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by **kazza** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:19 pm

In every game, Dudek f@cks up at least once (often more). Sometimes the other team scores, and sometimes we get away with it. To me he is as bad as Westerveld was. He looks good when the ball goes to him (remember Spurs scored on him on his inside post) The defenders need a brave strong assertive keeper.

We will never be a great team with an average keeper. Houllier was going to sell him. If only he had left us with that as a legacy. We havent had a good keeper since Clemence.

by **A.B.** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:21 pm

Why is that everyone seems to think that a club must be perfect? Since when did having one poor player make the rest of the squad look bad?

A squad can't be perfect, there is always a flaw. Having a poor goalkeeper doesn't mean that we won't be a great time, what kind of ****** statement is that? Get a hold of yourself. Even when we win, somebody has something negative to say.

by **kazza** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:29 pm

b#llshit, I have been complaining since he came. He is too unreliable, and if you cant see that, u dont know football. A keeper that keeps giving those kind of goals away, and we wont win ******.

by **azriahmad** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:29 pm

Quote (kazza @ Aug. 21 2004,19:19)

...We havent had a good keeper since Clemence.

Have you forgotten Bruce Grobbelaar? Or is it because you are a young fan who does not have a memory of 1982 until 1990? Forget his later years at Liverpool as we also had declined. Clemence was a far more consistent 'keeper as he does not take risks like Grobbelaar but Brucie is very commanding when it comes to crosses, had better reflexes but is prone to bizzare clangers yet still much more reliable than "Calamity" James, "Butterfingers" Westerveld and Jerzu Dudek.

Dudek is a good shot stopper but is prone to letting in goals at his nearside and horrible mistakes like today. He is still better than Westerveld but having said that, does not inspire a lot of confidence for me. Perhaps a more reliable 'keeper is needed.

by **A.B.** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:32 pm

kazza wrote:b#llshit, I have been complaining since he came. He is too unreliable, and if you cant see that, u dont know football. A keeper that keeps giving those kind of goals away, and we wont win ******.

I don't know football? I ought to show my foot up your ******, you ****** imbecile. I've been playing it and watching football since I was 3.

Stop whinning, I hate fans such as yourself. Every game somebody has something negative to say. Dudek is not a great goalkeeper, I know that but your statement is just B-U-L-L S-H-I-T.

"we can't be a good team with a bad goalkeeper" and you call yourself a football fan?

by **madred** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:40 pm

To say he is just a bad as Westerveld is a little bit harsh in my opinion. While Jerzy is prone to the odd error here and there he was a vast improvement on Sander. Jerzy is top class still and i hope he prooves he can still do it for Liverpool. Keepers also need alot of mental strength to bounce back and in the past he has so maybe he will proove people wrong.

by **supersub** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 11:36 pm

I think Dudek's position as no.1 maybe in doubt.He made a couple of blunders for Poland recently that led to 1 or 2 goals,so his mistake today could see a change in the next week or so.I prefer Chris Kirkland and hope he is fit soon.

by **azriahmad** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:53 am

Yes, supersub, many people tend to forget Dudek's performance at the 2002 World Cup where Poland lost to Denmark by 5 goals and he was clealy at fault for one of the goals. He let in a goal at his near side, if I am not mistaken.

After that, he was not an automatic first choice any more. His confidence seem to have taken a knock since then and he suffered that infamous blunders when he gifted 2 goals to Forlan who gained some confidence to score more goals for manure after that.

Wonder what happened to Dudek after those episodes. He still is a good shot stopper, but somehow overall, not as reliable as when he first arrived.

by **kazza** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:09 pm

Grobbelaar was good but he threw games for money. He will always be tarnished. Dudek is not good enough for liverpool and I cannot believe you cannot see that AB, What are you f#cking his sister??? Mark my words, he will make two or three errors a game, let's hope we get away with it.

AB stick it up your ******

by **crowfucious** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:37 pm

who else noticed on motd that it was described as carras fault against Man city Thats almost as bad as claiming that carra was at fault for the D**go F*rl*n incident. As was mentioned at the time

by **Paul C** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:34 pm

We have had good keepers since Clemence problem is their not reliable enough, I don't want to blame Dudek for Saturday but he does make mistakes, we had decent goal keepers who were great shot stopper and good at 1 on 1 situations but just drop crosses and make mistakes

I still think Dudek is a good player, he need to be more vocal and commanding.

by **kazza** » Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:47 pm

I just remember how I felt when Clemence was in goal. He was so steady you felt he was unbeatable (even though he might not have been). I have not felt that from a Liverpool keeper since. I am always nervous when Dudek comes out for crosses (and the players seem to be as well).
I think if you survive with an average keeper, you better have an excellent defence. I would rather invest in Kirkland and replace Dudek. Kirkland has just been unlucky so far.

by **Boocity** » Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:08 pm

All keepers make mistakes at some time or other. Rember calamity James? and he is Englands No 1

??

by **bpm1976** » Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:26 pm

Players under the new boss are being given a chance to prove themselves, never thought I would see Biscan or Diao playing again, but they are getting a chance. Dudek makes some blinding saves then drops a right school boy error. Kirkland when fit is IMO our no.1 Gk, but as we all know is very injury prone. Cant see him being an ever present due this.

by **Red_Si** » Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:54 pm

Dudek is prone to problems with his vision (like 'calamity' James who was addicted to computer games). Maybe Dudek read to many adult magazines as a child.

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