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by **tonyeh** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:02 pm

GYBS wrote:If we kept handing the ball over to madrid how come they only really fashioned two decent chances ?and we fashioned loads ? that i cant understand ?

Think you got is spot on lando - just missed that finishing touch .

Did you even watch the match?

Just because Liverpool gave the ball away to AM, doesn't mean that they are automatically going to create chances.

And where is the "load" of chances that Liverpool "fashioned". The had a couple of REAL chances and a few setpieces that Agger fluffed.

:no

honestly

by **GYBS** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:05 pm

18 shots on goal - 7 on target . that is chances right there . 60 % of possession over the whole game - 68 % in the second half . Last night you said no real chances created now there is a couple ?

Chances for gerrard ,masher,ngog,agger,carra,keane. How the feck can we have 18 shots on goal nad 7 on target when they havent created anything ?

by **GYBS** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:08 pm

go to this page and will tell you all the stats from last night - we made ten more bad passes than atletico .

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/footbal....22.html

by **tonyeh** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:10 pm

GYBS wrote:18 shots on goal - 7 on target . that is chances right there . 60 % of possession over the whole game - 68 % in the second half . Last night you said no real chances created now there is a couple ?

Chances for gerrard ,masher,ngog,agger,carra,keane. How the feck can we have 18 shots on goal nad 7 on target when they havent created anything ?

Shots on goal are not actual chances.

A chance is creating a real oportunity to score. Blamming the ball, like one of Gerrard's shots last night, is not a chance. Its a hit and hope.

There were only a couple of real attempts to score a goal last night, one of which was Robbie's fluffed shot in the first half. The rest were hit'n'hope and 50/50 set pieces.

If Liverpool had "created" a "chance" like the one that led to AM's goal, I'd be a happier man.

by **stmichael** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:16 pm

tonyeh wrote:
GYBS wrote:If we kept handing the ball over to madrid how come they only really fashioned two decent chances ?and we fashioned loads ? that i cant understand ?

Think you got is spot on lando - just missed that finishing touch .

Did you even watch the match?

Just because Liverpool gave the ball away to AM, doesn't mean that they are automatically going to create chances.

And where is the "load" of chances that Liverpool "fashioned". The had a couple of REAL chances and a few setpieces that Agger fluffed.

honestly

Agger should have had a hatrick mate.

by **GYBS** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:18 pm

so when agger headed wide that was ahit and hope ? or when he scissor kicked that has a hit and hope or when robbie set up gerrard that he just put over that was a hit and hope ? they were chances mate simple as that , real chances . so include them we have two for keane , 4 for agger , two for gerrard (block from a defender) one for masher - so thats nine real chances.

by **tonyeh** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:21 pm

stmichael wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
GYBS wrote:If we kept handing the ball over to madrid how come they only really fashioned two decent chances ?and we fashioned loads ? that i cant understand ?

Think you got is spot on lando - just missed that finishing touch .

Did you even watch the match?

Just because Liverpool gave the ball away to AM, doesn't mean that they are automatically going to create chances.

And where is the "load" of chances that Liverpool "fashioned". The had a couple of REAL chances and a few setpieces that Agger fluffed.

honestly

Agger should have had a hatrick mate.

Agger's headers left a lot to be desired imo.

Especially his last one. He didn't even try to direct the ball.

Either way. Agger's chances came from setpieces. They weren't "created" in any sense of the word.

by **GYBS** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:21 pm

how they hell did they come about if they werent created then ? the freekick from fabio was a great ball in - so fabio created the chance ?

by **tonyeh** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:24 pm

GYBS wrote:so when agger headed wide that was ahit and hope ? or when he scissor kicked that has a hit and hope or when robbie set up gerrard that he just put over that was a hit and hope ? they were chances mate simple as that , real chances . so include them we have two for keane , 4 for agger , two for gerrard (block from a defender) one for masher - so thats nine real chances.

Of course it's hit and hope. Most headers are.

Gerrards over the probably was one of the clear chances Liverpool had as was Robbie's fluffed shot. But most were just chancing their arm and hoping the ball would end up in the back of the net.

by **Dundalk** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:27 pm

tonyeh wrote:Either way. Agger's chances came from setpieces. They weren't "created" in any sense of the word.

by **tonyeh** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:29 pm

GYBS wrote:how they hell did they come about if they werent created then ? the freekick from fabio was a great ball in - so fabio created the chance ?

That's not creating a chance. Anybody could have got on the end of that, both Liverpool and Atletico. Corners in are 50/50 at best.

AM's goal wis a good example of a well created chance. Heitinger made a superb pass to Lopez who controlled it well and gave a good tempered pass to their striker and he put it away with a well taken shot on goal.

That's a clear chance created.

by **stmichael** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:30 pm

Incidentally, thought Perrea was outstanding. How much would he cost in January? :oops:

by **GYBS** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:31 pm

tonyeh wrote:
GYBS wrote:how they hell did they come about if they werent created then ? the freekick from fabio was a great ball in - so fabio created the chance ?

That's not creating a chance. Anybody could have got on the end of that, both Liverpool and Atletico. Corners in are 50/50 at best.

AM's goal wis a good example of a well created chance. Heitinger made a superb pass to Lopez who controlled it well and gave a good tempered pass to their striker and he put it away with a well taken shot on goal.

That's a clear chance created.

if its not creating a chance wht the hell is it ? hetinga to me lumped the ball forward .

by **tonyeh** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:37 pm

GYBS wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
GYBS wrote:how they hell did they come about if they werent created then ? the freekick from fabio was a great ball in - so fabio created the chance ?

That's not creating a chance. Anybody could have got on the end of that, both Liverpool and Atletico. Corners in are 50/50 at best.

AM's goal wis a good example of a well created chance. Heitinger made a superb pass to Lopez who controlled it well and gave a good tempered pass to their striker and he put it away with a well taken shot on goal.

That's a clear chance created.

if its not creating a chance wht the hell is it ? hetinga to me lumped the ball forward .

Setpieces come about because the other side foul the ball or knock it out of play somehow.

That's not "creating" anything. Surely you can understand that?

A real clear cut created chance is the example I gave you, or Robbie's chance that Franco got to.

There's a world of difference.

And Hetinga's pass was class, worthy of Gerrard on his good days.

by **GYBS** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:39 pm

but once the set piece is awarded they then can create a chance - just like last night . maybe they were creating when the foul came about .

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