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by **112-1077774096** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:21 am

just edit your posts and replace them with smileys mate

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:24 am

done. literally.

by **MASTER** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:35 am

But that only takes 4 years in to the barren spell.
Maybe it was arrogance from the owners that after Souness left that simply going back to the Liverpool way would bring the glory back.
Instead we should have been trying to find better ways to coach and train players rather than simply trying to win the title with Colllymore, Berger, James, Fowler etc.

by **GYBS** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:44 am

You can also add kenny and evans to the list as well if you want - Souness was left with a very ageing squad that need replacing . evans just went for all attacking football without even thinking about defence. if he had bought maybe one or two decent cbs then we would of won the title in the 90s.

by **112-1077774096** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:56 am

GYBS wrote:You can also add kenny and evans to the list as well if you want - Souness was left with a very ageing squad that need replacing . evans just went for all attacking football without even thinking about defence. if he had bought maybe one or two decent cbs then we would of won the title in the 90s.

in fowlers autobiography he says evans was refused money to buy centre backs

by **Ciggy** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:00 am

It went pear shaped when kenny Dalglish left we never recovered from that.

by **GYBS** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:06 am

peewee wrote:
GYBS wrote:You can also add kenny and evans to the list as well if you want - Souness was left with a very ageing squad that need replacing . evans just went for all attacking football without even thinking about defence. if he had bought maybe one or two decent cbs then we would of won the title in the 90s.

in fowlers autobiography he says evans was refused money to buy centre backs

Yet found the money to break records buying scales ruddock and babb as centre backs

?

by **112-1077774096** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:11 am

GYBS wrote:
peewee wrote:
GYBS wrote:You can also add kenny and evans to the list as well if you want - Souness was left with a very ageing squad that need replacing . evans just went for all attacking football without even thinking about defence. if he had bought maybe one or two decent cbs then we would of won the title in the 90s.

in fowlers autobiography he says evans was refused money to buy centre backs

Yet found the money to break records buying scales ruddock and babb as centre backs ?

have you read the book? sorry i assumed you had read it, maybe i should have made it clearer. evans was refused money to buy a centre back at a specific time when one was needed which fowler reckons could have brought us the title

by **GYBS** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:13 am

peewee wrote:
GYBS wrote:
peewee wrote:
GYBS wrote:You can also add kenny and evans to the list as well if you want - Souness was left with a very ageing squad that need replacing . evans just went for all attacking football without even thinking about defence. if he had bought maybe one or two decent cbs then we would of won the title in the 90s.

in fowlers autobiography he says evans was refused money to buy centre backs

Yet found the money to break records buying scales ruddock and babb as centre backs ?

have you read the book? sorry i assumed you had read it, maybe i should have made it clearer. evans was refused money to buy a centre back at a specific time when one was needed which fowler reckons could have brought us the title

was evans refused money cause he already had blown millions (in those days ) on three cbs ? or was it before he bought the three amigos ?

No not read his book .

by **Roger Red Hat** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:13 am

Ciggy wrote:It went pear shaped when kenny Dalglish left we never recovered from that.

The team did need a change around though. Sir Bob inherited a good team but dismantled it and rebuilt a better team, so did Kenny to a point but that team was getting tired.

However, Souness wasn't and still isn't fit to lick Kenny's boots clean in my opinion, I just never really liked the man.

by **112-1077774096** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:15 am

also souness bought ruddock in 1993, evans took over in 94

by **GYBS** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:18 am

peewee wrote:also souness bought ruddock in 1993, evans took over in 94

Ok so evans spent money on getting babb and scales . who were both quite expensive at the time .

by **figgis** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:29 am

you could also argue the emergence of huge investment in other clubs Blackburn for example and the emergence of man ure. plus sky sudenly pumping milions in. its a combination of a lot of things bad luck bad managers and lack of vision and investment plus the prem aint easy to win.

by **Bretc** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:58 am

I agree, Souness was the MAIN cause for our decline. Of cos, it didn't help that the period also coincided with the emergence of the talented Man Utd youth cohort, comprising of Giggs, Beckham, Scholes etc. But Souness MUST take the bulk of the blame for TOTALLY destroying a GREAT team and building a MEDIOCRE team. Yes, he brought in McManaman and Fowler but the damage that he inflicted was so great that it was irreversible even extending to the Evans, Houllier's and the current era.

Evans improved the team as a whole - he was almost there but too bad we had a dodgy defence and a crazy David James in goal. Houllier started well but the signings of Diouf, Diao, Cheyrou etc brought about his downfall and fortunately so as I can't stand his style of football.

Rafa faced an uphill task as he has gotto contend with the mights of Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelski when he took over. While I do not agree with some of his decisions sometime, I can see that he's slowly building up a good team and we have a strong youth spine waiting to make the step up in 1 or 2 seasons. One thing he should do is to stop complaining about the lack of transfer funds. In my opinion, he has spent a fair amount of $$$. For every 2 or 3 average signings e.g. Josemi, Gonzalez, Pennant etc, he can easily sign a world-class player. He must stop the habit of signing quantity iso quality. But we'll get there sooner or later as long as we do not destroy the current team setup.

by **stmichael** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:04 pm

i blame dirk kuyt.

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