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bigmick wrote:sixthly-the styling which we did in midweek arguably backfired. You can argue all day long that it didn't do us any bharm, but I certainly wouldn't think there'd be too much arguments that it didn't appear to do us any discernable good.

  the man with the agenda... 

tell me bigmick how did the 'styling' in midweek affect us because we outplayed them in the first half and outplayed them for 15-20mins in the second half... we had lots of chances to put the game away like you said... then rafa brought keane off and babel in... babel didn't do anything at all and we were put under pressure and conceded from an own goal... so how did the 'styling' in midweek affect us when we were outplaying them for 65-70 mins...

LegBarnes wrote:

Avi Cohen wrote:

LegBarnes wrote:

Avi Cohen wrote:There's a few reasons why we didn't win today:

#1 The Setanta commentator said, 'Liverpool have yet to concede a goal by header this season.' Cue Spurs goal by header.
#2 The Setenta commentator said 'There are more syllables in Pavlyuchenko's name that goals he's scored this season.' Cue a Pavlyuchenko goal.
#3 The Setanta commentator said 'Rafa has never lost to Spurs.' Cue Spurs win.

But the biggest reason is...

#4 Rafa's system.
Rafa has ONE brand of football - his. He's won LA Liga, Uefa Cup, Champions League and FA Cup playing his system and granted it's worked more often that not. So Rafa's thinking is 'If we don't win, it must be the player's performances, not the system. Because I've won blah blah blah...'.

A case in point. We were playing 4-4-1-1. We needed a shake-up, something 'different'. Here's the changes:
Babel for Keane. Still 4-4-1-1
Bena-useless for Riera. Still 4-4-1-1. Except we've got an average right midfielder playing left midfield. Does that make sense? No.

When I saw Bena-useless coming on, I thought, 'Wow - Rafa is mixing it up and actually going for a win. Kuyt joins Babel up front with Yossi on the right.' How wrong I was.

We were always going to get caught out at some stage and it's a bit of bad luck we got Spurs in the ascendancy - it was really putting off the inevitable. Bad luck too hitting the woodwork 3 times.

This inability, or lack of ambition, to kill of teams is really getting to me. Liverpool might have been top of the league for a bit - it's a snoozefest to watch, though.

I just hope this one setback doesn't send ripples of doubt through a team whose confidence has almost being tentative. When Torres comes back, it'll be different.

First goal was own goal from carra spurs didnt score it.

Spurs did score it. It was a goal for Spurs. Not us.

No spurs plater didn't make contact with the ball it was carra own goal I got the reply here watched a few times it deffo own goal.

SupitsJonF wrote:United have a good bench?  They did horrible without Ronaldo.  True, he isn't really replaceable, but they aren't as strong as everyone thinks they are.

And I don't think we were too concerned about the Madrid away game.

Whether that is true or not it doesnt really matter does it? They still have world class forwards in Tevez, Rooney AND Berbatov. And they done the double last season so despite Ronaldo or no Ronaldo they are still miles away from us. We have Kuyt who is ok at best and Babel who is on occasion ok but the rest of the time.

Im not really that upset at the result today (ok I am of course as we threw it away) but I knew it was only a matter of time before it caught up to us.

Until we can boast strength in depth to boss games week in week out we should not expect any higher than 4th place.

heimdall wrote:

destro wrote:

heimdall wrote:

destro wrote:

heimdall wrote:

SupitsJonF wrote:

lewerty wrote:

SupitsJonF wrote:

lewerty wrote:not going to be good enough to win it imo and that was my view before the game

Go cry a river and off then.

just up u im just being honest chelsea have to much depth and strength in there squad they are killin team 5-0 and we struggle

Chelsea played Sunderland, we played a good spurs team.  We could of been up 3-0 easily maybe even 4 if we were shooting like a team in our position.

Did you watch the game at all or are you just dumb?

Sorry but you are the dumb one here, we could have been this and we could have been that, well we weren't and the main reason is that half the team have not the slightest fecking idea how to score a goal!!
Plus why oh why can we not find a single bloody player inthe team who knows how to take a corner, why is it always Stevie who takes freekicks and corners when he is so bloody awful at them?

Well at least we had 1 week at top spot, I'm sure you happy clappers will bask in the glory of that for a few years!

Right on cue, are the rest on their way or did you come alone ? 

Instead of being a smart why don't you try and argue against me, I didn't say anything that isn't true. We have been riding our luck so far this season and today it ended despite Toffee not being able to take a joke!
The problem is that teams like Manure and the Chavs have so much more class in their team, we only have a few great players and too much dross. Today even Spurs showed, at least attacking, far more imagination, skill and flair than us.

I am not here to argue, it really does nothing for my ego to argue with a name on a computer screen ?

Chelsea and Man U have so much class that they have won every game this season and we are so far behind them in points ! lets throw the towel in now, you never seem to be around when we are doing well, I imagine you smash your keyboard up after you have wrote a post ready to tell us how bad we are only to have to delete it before you get chance to send it ( Wigan and Man City for example ).

You carry on mate because in moments like this when I am feeling slightly gutted, I read your posts and they make me smile 

You must have short term memory loss or something, I have posted loads of times after we have won, why don't you go back and check. I am not negative at all but I am realistic, if you still think we have a realistic chance of winning even from before today's match then good for you, I hope the weather is nice in your little fantasy world!

bavlondon wrote:

SupitsJonF wrote:United have a good bench?  They did horrible without Ronaldo.  True, he isn't really replaceable, but they aren't as strong as everyone thinks they are.

And I don't think we were too concerned about the Madrid away game.

Whether that is true or not it doesnt really matter does it? They still have world class forwards in Tevez, Rooney AND Berbatov. And they done the double last season so despite Ronaldo or no Ronaldo they are still miles away from us. We have Kuyt who is ok at best and Babel who is on occasion ok but the rest of the time.

Im not really that upset at the result today (ok I am of course as we threw it away) but I knew it was only a matter of time before it caught up to us.

Until we can boast strength in depth to boss games week in week out we should not expect any higher than 4th place.

bavlondon wrote:

maguskwt wrote:lots of feckin jokers on here with no faith... we met our first obstacle in our journey and they're ready to give up... 

. So what was the Stoke game? Or Madrid away? Again there was another example of what happened today.

Igor Zidane wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

SupitsJonF wrote:United have a good bench?  They did horrible without Ronaldo.  True, he isn't really replaceable, but they aren't as strong as everyone thinks they are.

And I don't think we were too concerned about the Madrid away game.

Whether that is true or not it doesnt really matter does it? They still have world class forwards in Tevez, Rooney AND Berbatov. And they done the double last season so despite Ronaldo or no Ronaldo they are still miles away from us. We have Kuyt who is ok at best and Babel who is on occasion ok but the rest of the time.

Im not really that upset at the result today (ok I am of course as we threw it away) but I knew it was only a matter of time before it caught up to us.

Until we can boast strength in depth to boss games week in week out we should not expect any higher than 4th place.

How are they miles ahead of us , have you seen the league table.

maguskwt wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

maguskwt wrote:lots of feckin jokers on here with no faith... we met our first obstacle in our journey and they're ready to give up... 

. So what was the Stoke game? Or Madrid away? Again there was another example of what happened today.

tell me bav besides arsenal which other team won the league without losing?

Gerrard30391 wrote:

heimdall wrote:

destro wrote:

heimdall wrote:

destro wrote:

heimdall wrote:

SupitsJonF wrote:

lewerty wrote:

SupitsJonF wrote:

lewerty wrote:not going to be good enough to win it imo and that was my view before the game

Go cry a river and off then.

just up u im just being honest chelsea have to much depth and strength in there squad they are killin team 5-0 and we struggle

Chelsea played Sunderland, we played a good spurs team.  We could of been up 3-0 easily maybe even 4 if we were shooting like a team in our position.

Did you watch the game at all or are you just dumb?

Sorry but you are the dumb one here, we could have been this and we could have been that, well we weren't and the main reason is that half the team have not the slightest fecking idea how to score a goal!!
Plus why oh why can we not find a single bloody player inthe team who knows how to take a corner, why is it always Stevie who takes freekicks and corners when he is so bloody awful at them?

Well at least we had 1 week at top spot, I'm sure you happy clappers will bask in the glory of that for a few years!

Right on cue, are the rest on their way or did you come alone ? 

Instead of being a smart why don't you try and argue against me, I didn't say anything that isn't true. We have been riding our luck so far this season and today it ended despite Toffee not being able to take a joke!
The problem is that teams like Manure and the Chavs have so much more class in their team, we only have a few great players and too much dross. Today even Spurs showed, at least attacking, far more imagination, skill and flair than us.

I am not here to argue, it really does nothing for my ego to argue with a name on a computer screen ?

Chelsea and Man U have so much class that they have won every game this season and we are so far behind them in points ! lets throw the towel in now, you never seem to be around when we are doing well, I imagine you smash your keyboard up after you have wrote a post ready to tell us how bad we are only to have to delete it before you get chance to send it ( Wigan and Man City for example ).

You carry on mate because in moments like this when I am feeling slightly gutted, I read your posts and they make me smile 

You must have short term memory loss or something, I have posted loads of times after we have won, why don't you go back and check. I am not negative at all but I am realistic, if you still think we have a realistic chance of winning even from before today's match then good for you, I hope the weather is nice in your little fantasy world!

Sorry guys, didn't realise i'd joined a forum, circus and childrens nursery all at the same time.

bavlondon wrote:

Igor Zidane wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

SupitsJonF wrote:United have a good bench?  They did horrible without Ronaldo.  True, he isn't really replaceable, but they aren't as strong as everyone thinks they are.

And I don't think we were too concerned about the Madrid away game.

Whether that is true or not it doesnt really matter does it? They still have world class forwards in Tevez, Rooney AND Berbatov. And they done the double last season so despite Ronaldo or no Ronaldo they are still miles away from us. We have Kuyt who is ok at best and Babel who is on occasion ok but the rest of the time.

Im not really that upset at the result today (ok I am of course as we threw it away) but I knew it was only a matter of time before it caught up to us.

Until we can boast strength in depth to boss games week in week out we should not expect any higher than 4th place.

How are they miles ahead of us , have you seen the league table.

Read my sig.......1 month I tell ya. If im wrong I will happily hold my hand up and say I called it wrong. But at least acknowledge what I am saying here.

That's not good enough, Bav. We want naked pictures of girlfriends as a penalty