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stmichael wrote:Looking at it, as I said previously, I think Rafa made a mistake opting for the cheaper option of trying to obtain width through the full backs. I suspect he was relying on bringing in Barry and using his versatility on the left of midfield/left back to provide cover for Dossena to overlap him in our attacking movements

I've also mentioned on another thread that I think we would have been best served by saving the money on Keane (even thought I really like him as a player) and using Babel as a back up for Torres.

A.B. 08 wrote:Its far too simplistic to say that the lack of width is the reason why the vast majority of our players are under performing. Its not to say that its not an issue, its been an issue since John Barnes left.

We lacked width last season, and scored a high number of goals without it. Now all of a sudden everyone is under performing because they have discovered that they don't have wingers in the squad?

LegBarnes wrote:

A.B. 08 wrote:Its far too simplistic to say that the lack of width is the reason why the vast majority of our players are under performing. Its not to say that its not an issue, its been an issue since John Barnes left.

We lacked width last season, and scored a high number of goals without it. Now all of a sudden everyone is under performing because they have discovered that they don't have wingers in the squad?

This is how I feel to I said it in many posts my man barnes was the last effective wide player i remeber in a LFC shirt.

Mabye berger was ok but alot of time cut inside to shoot.

Fo Dne just above me stop now we get idea you don't like babel drop now ok.

Fo Dne wrote:

LegBarnes wrote:

A.B. 08 wrote:Its far too simplistic to say that the lack of width is the reason why the vast majority of our players are under performing. Its not to say that its not an issue, its been an issue since John Barnes left.

We lacked width last season, and scored a high number of goals without it. Now all of a sudden everyone is under performing because they have discovered that they don't have wingers in the squad?

This is how I feel to I said it in many posts my man barnes was the last effective wide player i remeber in a LFC shirt.

Mabye berger was ok but alot of time cut inside to shoot.

Fo Dne just above me stop now we get idea you don't like babel drop now ok.

Al drop it when players like Babel and Kuyt have left the club.

We lack quality in far to many positions and makes our good players look poor. Not to mention Keane's found absoloutely no form of his own as of yet.

We need at least three first teamers before we can challenge, its always the same. We're still miles away.

aCe' wrote:

Fo Dne wrote:

LegBarnes wrote:

A.B. 08 wrote:Its far too simplistic to say that the lack of width is the reason why the vast majority of our players are under performing. Its not to say that its not an issue, its been an issue since John Barnes left.

We lacked width last season, and scored a high number of goals without it. Now all of a sudden everyone is under performing because they have discovered that they don't have wingers in the squad?

This is how I feel to I said it in many posts my man barnes was the last effective wide player i remeber in a LFC shirt.

Mabye berger was ok but alot of time cut inside to shoot.

Fo Dne just above me stop now we get idea you don't like babel drop now ok.

Al drop it when players like Babel and Kuyt have left the club.

We lack quality in far to many positions and makes our good players look poor. Not to mention Keane's found absoloutely no form of his own as of yet.

We need at least three first teamers before we can challenge, its always the same. We're still miles away.

Babel should be given until the end of this season to prove his worth imo ! ATM he isnt Liverpool standard but having said that i wouldnt be surprised if he turns out to a top class act in years to come if he could improve certain aspects of his game ( movement off the ball and overall vision when picking a pass and deciding what to do with ball at feet). 
Kuyt is a whole different story... while hes given it his all in every game hes played he certainly wont ever become a top class player in any position. in my opinion he is only here until we can afford a better replacement.

The main problem i seem to be having with all that has been going on is our signings. While everyone can see that we have some outstanding players in some positions (Gerrard, Mascherano and Torres) we seem to be reluctant or rather unwilling to spend big on players in other positions we need to fill. Problem is not the owners from where i stand, its the manager and his poor decision making in the transfer market.

aCe' wrote:

Fo Dne wrote:

LegBarnes wrote:

A.B. 08 wrote:Its far too simplistic to say that the lack of width is the reason why the vast majority of our players are under performing. Its not to say that its not an issue, its been an issue since John Barnes left.

We lacked width last season, and scored a high number of goals without it. Now all of a sudden everyone is under performing because they have discovered that they don't have wingers in the squad?

This is how I feel to I said it in many posts my man barnes was the last effective wide player i remeber in a LFC shirt.

Mabye berger was ok but alot of time cut inside to shoot.

Fo Dne just above me stop now we get idea you don't like babel drop now ok.

Al drop it when players like Babel and Kuyt have left the club.

We lack quality in far to many positions and makes our good players look poor. Not to mention Keane's found absoloutely no form of his own as of yet.

We need at least three first teamers before we can challenge, its always the same. We're still miles away.

Babel should be given until the end of this season to prove his worth imo ! ATM he isnt Liverpool standard but having said that i wouldnt be surprised if he turns out to a top class act in years to come if he could improve certain aspects of his game ( movement off the ball and overall vision when picking a pass and deciding what to do with ball at feet). 
Kuyt is a whole different story... while hes given it his all in every game hes played he certainly wont ever become a top class player in any position. in my opinion he is only here until we can afford a better replacement.

The main problem i seem to be having with all that has been going on is our signings. While everyone can see that we have some outstanding players in some positions (Gerrard, Mascherano and Torres) we seem to be reluctant or rather unwilling to spend big on players in other positions we need to fill. Problem is not the owners from where i stand, its the manager and his poor decision making in the transfer market.

Lets just give every pile of two years to prove themselves then.

Fo Dne wrote:

aCe' wrote:

Fo Dne wrote:

LegBarnes wrote:

A.B. 08 wrote:Its far too simplistic to say that the lack of width is the reason why the vast majority of our players are under performing. Its not to say that its not an issue, its been an issue since John Barnes left.

We lacked width last season, and scored a high number of goals without it. Now all of a sudden everyone is under performing because they have discovered that they don't have wingers in the squad?

This is how I feel to I said it in many posts my man barnes was the last effective wide player i remeber in a LFC shirt.

Mabye berger was ok but alot of time cut inside to shoot.

Fo Dne just above me stop now we get idea you don't like babel drop now ok.

Al drop it when players like Babel and Kuyt have left the club.

We lack quality in far to many positions and makes our good players look poor. Not to mention Keane's found absoloutely no form of his own as of yet.

We need at least three first teamers before we can challenge, its always the same. We're still miles away.

Babel should be given until the end of this season to prove his worth imo ! ATM he isnt Liverpool standard but having said that i wouldnt be surprised if he turns out to a top class act in years to come if he could improve certain aspects of his game ( movement off the ball and overall vision when picking a pass and deciding what to do with ball at feet). 
Kuyt is a whole different story... while hes given it his all in every game hes played he certainly wont ever become a top class player in any position. in my opinion he is only here until we can afford a better replacement.

The main problem i seem to be having with all that has been going on is our signings. While everyone can see that we have some outstanding players in some positions (Gerrard, Mascherano and Torres) we seem to be reluctant or rather unwilling to spend big on players in other positions we need to fill. Problem is not the owners from where i stand, its the manager and his poor decision making in the transfer market.

Lets just give every pile of two years to prove themselves then.

lets just write off every young player after their first year in the premiership

7_Kewell wrote:i've always thought we've lacked flair on the flanks since we lost McManaman. Since he left i haven't seen any LFC midfielder(bar gerrard) who can take the ball and run at people on the flanks.

says the member named 7_kewell