle of Sagrajas.

Alfonso VIII granted a city title, and it was considered to be "Muy noble y muy leal" (Very noble and very faithful). It was given a name, the Fuero, written in Latin, that ruled Cuenca's citizenship, and it was considered one of the most perfect written at that period of time. During the next few centuries Cuenca enjoyed prosperity, thanks to textile manufacturing and livestock exploitation.The cathedral started to be built at that time, in an anglo-norman style, with many French workers, since Alfonso VIII's wife, Leonor de Plantagenet, was French


article taken from internet on 12th century spain

christians were hardly backward sabre

concept of jihad

christian rebuilding after expelling moors in 12th century spain

interesting articles

Where's the interesting articles about the Moors and Jews being driven out of Granada  and the start of the Spanish Inquisition in the 15th century?  You know, the ones where all Muslims and Jews in Spain were forced to denounce their faith and become Roman Catholic or face exile, torture or execution? 

Judge wrote:

dawson99 wrote:sounds like a quiz question. if some terrorists are bad and some muslims are terrorists are some muslims bad?

Some of all religions are eejits, dont mean they are all.
One persons freedom fighter is another persons terrorist

you tasted freedon from here dawson for a while, therefore you are a terrorist 

Never fought for it though, just left. 


ATM these muslim freedom fighters arent giving the rest of the good eggs a good name, and more groups need to denounce ALL acts of terrorism before they get a fair shout by the rest of us who as a people see things in black and white with no grey areas

JBG wrote:Or their "remarkable" decimation of the populations of Latin America where only a handful of men ending up killing - directly or indirectly - on a scale that would have made Himmler's jaw drop.

dawson99 wrote:

Judge wrote:

dawson99 wrote:sounds like a quiz question. if some terrorists are bad and some muslims are terrorists are some muslims bad?

Some of all religions are eejits, dont mean they are all.
One persons freedom fighter is another persons terrorist

you tasted freedon from here dawson for a while, therefore you are a terrorist 

Never fought for it though, just left. 


ATM these muslim freedom fighters arent giving the rest of the good eggs a good name, and more groups need to denounce ALL acts of terrorism before they get a fair shout by the rest of us who as a people see things in black and white with no grey areas

Judge wrote:i guess then that all people are as bad as each other - history has taught us that

its in our nature to war for whatever reason

we will be our own downfall, not a meteorite this time

Spot on.  The biggest threat to the world isn't oil depletion or global warming or over-population or asteroids...it's our own inability to see past differences and seek common respect and understanding.  Cultural divisions will be the death of us.

JBG wrote:I guess and a lot of other types of European diseases.

However, they were pretty handy with the sword and gun as well. 

indeed, and it had nowt to do with gold reserves