JoeTerp wrote:JoeTerp wrote:Sabre wrote:Then following an obvious roasting at half time (from Sammy Lee I heard) we saw
I looked for the context of roasting in urbandictionary.com and it's related to sex. I guess it means he was very angry and shouted the players?
If so, that's interesting, because I always found the ex Liverpool and Osasuna player as the fella who would tap the player's back to compensate Rafa's "coldness".
never in my life have I heard of roasting in a sexual context.
this is what I think of when I think of roasting :
Full Metal Jacket
roasting can also be when a bunch of people get together at a banquet type event and all make fun of one person in order to "honor" them. This was made famous by the New York Friars Club. You couldn't become a member until all the current members roasted you (mostly comedians and other entertainer types).
I am guessing the "sexual" stuff comes from a synnonym synonym for roasting which would be "rip (him) a new @rsehole/(one)" but that really doesn't have anything to do with sex, its just a figure of speech.
Leonmc0708 wrote:Stay off topic on this one please - and post pics.
Thanks
s@int wrote:I am still trying to get over the fact that everyone is talking about sex........ and Judge made a football post
Sabre wrote:GYBS wrote:i see you didnt mention torres glaring missed chance which was easier than kuyts .
No it wasn't as far as I recall it
I don't like slagging Kuyt eh?, but the required technical gesture in Torres action was more difficult, the ball came after a bounce and fast, in Kuyt's ball the ball from Riera just came to Kuyt's foot. In fact Torres did well the most difficult part of attacking the ball but failed in the touch.
s@int wrote:I am still trying to get over the fact that everyone is talking about sex........ and Judge made a football post
GYBS wrote:Sabre wrote:GYBS wrote:i see you didnt mention torres glaring missed chance which was easier than kuyts .
No it wasn't as far as I recall it
I don't like slagging Kuyt eh?, but the required technical gesture in Torres action was more difficult, the ball came after a bounce and fast, in Kuyt's ball the ball from Riera just came to Kuyt's foot. In fact Torres did well the most difficult part of attacking the ball but failed in the touch.
torres had the net wide open in front of him with no one else around , they were both glaring misses but as usual one gets highlighted. ie the one from kuyt
Sabre wrote:s@int wrote:FFS Torres had already scored 2 goals (in the game..... not this year!) so I think any leeway he was given for missing that chance was quite reasonable ? Kuyt missed a decent chance early in the game, played poorly for the rest of the match but got the winner. Maybe if he KEEPS on getting the winner, people will start giving him a little more leeway too!
More winners will come mate, or at least more goals.
Kuyt does something well as of late compared to Pennant, when Riera reaches the bottom and crosses, he normally occupies a position somewhere in the second post. So, ok, he missed it, but at least he was in the right place to miss it, and, with Riera those crosses will be more frequent. I wouldn't be surprised if Kuyt had much better numbers this season.
Apart from the goal, I think he was made a clear penalty (he was him no?). I know GBYS has gone a bit too far in some comparisons in the past, but when he says the people only focus on his mistakes, I think that's a fair shout. In fact mate, we always had a scapegoat these seasons, Zenden, Kuyt, Traoré...
Owzat wrote:Fo Dne wrote:1. To you it might have seemed sensible, to Keane and a few other players in the team, awell as some supporters, it would probably seem stupid. Changing your best players position, dropping a striker who's just scored in order to give a midfielder a game is plain stupidity. It was only the fact he realised how stupid a mistake it was then decided to correct it we won the game.
Yeah, so stupid to employ TACTICS and change formation to counter the opposition's ATTACKING THREAT by playing cover in midfield, to try and control possession and nullify said threat. Much better to play two strikers, because one has scored in the last game, ignoring completely the fact that with two up front we'd have lost our midfield advantage and the two strikers would quite possibly been stood upfield starved of supply.
As for the latter sentence, ballacks. The starting XI turned the game, Keane nearly contributed to the comeback but didn't turn the game around as you're suggesting. Even if the starting tactics hadn't worked it wouldn't make the decision incorrect.
Of course had it been a home game then keeping the same XI would have probably been correct
Fo Dne wrote:Owzat wrote:Fo Dne wrote:1. To you it might have seemed sensible, to Keane and a few other players in the team, awell as some supporters, it would probably seem stupid. Changing your best players position, dropping a striker who's just scored in order to give a midfielder a game is plain stupidity. It was only the fact he realised how stupid a mistake it was then decided to correct it we won the game.
Yeah, so stupid to employ TACTICS and change formation to counter the opposition's ATTACKING THREAT by playing cover in midfield, to try and control possession and nullify said threat. Much better to play two strikers, because one has scored in the last game, ignoring completely the fact that with two up front we'd have lost our midfield advantage and the two strikers would quite possibly been stood upfield starved of supply.
As for the latter sentence, ballacks. The starting XI turned the game, Keane nearly contributed to the comeback but didn't turn the game around as you're suggesting. Even if the starting tactics hadn't worked it wouldn't make the decision incorrect.
Of course had it been a home game then keeping the same XI would have probably been correct
Yeah, totally, Gerrard and Alonso aren't good enough to dominate a midfield away from home.
For the record, Mascherano had a complete shocker aswell. We got back into the game with the starting eleven, the changes had a massive impact in the play, allowing us to platy much higher up the pitch, the also helped get more out of Gerrard and Keane contributed more in 25 minutes than Mascherano did in 65.
How anyone can sit there and say the subs weren't the turning point is completely beyond me. Also, I didn't see us lose control against City's wonderful team (that Gerrard and Xabi) couldn't cope with when Keane actually did replace Mascherano. As I said, if anything that pushed us up another gear.
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