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Festy wrote:

Bad Bob wrote:Are we seriously going to worry so much about Stoke that we'll completely reorganize our back four to deal with their 'threat'?  Bollox to that!

No we are not going to worry but Rafa will. It's in his blood to always choose starting 11 according to his opponent. And don't forget it'll be our 3rd game in a week so he's more than likely to rotate.

Oh I don't doubt he'll make some changes, mate.  If one of those changes is playing Carragher at RB, however, as a way of addressing the aerial threat of Stoke on diagonal balls, I'll eat my hat.

maypaxvobiscum wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:

maypaxvobiscum wrote:this gerrard debate got me thinking
1) how many times did we win with him in the centre and with him on the right?
2) how many goals did we score when he was on the right?
3) how much more of an attacking threat are we?
4) is the really best in CM? cos i personally dont think so as i feel he is hindering alonso's game.

1) Can't be used to judge anything as he has played in the middle more often , you could base the % if he has played equal games in both positions

2) Again can't tell you that unless someone can find the stats

3) Well if gerrard was on the right and we had xabi and alonso in the middle we're not really an attacking threat now are we .
 
4)First season they both played in the middle and alonso was still superb? How is gerrard playing in the middle affecting alonso's game now? Last season he was playing as a 2nd striker in the 4-5-1 and still alonso was not performing , i don't think you have a valid point there

1) we're better at opening up defences when gerrard was on the right. at least he had the skill and ability to dribble and control instead of having the ball bounce of him.
2) dont think its far off to assume that he scored more goals in that one season then all our right wingers combined.
3) of course we arent any threat when we have xabi AND alonso playing in the middle.
4) why does xabi seem to step up when gerrard isnt playing? wasnt the first season something like ''kewell-momo-alonso-gerrard''?

put it another way...who would get you the goals? kuyt, gerrard and xabi/mash OR xabi, mash and gerrard?

Festy wrote:I'd rather put Carra at right than Arba until Degen is fit.

Ben1988 wrote:would you not like to see an on form ryan bable down that right wing rather than kuyt? im not havin a pop at kuyt i like the guy but i think that if bable can play like he has shown he can i would love 2 see him starting for us week in week out down the right with riera on the left

Don't let Fo Dne hear you say that he never speak to you agian. 

Like that would be the worst thing. 

stmichael wrote:I think we're starting to see Rafa's vision which I'm hoping he is proved correct similar to the zonal marking topic. It's becoming increasingly obvious that we have no preferred starting 11 or formation and each selection is based on the opposition we are playing and the strategy we are employing.

Ben1988 wrote:Why not? Sort of person who doesnt like too listen to other peoples opinions? 

No he just thinks babel is pile of that isn't worthy to wear the red shirt.

Tho I been saying since day one babel will be a great player for us.

LegBarnes wrote:

stmichael wrote:I think we're starting to see Rafa's vision which I'm hoping he is proved correct similar to the zonal marking topic. It's becoming increasingly obvious that we have no preferred starting 11 or formation and each selection is based on the opposition we are playing and the strategy we are employing.

One thing I like about rafa St. is fact he makes the other managers think and earn there wage. Most managers just pick same formation and you know what to exspect but I really think teams fear us now , Just cos they don't know how we will setup week in week out.

Ben1988 wrote:I'd like to know his reasons why..... I think he offers so much that we need atm an will hopefully get better and better.

look on the ryan babel topic and you see what people think mate but I warn you , you won't like it.