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by **Paul C** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:39 pm

Danny Agger's run today for Kuyts first goal got me thinkin, he has always been great at bringin the ball outta defence kinda like Hansen used to do but I honestly think he could make a good midfielder, he has good feet and a great shot on him.

Maybe he could do a job if Xabi or Lucas leave the club?

by **Espionage** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:56 am

Its not too much of a problem I believe. If he gets into the kind of form that saw him keep Hyypia out of the team 2 seasons ago then he can still have a huge impact in the attacking game. We really play with a defensive midfielder that plays as a centreback when coming out of defense so he will keep on making those runs.

But to answer the question I dont think that it would be such a silly idea to give him a chance in the Alonso role (given that he left, though i doubt he will)

No wonder Real Madrid want him..

by **account deleted by request** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:51 am

Not sure myself, but I wouldn't dismiss the idea out of hand. I am still hopeful he will soon be back at his best as a CB and the question will have to go unanswered, but he showed today the value of having a player who can run with the ball from deep and make a good pass at the end of it.

by **Espionage** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:06 am

Must be hell for strikers, knowing that when he runs forward they have to chase because of how he can punish them.

by **aCe'** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:01 am

I dont think hes a great center back by any stretch of the imagination... his positioning, concentration levels, aerial dominance or lack of...etc etc are average at best... he's a very good footballer however and with the ball at his feet can pick out a pass or even make a direct run to open up spaces... hes not the fastest but hes not what id call slow either...

he'd make one hell of a fullback imo and with Carra, Hyypia and Skrtel already in our books id love to see him given a shot at that leftback spot sometime soon... I said it earlier in some other thread that Agger would most probably be one of those fullbacks who dont overlap the winger on the outside but the inside.. i'v seen him do it a fair few times attacking down the left flank then coming deeper inside to recieve the ball ..
it doesnt bother me one bit, i actually like it . With riera playing down the left flank riera can be the one playing the line dragging fullbacks wide with agger coming deeper to open up spaces for strikers and other midfielders...sort of like wht he did against wigan yesterday...

Dossena, Insua, Aurelio.... i think agger would do a better job... to be honest it wouldnt take much to do that but still...

by **Owzat** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:10 am

s@int wrote:Not sure myself, but I wouldn't dismiss the idea out of hand. I am still hopeful he will soon be back at his best as a CB and the question will have to go unanswered, but he showed today the value of having a player who can run with the ball from deep and make a good pass at the end of it.

I reckon he has more goalscoring potential than Alonso or Mascherano, as good if not better than both tackling, better in the air for late runs into the box and isn't too bad on the ball. He needs to work on his ball skills though, getting robbed in midfield may not be quite as disastrous as in front of goal, but it's not clever.

Whether you'd want to take a good CB and convert to a midfielder is debatable, not sure he'd want to do it or he'd probably already be a DM. Could be useful in some games. The other side of the coin is in games where Liverpool will have the bulk of possession and be looking to break the defence down, you want a CB who can bring the ball forward. He's more of a goal threat than Carra and Skrtel, I like having a CB like Agger who has so much more to his game than Carra and Skrtel. His mistake may have dented his hopes of keeping his place long term, but his run and determination to make up for it will have done him no harm at all. Hyypia was our best CB for getting goals, we lack that with C & S at the back.

by **RedBlood** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:17 am

people need to remember yesterday was his first prem game in a long long time so hes going to be a bit risky and i reckon reina was as much to blame for giving him the ball in that position when he clearly didnt ask for it
hes top draw in my opinion and although i feel he could do a very good job in midfield, we have top class players there already so its pointless, he gives us something different bringing the ball out of defence so all we would be doing is taking that from our game

by **roberto green** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:43 am

Give hiim a chance to get back into the swing of things, don't forget he has been out for a very long time once he has a few games under his belt you will see the difference, your always guaranteed a goal off him too,somrthing we have been missing from the centre backs since Hyppia has been dropped.

by **The_Rock** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:53 am

Leftback....

I said it before and i say it again.....Agger is the next maldini.

by **roberto green** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:02 pm

The_Rock wrote:Leftback....

I said it before and i say it again.....Agger is the next maldini.

Aggerdini?

by **hello_red** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:53 pm

If he wanted to he could be a world beating centre back or left back. Against wigan he was not great but he showed glimpses of the quality we missed last term.

Hes fine, just needs game time. And he will get that over the next few games!

by **Rafa D** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:55 pm

He's a quality centre back. Last year most were in agreement losing him when we did knocked the team off course for a very good season. Give him a run of games to get playing again.

by **Jimmy the Weasel** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:16 pm

Playing at centre-back allows him the opportunity to bring the ball out because the opposition don't expect him to do so, as most centre-halves rarely venture over the half-way line in open play.

To put him in midfield negates that additional bonus he brings to the team as he'd be expected to break forward and be nullified more easily by his opposite number, because that's what midfielders do.

Strikers aren't as prone to tracking players who have gone past them into "unchartered waters" upfield - which is why it's so effective.

Leave him where he is, he will be great for us for years to come.

by **Ace Ventura** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:46 pm

Dont think he would like the hustle and bustle of centre midfield, where you dont get that much time on the ball and have to play quick accurate passes.

The leftback shout is a good one, i said it also in another thread, he definately has composure in the final third loves to storm forward and if we were to put him there it would allow us to play Hyypia and be alot steadier from set pieces.

I agree that it was his first game back in a while but at times he was a liability in the centre, play him full back for a few games see how he does, if it doesnt work at least with the games he has had his touch and fitness would be on its way back.

by **Sabre** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:49 pm

Give Agger time. No I'm not denying he's not being solid at the moment, nor saying not to post so, I'm talking about time in the long term. I don't know you but I've known few CB that were world class at Agger's age.

It's not a prediction based on his good passing and that he has a better technique than any Spanish international at his position in the last two decades (I'm talking about what I know). It's also based, and here correct me if I'm wrong, that him and Carra proved to be reliable 2 years ago. Last season do not count because it was a nightmare, and now he just needs matches IMHO.

I haven't googled it, so if I have done a "happy clappy" selection of memories and I'm wrong to claim that, let me know, but that's the idea I have.

3 years ago, I was worried síck because our two best CB were getting older and I found the transition of a key position in any team a very delicate topic. I think that Rafa has done well to ensure a good future in that department. Agger will get only better decissions and will make less mistakes with experience. If he has the right attitude we could be talking about one of the great CB in the future.

P.S. About the topic of the thread, it doesn't seem mad because Agger has good attributes to be a holding midfielder, but that isn't enough always. Meaning I'm pretty sure he could do the job in a small team, but not at a big level.

P.S.2. I wouldn't try him as a LB neither. He needs experience and matches not learning a new position, and he will have them because Hyypia and Carra are getting older. So far, bar the super injury and the coming back, I think he has done pretty well.

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