Neils question - Bumping old threads

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Postby woof woof ! » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:18 pm

Neil started a poll on the question of bumping old threads. Unfortunately he left no facility for a discussion on the question (poll only), his poll has therefore been moved to the non footy poll section.

The subject however is imo worth discussing. What are your views on the bumping of old threads ?

Personally I see nothing wrong with bumping a thread that is still in some way relevant or continues to provide a laugh. However many threads that are bumped don't contain either of the above criteria, as is evidenced by the fact that the vast majority of bumped threads receive little in the way of an enthusiastic response and they tend to die again almost as soon as they've been resurrected. Most of the time (imo) thread bumping is a pointless excercise , that only the serial thread bumpers themselves seem to enjoy.
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Postby LFC2007 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:33 pm

I think there's a plural there that shouldn't be, for the reason that there is only one serial thread bumper.
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Postby red37 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:36 pm

woof woof ! wrote:Personally I see nothing wrong with bumping a thread that is still in some way relevant or continues to provide a laugh.

And therein lies the discerning criteria for me...

Not some f*cking 18 month old debate about some daft buggars lack of body mass. For instance.

By all means resurrect the wheat from the chaff. Though in all honesty, and it does happen frequently where an occasional mention will come about on the boards that reminds someone of an old and well ripened discussion - thats great, search away. Redeem the topic and add to its treasures.

However, I take exception to those who go out of their way to trawl through countless dozens of pages, purposely looking for absolutely anything and everything (perhaps related to a mucker who they feel deserves additional exposure) in order to attract 'attention' or worse...add to their copious post count, as though adding gravitas to the size of their virtual c*ck.

My philosophy: Bump it or Dump it. But only if you feel it deserves further debate - not just for the sake of using a smiley, or a tenuous link to a previous car crash of a discussion. Discretion is always available to us all on that score.
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Postby Judge » Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:04 pm

LFC2007 wrote:I think there's a plural there that shouldn't be, for the reason that there is only one serial thread bumper.

this thread bumped

this thread was bumped after several, just to say the end

now matey, there have been several bumps of late and in the past, all of which have been done by different members, i  yself have bumped threads, BUT, equally threads have been bumped on several occasions by one memeber lots of times, and several threads on more than one occasion by the same person

St mike has also bumped a thread on more than one occasion, so has woof, me, and numerous others

my point is the plural is justified

therefore, end of education lesson
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Postby woof woof ! » Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:20 pm

Judge wrote:the plural is justified

Wish I could say that about the stuff you keep raising from the dead.

Your not the only serial spammer (oop's) sorry meant to say thread bumper (same thing I suppose), but you've certainly earned yourself a place on the podium.
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Postby LFC2007 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:20 pm

Judge wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:I think there's a plural there that shouldn't be, for the reason that there is only one serial thread bumper.

this thread bumped

this thread was bumped after several, just to say the end

now matey, there have been several bumps of late and in the past, all of which have been done by different members, i  yself have bumped threads, BUT, equally threads have been bumped on several occasions by one memeber lots of times, and several threads on more than one occasion by the same person

St mike has also bumped a thread on more than one occasion, so has woof, me, and numerous others

my point is the plural is justified

therefore, end of education lesson

I checked with Owzat and he told me that, statistically, you're well ahead of everyone else - therefore, plural is not justified.  :D
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Postby Sabre » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:08 pm

Like most of the network etiquette rules, the "not bump old threads" rule has it purpose and must not be applied literally.

For instance, it's commonly accepted that writing everything in CAPS is difficult to read and that's discouraged, but no-one should understand that a line that it's in caps to highlight something is to shout.

Bumping old threads is a similar case. Bumping an old thread that has run it's course and might bring back needless discussions should be avoided, especially if the discussion will go on circles again.

Bumping threads for the sake of it should be avoided aswell, IMHO, the mods lock many polls with a right criteria.

It's not aeasy to know where is the frontier always, and that's why mods have a difficult job. For instance we encourage to open a thread per topic. But imagine that a topic is not touched for 3 weeks. Should we recover the topic of 3 weeks ago, or a new one? it's not always easy to tell.

In the other hand there are cases in which bumping an old thread is fair. Right now, we're giving stick to Voronin and no-one defends him. If in December he's scored 16 goals and there are people saying "I told you so, he's great", then I'd find fair to recover a nowadays thread to prove the point that the player hadn't support in the past. It's fair, because it puts in perspective the opinions.

I think that the mods as a whole have done a good job in their decissions most of the time. Of course they might make the odd mistake because they're humans. Perhaps the only criticism I'd make is that when they do lock the thread, they explain exactly why, rather than a " :no , this thread is locked".

Why? because most users are not aware of those rules and their purpose, and because most users are not as regular as them writing here so they don't know what's going on.

It's up to the mods to decide when we're in a case or in another, and I'm afraid we cannot ask the mods a fixed criteria because in this case is imposssible, it's up to their interpretation.
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Postby J*o*n*D*o*e » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:27 pm

bumping old birds is something that should be avoided, not sure about old threads
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Postby Kharhaz » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:06 pm

I think bumping threads in the General Chat section doesnt seem as bad as bumping in the football ones. General Chat has a lot of classic threads and not only worth a read as to what has been said but also some topics can still be enjoyed today, for instance the jokes, books and movie ones can be added to. The football one can be annoying when topics are bumped regarding team selections or matches under previous managers as it just seems pointless. But like I said some can be funny, the famous "Will we beat blackpool?" one for instance in the poll section. I think bumping threads in some sections isnt as bad as others.
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Postby neil » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:18 pm

woof woof ! wrote:.. his poll has therefore been moved to the non footy poll section....

I just started it in the general chat section alongside the poll re 'pick the puppy's name' which remains in general chat, maybe thats an insight into the issue at hand.
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Postby account deleted by request » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:18 am

When things are pretty quiet like at the moment, with only a couple of decent threads really on the go, I don't mind people bumping old threads, at other times when there are a few good threads (usually mine :D ) on the go, I think bumping old threads just spams up the forum.

I don't like the none discussion polls very much, as most of the time its not a black and white clear cut issue and comments help to clear up points of view.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:52 am

What's the bets some soft sod (no names ) will bump this fecker after a few weeks.
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Postby laza » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:16 am

Serial thread thumping as annoying as phone pranksters 

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Postby 112-1077774096 » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:51 am

does it really matter if an old thread is bumped? does it cause that much hardship for people to either write in it or ignore it?

if someone wants to bump an occasional thread then so what, its no different to some new threads that some of us have no interest in, we can choose to ignore it
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Postby woof woof ! » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:49 am

neil wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:.. his poll has therefore been moved to the non footy poll section....

I just started it in the general chat section alongside the poll re 'pick the puppy's name' which remains in general chat, maybe thats an insight into the issue at hand.

Neil , unlike Peewee's "Name the Puppy" thread you created a poll (vote) only thread, you did not allow for any discussion, if you had, it wouldn't have been moved and I wouldn't have started this thread.
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