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Rush Job wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

Rush Job wrote:

bavlondon wrote:He was a lot better after half time and almost scored for us. Admitted I was slagging him of to the teeth today but whatever Rafa said at half time seemed to do the trick.

It was more down to Alonso coming on IMO, Lucas always looks a different player when played with Alonso because he`s given the ball further up the park.
I`d like to see him loaned out because he`s got no confidence and is scared stiff of making a mistake, which is why he too often puts it sideways or back where it came instead of trying a more risky pass.
I`d like to see him have a season at spurs under harry, a more arm round the shoulder, motivating type.

We are not rich enough to be spending 8Mil on a player to then loan him out. 

Just sell him already.

But bav the lad hardly gets any footy, for us or the ressies. I think a large portion of the fee was down to potential but all we are doing is holdng that potential back like we have so many times before.
How can you expect the lad to improve when he`s without regular footy and when he does get a game he gets jib from his own support, I`d be hiding too.
The fact we invested 8m is surly more reason to help his development by getting him regular footy at a decent side for a season.
Had we loaned sinama and warnock we could have saved our selves a packet.

Number 9 wrote:

Rush Job wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

Rush Job wrote:

bavlondon wrote:He was a lot better after half time and almost scored for us. Admitted I was slagging him of to the teeth today but whatever Rafa said at half time seemed to do the trick.

It was more down to Alonso coming on IMO, Lucas always looks a different player when played with Alonso because he`s given the ball further up the park.
I`d like to see him loaned out because he`s got no confidence and is scared stiff of making a mistake, which is why he too often puts it sideways or back where it came instead of trying a more risky pass.
I`d like to see him have a season at spurs under harry, a more arm round the shoulder, motivating type.

We are not rich enough to be spending 8Mil on a player to then loan him out. 

Just sell him already.

But bav the lad hardly gets any footy, for us or the ressies. I think a large portion of the fee was down to potential but all we are doing is holdng that potential back like we have so many times before.
How can you expect the lad to improve when he`s without regular footy and when he does get a game he gets jib from his own support, I`d be hiding too.
The fact we invested 8m is surly more reason to help his development by getting him regular footy at a decent side for a season.
Had we loaned sinama and warnock we could have saved our selves a packet.

We cant afford to give him regular games though.Break him in the odd time like Rafa has been doing,yeah.He got another chance today.But in all honesty IF he was a quality player,or even a quality player that was suffering from lack of games he would be showing more potential than he has done!
I've said it before,Rafa has put together a very good and capable of beating anyone first 11!But once ya look by them,we are seriously ropey!Too many players not enough quality,even as back up.
Two serious long term injuries to any out of,Torres,Carra,Gerrard,Alonso,Masch even Kuyt and we'd be fuc,ked!We need to work on building a squad yes,but Id rather have a squad with 28 when you can rely on your fringe players than a squad of 40 when half of them are not fit to play in the championship!

Rush Job wrote:

Number 9 wrote:

Rush Job wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

Rush Job wrote:

bavlondon wrote:He was a lot better after half time and almost scored for us. Admitted I was slagging him of to the teeth today but whatever Rafa said at half time seemed to do the trick.

It was more down to Alonso coming on IMO, Lucas always looks a different player when played with Alonso because he`s given the ball further up the park.
I`d like to see him loaned out because he`s got no confidence and is scared stiff of making a mistake, which is why he too often puts it sideways or back where it came instead of trying a more risky pass.
I`d like to see him have a season at spurs under harry, a more arm round the shoulder, motivating type.

We are not rich enough to be spending 8Mil on a player to then loan him out. 

Just sell him already.

But bav the lad hardly gets any footy, for us or the ressies. I think a large portion of the fee was down to potential but all we are doing is holdng that potential back like we have so many times before.
How can you expect the lad to improve when he`s without regular footy and when he does get a game he gets jib from his own support, I`d be hiding too.
The fact we invested 8m is surly more reason to help his development by getting him regular footy at a decent side for a season.
Had we loaned sinama and warnock we could have saved our selves a packet.

We cant afford to give him regular games though.Break him in the odd time like Rafa has been doing,yeah.He got another chance today.But in all honesty IF he was a quality player,or even a quality player that was suffering from lack of games he would be showing more potential than he has done!
I've said it before,Rafa has put together a very good and capable of beating anyone first 11!But once ya look by them,we are seriously ropey!Too many players not enough quality,even as back up.
Two serious long term injuries to any out of,Torres,Carra,Gerrard,Alonso,Masch even Kuyt and we'd be fuc,ked!We need to work on building a squad yes,but Id rather have a squad with 28 when you can rely on your fringe players than a squad of 40 when half of them are not fit to play in the championship!

So whats the use of buying young players if we cant give them any kind of footy?
Why not send em out on loan?
How can a player improve and gain confidence without playing?

Number 9 wrote:If these young players we buy are gonna make it,they will show it in games!
Lucas has had lots of chances and I have yet to see him play well,maybe apart from against Marsielle last year(if i remember right)
My minds been made up on Lucas long ago and i feel Rafa is giving him chances more in hope than anything else.If he's still here next season I'll be disgusted.On the other hand If he turns into a footballer fit of the shirt between now and then I'll happily be told I'm wrong.
Not the worst player in the squad but he's been given chances above better players IMO.Just dont think he's good enough and ever will be.

bavlondon wrote:Did you not just post this exact same thing in the Keane thread?

  fkin spammer.

bavlondon wrote:Did you not just post this exact same thing in the Keane thread?

Yes,
I did
i thought it had a rightful place in both thread's

by the way i'm still off at Robbie Keane, just waitin to see if they show his chance on MOTD

agoodmentality wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Did you not just post this exact same thing in the Keane thread?

Yes,
I did
i thought it had a rightful place in both thread's

agoodmentality wrote:I only seem to post on here when we've done .

I only seen the second half today, but Robbie Keane is really starting to me off,

I missed the chance he had in the first half,(which i've heard was another sitter),  It was that half chance in injury time which drove me mad.

fair enough, he did well to pluck the ball out of the air in the first place, but once you've got the ball under control, if you have your back to goal, with a defender behind you, the first thing you would do is look up, if our number 7 would've looked up he would;ve seen one of the world's best strikers open and in space right in front of him,
But no, Keane tries an audacious flick over the defenders head, which predictably didn't come off.
WTF

We can't afford luxury players in our team

I am phuking livid, i hope Rafa is,

every other regular starter is playing at a really high level right now,

It worries me that it is Keane's tranfer fee £20M FFS, that is keeping him in the team,

Would he still be in the team if he was a free transfer?