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by **JoeTerp** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:00 am

Next summer might be better because the All Star game will be in Salt Lake City (opening up a new stadium) so Rafa could train at altitude like he likes to do, but I think they are going to push really hard to get Real Madrid because the team in Salt Lake is called Real Salt Lake :no

by **Roger Red Hat** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:26 am

We are a european club. we play our games in Europe against European opposition in European climates. Fk all point in trailing our ar$es 8hrs over the sea to play in hot conditions against a team of below standard footballers. nice cheer leaders though

by **heimdall** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:41 am

Lee J wrote:We are a european club. we play our games in Europe against European opposition in European climates. Fk all point in trailing our ar$es 8hrs over the sea to play in hot conditions against a team of below standard footballers. nice cheer leaders though

So Swiss footballers are more our level then???

by **RUSHIE#9** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:08 am

I believe we were forced to play games in Switzerland as part of Deggen's transfer. He wouldn't sign for Liverpool unless we promised him that we'd play in his homeland!!!!!!!

by **Roger Red Hat** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:46 am

well ya know, usa are :censored:

by **JoeTerp** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:25 pm

Lee J wrote:well ya know, usa are

strange that the newkit filter would censor "greatest country on the p.lanet"

by **cptrios** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:58 pm

Meh, I don't think it has anything to do with G&H's profile in the US...as far as I know, they HAVE no profile here. Only two kinds of sports owners gain national attention here. A: The owner of your local team, and B: An owner who's an over-involved, controlling nutjob (i.e. George Steinbrenner, Jerry West, Mark Cuban, etc.) LFC wouldn't be paraded around as G&H's boys at all...hell, along with Manure and Arsenal, they're the one of the only football clubs any Americans have actually heard of. So really, it would only up the team's profile.

I think it has a lot more to do, as was said earlier, with the fact that Americans don't have a whole lot of money to throw around at the moment. Hell, I went to see LFC play Celtic in Connecticut a couple of years ago, and it didn't even sell out the 30,000 seat stadium. Why bother playing a game like that when you can sell out 80,000 seats somewhere in China or Japan?

by **Owzat** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:02 pm

Lee J wrote:Fk all point in trailing our ar$es 8hrs over the sea to play in hot conditions against a team of below standard footballers.

Yeah, we could pop over the other side of Stanley Park to do that!

by **lakes10** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:12 pm

Owzat wrote:
Lee J wrote:Fk all point in trailing our ar$es 8hrs over the sea to play in hot conditions against a team of below standard footballers.

Yeah, we could pop over the other side of Stanley Park to do that!

our first two looked like they were

by **taff** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:54 pm

I would assume that a club of Liverpools size have their friendlies, tours etc sussed out well in advance possibly by over a year. I also assume that we will be in the USA next summer especially as there will be no euros, world cup or olympics. Probably playing a mini tournament somewhere. I also think this would have happened regardless of who the owners were

by **Roger Red Hat** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:54 pm

JoeTerp wrote:strange that the newkit filter would censor "greatest c.u.n.t.s on the p.lanet"

it'll be the word c.u.n.t.s that did it

dont get me started :angry:

by **SupitsJonF** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:23 pm

Lee J wrote:
JoeTerp wrote:strange that the newkit filter would censor "greatest c.u.n.t.s on the p.lanet"

it'll be the word c.u.n.t.s that did it

dont get me started

Why are you being such a p.rick? Your comment was unneeded, who cares what you think of them, no one. Keep it to yourself.

by **vlady16.1** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:20 pm

i was at the lfc porto game in toronto and yes it was sold out as was the celtic roma game the next night. lfc has quite a following over here. mls is getting better and basically the toronto team sells out every game. we aren't totally ignorant over here and this is an excellent market which is hardly tapped yet.
don't worry about the economy...unemployment in the us is up to 5.5% so it ain't all bad. if lfc came here in the format like last time...a mini tourney then they would certainly sell out.

by **66-1112520797** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:17 am

SupitsJonF wrote:
Lee J wrote:
JoeTerp wrote:strange that the newkit filter would censor "greatest c.u.n.t.s on the p.lanet"

it'll be the word c.u.n.t.s that did it

dont get me started

Why are you being such a p.rick? Your comment was unneeded, who cares what you think of them, no one. Keep it to yourself.

I do.

Here read this article that Nanny posted up.

News Features

Soccer punch

There are, believe it or not, more hated Yanks overseas than George W. Bush: the Americans who own European football teams

By STEVEN STARK | July 16, 2008 | Recommended By 2 People

When Barack Obama arrives in England in a few weeks on his celebrated European tour, he’ll probably disembark assuming that George W. Bush is the most despised American in Britain.
If so, he’ll be wrong. Currently, sitting atop the most-hated Yank chart is Tom Hicks, co-owner of the Liverpool soccer club and a Texas businessman who ran with the same crowd as the incumbent president when Bush was governor of the Lone Star state.

Hicks is part of a growing wave of Americans who have purchased English soccer teams (including the owner of the NFL’s Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Malcolm Glazer, who now also owns controlling interest in the world’s most recognizable soccer team, Manchester United), convinced that owning a leading franchise in the top league of the world’s most popular game is a sure path to riches. Maybe so, but in the process Hicks — and, to a lesser extent, other American millionaires — managed to infuriate the locals.

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To be sure, it’s not just an American gold rush. The owner of the Chelsea club is a Russian businessman — one of the richest men in the world — named Roman Abramovich. And Manchester City’s squad was recently purchased by Thaksin Shinawatra, the disgraced former prime minister of Thailand.

But such purchases don’t tend to rile the Brits nearly as much because those men, extraordinarily wealthy as they are, have demonstrated a willingness to pour hundreds of millions into their new clubs. In contrast, some of the Americans have been accused of being too willing to use debt to fund their investment, making the team appear to be subject to the whims of the market — which, last anyone looked, isn’t doing so well.

What’s even worse from the locals’ perspective is that men like Hicks — who also owns MLB’s Texas Rangers and the NHL’s Dallas Stars — don’t seem to appreciate the traditions of a club like Liverpool, which has a place in the city and the nation’s heart is similar to that of the Boston Red Sox . . . times a hundred. That’s why Liverpudlians are practically begging for a group from Dubai to buy out Hicks and Co., and there has even been talk of Liverpool’s fans trying to pool their money and make a bid of their own.

Arrogant Americans
What has Hicks done wrong? To American eyes accustomed to the George Steinbrenners of the sports world, not much, as the team continues to perform relatively well on the field. But to apoplectic English and Liverpool fans, to whom tradition is vital, Hicks couldn’t be a more bumbling, stumbling embarrassment. In fact, when his son attended a game in February and went to a pub afterwards, he was spit upon, had beer thrown at him, and had to be rescued.

Hicks and his co-owner, Canadian George Gillett Jr. (owner of the NHL’s Montreal Canadiens), have publicly quarreled on more than one occasion. It was reported that Hicks had sounded out another potential manager (coach) for the team, undermining the current and highly respected skipper, Rafa Benitez. He even asked one of the club’s most solid links to the past, chief executive Rick Parry, to resign, on grounds he was disloyal (Parry refused). The always-excitable English press has occasionally taken to calling the team “Hicksville.”

But the final straw, for many fans, came two months later. While Liverpool played its key game of the year — a Champions League clash with Arsenal — Hicks stayed home in Texas to watch the Rangers on opening day. “I would never miss our home opener,” he was quoted as saying, “but I will have the Liverpool game on my TV.” That, of course, drove Liverpool fans bananas.

None of this, clearly, rises to the level of a foreign-policy crisis, of course. But it is indicative of a clash of cultures — of which Obama should be aware. Having lived in Europe recently, I can attest to the fact that most Europeans do like individual Americans (though not President Bush). But when they think about the United States, what does tend to irritate them is the arrogance of some Americans who convey the idea that everything stars-and-stripes is superior.

European soccer — especially in Liverpool — is something close to a sacred rite. What Bush buddy Hicks has done is akin to walking into a church, lighting a cigarette, and cracking open a beer. Note to Obama: the best way to reach out to our British friends and improve Anglo-American relations would be to get Hicks to sell the team.

by **SupitsJonF** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:15 pm

I have read it, but it doesn't have anything to do why games aren't played in America or how there is "no revenue" to get from hosting a LFC soccer game.

I'm not stupid I know everyone, myself included, hates Hicks, Gillette, and Bush. But three people out of millions and millions of a county is a very poor way to measure it.

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