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Postby crazyhorse » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:34 pm

OK... I dont believe that I have seen this done on the forum and thought it would be a bit of fun. From the clues in the post below, identify the person from Liverpool FC history.

It can be a past player/manager/coach - ANY MEMBER OF FULL TIME STAFF IN THE PAST OR PRESENT. I will start with an easy one!

Maybe we could all refrain from posting the answer until members have had a chance to have a go at it (PM me if you want confirmation that you have it right). I will post the answer and a brief bibliography of the person lunchtime tomorrow along with members who got it right if they wish.

For the younger forum members this may be a chance to learn a bit about someone from the clubs history, anyway I leave that up to you.


" I was born in the Liverpool area and started my life as an apprentice electrician before being signed by then manager Don Welsh. I made my debut in a 3-2 defeat at Derby County, and went on to make 343 appearances in the first team scoring 14 goals, mainly from left back I was also very good at taking panalties and became an expert. I played my final game in a European Cup Semi against Inter Milan at the San Siro but missed out on the FA cup final a few days before. I spent my whole career at LFC. WHO AM I???"

I have left a lot out because I dont want to make this too easy!!! but that is a clue in itself! Try and get it without the aid of the net!
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Postby GYBS » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:43 pm

Sorry edited post as re read your post
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:01 pm

can we google? :D
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Postby crazyhorse » Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:03 pm

If you are stuck I will PM you a clue!  :)
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Postby Bad Bob » Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:45 pm

Fantastic thread idea Crazy Horse! :buttrock
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Postby GRAHAM01 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:23 pm

sorry i should learn to read properly  :sniffle
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Postby Reg » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:33 pm

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Postby Leonmc0708 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:16 pm

dont see the point of not guessing meself like.

Its like a delayed google.
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Postby Effes » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:55 pm

Arent we supposed to ask closed questions?

Are you a man or a woman? :D
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Postby NANNY RED » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:17 pm

Edited sorry i posted an answer
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Postby crazyhorse » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:37 pm

The point of not posting the answers on the thread was to give everyone a chance to have a guess, do a bit of research and for younger supporters on the forum to find out something new about the clubs history.. The old sweats would have got this quickly, but as he has been retired for ten years some young ones may not have heard of him.

This was designed to go with what is my 1000th post, a tally it has taken four years to get to. I wanted to do something a bit different not seen on the forum before and to maybe start something that we could do every week, like the Friday five..
Picking someone from the clubs history, finding out a bit about him and maybe taking the chance to pay homage to his ahievements..

Anyway, as prominsed a Bio of the person - Ronnie Moran - LEGEND and last surviving member of the boot room. Now 74 and still bessotted with the reds. A true Legend.

Ronnie Moran is a former Liverpool captain and coach, who has twice served as caretaker manager (after the departures of Kenny Dalglish and Graeme Souness respectively). He was the club's longest-serving employee when he retired in 1999, and he is the only surviving member of the original Liverpool Boot Room, with Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Joe Fagan, and Reuben Bennett having all passed on.

He was born in Crosby, just outside Liverpool on February 28, 1934. He began his footballing career at Liverpool as an apprentice electrician playing with the 'C' team. Originally a left back, Moran signed professional terms for manager Don Welsh in January 1952 and subsequently made his debut in a 3-2 defeat at Derby County on November 22, 1952. He was just 18 years old.

It was in season 1955-56 that Moran established himself as Liverpool's first choice number three. The Reds were languishing in the Second Division at this time but Moran, a good marker who was rarely beaten by a winger for pace and was also something of a penalty expert, proved himself a consistent performer missing only six games between 1955 and 1959.

He was rewarded for his sterling service towards the latter part of the decade when he was handed the club captaincy. In 1961-62, after a lengthy spell on the sidelines, he played sixteen games as the Reds finally regained their top-flight status and two seasons later was part of the Division One Championship winning side missing only seven games all season.

Injury problems then began to set in and he missed out to Gerry Byrne for the left back slot in the 1965 FA Cup Final win over Leeds United. He did, however, play in the famous Anfield victory over Inter Milan three days later before playing his last competitive game for the Reds in the awesome setting of the San Siro stadium when Liverpool were controversially beaten in the second leg of the European Cup semi-final.

In 1966 Moran was invited onto the coaching staff by Bill Shankly though he continued playing for Joe Fagan's reserves for a further two years, helping to bring on the younger players. He formally retired from playing during the 1968-69 season and joined the coaching staff full time, where he became a part of the famous Boot Room team. In 1971 he took charge of the reserve team and in 1972-73 guided the Reds' second string to the Central League Championship.

Moran, or 'Bugsy' as he had become known, became a vital ingredient in the Liverpool success story with his shrewd knowledge of the game and the ability to get the best out of the players. In a spectacularly successful period for the club he was a fine, loyal servant working first under Shankly, Bob Paisley, Joe Fagan and then Kenny Dalglish, and later for Graeme Souness and Roy Evans.

In keeping with the Boot Room traditions he never sought the limelight, never promoted himself above his colleagues or the team. He became famous on the bench for his loud voice shouting instructions to the players which could be heard in the packed Kop.

When Dalglish sensationally announced his resignation as manager in 1991, Moran was installed as 'caretaker' boss, a role he occupied for only ten games. He had placed on record an unwillingness to take the job on full-time and summarily stood down when Graeme Souness was duly appointed as Dalglish's successor.

Moran remained on the coaching staff under Souness and then under friend Roy Evans when he took over as manager. Evans became the ninth manager Moran had worked under at the club in one capacity or another in his near half century of dedicated service, the full list being:

George Kay, Don Welsh, Phil Taylor, Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Joe Fagan, Kenny Dalglish, Graeme Souness, Roy Evans.

Ronnie Moran finally announced his retirement from football and left Liverpool in 1998. Along with the great Bob Paisley, he had filled every role imagineable at the club from player, to physio, to coach and trainer, through to manager.

Perhaps though, like his great Boot Room colleague Joe Fagan, Moran is destined to be remembered most for his years of unstinting loyalty as a coach, a key member of the Boot Room set up which was the cornerstone of English football's greatest ever success story.

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Postby red37 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:16 pm

Absolute Gent - top top man.
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:19 pm

Pretty sure Roy Evans is still with us as I spoke to his lad the other day, so I dont think he (Ronnie Moran) is the last surviving member of the bootroom like.

Good info though.
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Postby red37 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:21 pm

Crazy do another one mate
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Postby NANNY RED » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:27 pm

Just a quick question  Red you should be able to answer me this its been doing my head in since i read this thread.

Who was the last surviving member at the club from the Shankly era
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