My dissapointment in old blighty

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Postby 66-1112520797 » Sat May 31, 2008 9:12 pm

No it was grimmest.

But anyway carry on getting bogged down in semantics lass, as you clearly dont know what your talking about when concerning more important things.
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Postby bigmick » Sat May 31, 2008 10:33 pm

Well sh!thole or not, (and lets be honest the Uk is a bit of a sh!thole when it comes down to it) I must confess I miss it like feck and certainly wouldn't bet against spending a significant proportion of me remaining natural there. You can have as big a house as you like (and we've got a house over here we'd never be able to afford in England), the cleanest streets, the best weather, low crime and all that, but there's something about old blighty which you just can't get out of your system sometimes.

Maybe it's the banter, the boozers, the telly, the football, the politics, the culture, the diversity, the restaurants, the weather, the fact that Christmas falls in the middle of the period when the weathers sh!te and in so doing cheers everyone up a bit. Maybe it's the cricket, Lords, Wimbledon, the House of Commons, having a lucky 15 on a Saturday, or a football bet, going on the p!ss for a totally ill-advised all day sesh 'cos it's one of your mates 38th birthdays. Maybe it's dodgy kebabs, log fires, conversation with like minded people, population, the occasional forays into riding a bike or something equally daft before you go down the pub. Maybe it's holidays abroad, suntans, five quid flights, buses that don't turn up, passing a boring Saturday afternoon by watching England lose against Ireland in the six nations, maybe guessing which town people are from when you hear them speak.

It could be any of those things, a lot of em or none of em. Maybe it's just that it's home and it's what your used to. Whatever it is though that Rupert Brooke fella had it about right, as did the bloke who wrote that "and did those feet in ancient times" thing. All you feckers over there who think "I'd like to knock that smarmy know-all c... out" hold that thought, cos one day you might just get your chance   :;):
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Postby Kharhaz » Sat May 31, 2008 10:46 pm

Bamaga man wrote:
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Bamaga man wrote:We still have dirty hospitals, mixed wards, the NHS is no better off after having millions seemingly pumped into it.

Bollox.

Dirty hospitals?  When was the last time you were in one in britain then?

All this sh.it about C. diff, MRSA and other 'superbugs' in hospitals is blown out of all proportion by the British press.

For all the criticism the NHS gets, it is free and is a better standard of health care than the vast majority of other nations.

No its not bollox, maybe over whee ever the f.uck you live its up to your standard.

But Britain still has some of the grimmiest hospitals, fact !

You pay Natioinal insurance dont you ?

Hospitals are getting knocked down by the NHS because they cant afford and be bothered to run them, there malgimating the hospitals around my area and that is bollox.

My old Man went into hospital, and came out worse than he went in as he caught some dirty f.ucking viral infection.

Dont you dare sit there and tell me its bollox lad.

Priorities, in wages I think is to blame also. My opinion of course. When you look at wages you have the nurses right at the bottom then the police,firemen and teachers. With the exception of the nurses being at the bottom in no particular order. Recently there was a teachers strike. They wanted more money, my god, they get paid plenty with more holidays then everyone else and yet went on strike to get more. And yet you have the nurses who cannot afford to go on strike and the police who are not allowed. The hospitals have gone downhill, they are not the cleanest but like they say, "Pay peanuts, get monkeys".
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Sat May 31, 2008 10:50 pm

bigmick wrote:Well sh!thole or not, (and lets be honest the Uk is a bit of a sh!thole when it comes down to it) I must confess I miss it like feck and certainly wouldn't bet against spending a significant proportion of me remaining natural there. You can have as big a house as you like (and we've got a house over here we'd never be able to afford in England), the cleanest streets, the best weather, low crime and all that, but there's something about old blighty which you just can't get out of your system sometimes.

Maybe it's the banter, the boozers, the telly, the football, the politics, the culture, the diversity, the restaurants, the weather, the fact that Christmas falls in the middle of the period when the weathers sh!te and in so doing cheers everyone up a bit. Maybe it's the cricket, Lords, Wimbledon, the House of Commons, having a lucky 15 on a Saturday, or a football bet, going on the p!ss for a totally ill-advised all day sesh 'cos it's one of your mates 38th birthdays. Maybe it's dodgy kebabs, log fires, conversation with like minded people, population, the occasional forays into riding a bike or something equally daft before you go down the pub. Maybe it's holidays abroad, suntans, five quid flights, buses that don't turn up, passing a boring Saturday afternoon by watching England lose against Ireland in the six nations, maybe guessing which town people are from when you hear them speak.

It could be any of those things, a lot of em or none of em. Maybe it's just that it's home and it's what your used to. Whatever it is though that Rupert Brooke fella had it about right, as did the bloke who wrote that "and did those feet in ancient times" thing. All you feckers over there who think "I'd like to knock that smarmy know-all c... out" hold that thought, cos one day you might just get your chance   :;):

I had the same feeling before I ent over, I missed the place, really.

But as soon as I got there I realised what a drab s.hithole the place is and that I k\now know I could never settle there. The outdoor life over here, beats England alone, nevermind the politeness of people and so forth.

I dont know about you for definately, but I'd hedge a bet you'd feel the same if you went back there, if you didnt New Zealand cant be doing alot for you.  :D
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Sat May 31, 2008 10:57 pm

Kharhaz wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
john craig wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:We still have dirty hospitals, mixed wards, the NHS is no better off after having millions seemingly pumped into it.

Bollox.

Dirty hospitals?  When was the last time you were in one in britain then?

All this sh.it about C. diff, MRSA and other 'superbugs' in hospitals is blown out of all proportion by the British press.

For all the criticism the NHS gets, it is free and is a better standard of health care than the vast majority of other nations.

No its not bollox, maybe over whee ever the f.uck you live its up to your standard.

But Britain still has some of the grimmiest hospitals, fact !

You pay Natioinal insurance dont you ?

Hospitals are getting knocked down by the NHS because they cant afford and be bothered to run them, there malgimating the hospitals around my area and that is bollox.

My old Man went into hospital, and came out worse than he went in as he caught some dirty f.ucking viral infection.

Dont you dare sit there and tell me its bollox lad.

Priorities, in wages I think is to blame also. My opinion of course. When you look at wages you have the nurses right at the bottom then the police,firemen and teachers. With the exception of the nurses being at the bottom in no particular order. Recently there was a teachers strike. They wanted more money, my god, they get paid plenty with more holidays then everyone else and yet went on strike to get more. And yet you have the nurses who cannot afford to go on strike and the police who are not allowed. The hospitals have gone downhill, they are not the cleanest but like they say, "Pay peanuts, get monkeys".

That is true.

Not wanting to be too controversial here, but talking of strikes reminded me. Now before I go any further I'd just like to catergorically state England was a country for rich people when Margaret thatcher was prime minister. The poor got hit very badly due to recessions etc in the 80's I think.

But when she was in power at the time all the miners and dockers we're going on strike, I dont know if that was her fault they were going on strike. But anyway she introduced selling off council houses, for home owners. Again favouring the rich, IMO the less well off needed council houses, but she changed alot of that to given the richer the option to buy them.

Now what I'm about to say is just one of the reasons she could have done this, sell council houses off to people. Was to reduce the strikes. That being people who had already brought there council houses couldnt afford to go on strike, and hense kept them working, a kind of clever move there by Maggie.
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Postby bigmick » Sat May 31, 2008 10:59 pm

Well I'm back over for a couple of weeks in August Bam (brothers wedding). I can't stay any longer because of the business and also as I don't want to be away from the missus and kids for any longer than that. We said we'd give it three years when we first came, and we will but I must confess I'm finding it fairly tough to settle. I have good days and bad ones but although it's a beautiful place over here, it's probably the lack of like minded people (which I've met anyway) which grinds after a while. I've got a couple of lads I go for a beer with from time to time but it's different mate (as I guess it would be). Banter, p!ss taking and the like is on a kind of different level here and it's kind of like a santised version of a night on the p!ss it seems to me.

Missus is sweet as a nut as she's from here, similarly the kids are settled in as kids do. Ol' Micky though gets the homesick blues pretty bad sometimes if I'm honest, and time will tell if those blues for me are enough to uproot the whole family again :( Ah well feck it, I'm depressing meself here never mind you lot :D
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Sat May 31, 2008 11:07 pm

bigmick wrote:Well I'm back over for a couple of weeks in August Bam (brothers wedding). I can't stay any longer because of the business and also as I don't want to be away from the missus and kids for any longer than that. We said we'd give it three years when we first came, and we will but I must confess I'm finding it fairly tough to settle. I have good days and bad ones but although it's a beautiful place over here, it's probably the lack of like minded people (which I've met anyway) which grinds after a while. I've got a couple of lads I go for a beer with from time to time but it's different mate (as I guess it would be). Banter, p!ss taking and the like is on a kind of different level here and it's kind of like a santised version of a night on the p!ss it seems to me.

Missus is sweet as a nut as she's from here, similarly the kids are settled in as kids do. Ol' Micky though gets the homesick blues pretty bad sometimes if I'm honest, and time will tell if those blues for me are enough to uproot the whole family again :( Ah well feck it, I'm depressing meself here never mind you lot :D

Like I said when you go back (baring the banter which isnt a treally good reason uproot your family  :D  but who am I to tell you what to do) in August you may find you dont find the place so homely on return.


In saying that though, after being in Oz for the first two years, and then went back to visit. I must admit I did miss the place and was glad to be back drinking real beer and enjoying the long summer nights. But two years on, nah its definately not for me. Give yourself time fella, or move to Oz its hot over here and rthe beaches are fantastic.
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:52 am

Number 9 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Gordon Brown texture like sun
Lays me down with my mind she runs
Throughout the night
No need to fight
Never a frown with Gordon Brown.

How would you know sure your Irish! :D

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Postby Kharhaz » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:13 am

Not wanting to be too controversial here, but talking of strikes reminded me. Now before I go any further I'd just like to catergorically state England was a country for rich people when Margaret thatcher was prime minister. The poor got hit very badly due to recessions etc in the 80's I think.

But when she was in power at the time all the miners and dockers we're going on strike, I dont know if that was her fault they were going on strike. But anyway she introduced selling off council houses, for home owners. Again favouring the rich, IMO the less well off needed council houses, but she changed alot of that to given the richer the option to buy them.


Isnt it unfortunate now, in todays world, that those with money have so much influence. You look at people like Lewis Hamilton, brought up in this country,feeding of the state but when he makes his millions of he goes to switzerland to avoid paying taxes in this country. Hes not alone, many money makers, including top supermarkets have figured out a way to save money on taxes while still operating in this country. Leaving the government with who is here who WILL pay taxes. Did you know the unemployed pay taxes? yes we claim benefits but we still pay taxes, indeed, the giro we pick up is taxed. However it is getting to the point were the low earning or people unemployed are easy targets. You hear it all the time. People who are on benefits, if they dont find work they will be punished, indeed there are ministers who are out to get rid of the unemployed, one way or the other. If you are out of work for more than a period you will lose your home, if you have turned to drugs you will be punished. And all the while, people like Lewis Hamilton, who was paid for by taxpayers for his education and the like can clear off and take his money with him, give nothing back for what made him. But there will be people out there supporting him. "Hes British". People like Amy winehouse and pete docherty, why are they not imprisoned straight away like everyone else? they are paying better taxes, anything to deter them they will up and leave like everyone else. Prison wont happen. Not for either of them. But for the average joe earning nothing with the same problem as them, they could lose there house and everything they own.

The human rights law exists, but not for those below the acceptable level.
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Postby laza » Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:03 am

bigmick wrote:Well sh!thole or not, (and lets be honest the Uk is a bit of a sh!thole when it comes down to it) I must confess I miss it like feck and certainly wouldn't bet against spending a significant proportion of me remaining natural there. You can have as big a house as you like (and we've got a house over here we'd never be able to afford in England), the cleanest streets, the best weather, low crime and all that, but there's something about old blighty which you just can't get out of your system sometimes.

Maybe it's the banter, the boozers, the telly, the football, the politics, the culture, the diversity, the restaurants, the weather, the fact that Christmas falls in the middle of the period when the weathers sh!te and in so doing cheers everyone up a bit. Maybe it's the cricket, Lords, Wimbledon, the House of Commons, having a lucky 15 on a Saturday, or a football bet, going on the p!ss for a totally ill-advised all day sesh 'cos it's one of your mates 38th birthdays. Maybe it's dodgy kebabs, log fires, conversation with like minded people, population, the occasional forays into riding a bike or something equally daft before you go down the pub. Maybe it's holidays abroad, suntans, five quid flights, buses that don't turn up, passing a boring Saturday afternoon by watching England lose against Ireland in the six nations, maybe guessing which town people are from when you hear them speak.

It could be any of those things, a lot of em or none of em. Maybe it's just that it's home and it's what your used to. Whatever it is though that Rupert Brooke fella had it about right, as did the bloke who wrote that "and did those feet in ancient times" thing. All you feckers over there who think "I'd like to knock that smarmy know-all c... out" hold that thought, cos one day you might just get your chance   :;):

Well if its any consolation you sound just like my 82 year old Mum who came over to Oz in 1950s and is still misty eyed about England.........then again that may not be consolation.

There also some stat about English who come to Oz get homesick and return home. A surprisely high number of those then wish to return to Oz after a couple of years back in motherland.

Thats probably not helping either    :D
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Postby bigmick » Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:53 am

laza wrote:There also some stat about English who come to Oz get homesick and return home. A surprisely high number of those then wish to return to Oz after a couple of years back in motherland.

The old "ping-pong Pom" syndrome mate. Breaks your heart and your bank balance in equal measure.
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:59 am

Kharhaz wrote:
Not wanting to be too controversial here, but talking of strikes reminded me. Now before I go any further I'd just like to catergorically state England was a country for rich people when Margaret thatcher was prime minister. The poor got hit very badly due to recessions etc in the 80's I think.

But when she was in power at the time all the miners and dockers we're going on strike, I dont know if that was her fault they were going on strike. But anyway she introduced selling off council houses, for home owners. Again favouring the rich, IMO the less well off needed council houses, but she changed alot of that to given the richer the option to buy them.


Isnt it unfortunate now, in todays world, that those with money have so much influence. You look at people like Lewis Hamilton, brought up in this country,feeding of the state but when he makes his millions of he goes to switzerland to avoid paying taxes in this country. Hes not alone, many money makers, including top supermarkets have figured out a way to save money on taxes while still operating in this country. Leaving the government with who is here who WILL pay taxes. Did you know the unemployed pay taxes? yes we claim benefits but we still pay taxes, indeed, the giro we pick up is taxed. However it is getting to the point were the low earning or people unemployed are easy targets. You hear it all the time. People who are on benefits, if they dont find work they will be punished, indeed there are ministers who are out to get rid of the unemployed, one way or the other. If you are out of work for more than a period you will lose your home, if you have turned to drugs you will be punished. And all the while, people like Lewis Hamilton, who was paid for by taxpayers for his education and the like can clear off and take his money with him, give nothing back for what made him. But there will be people out there supporting him. "Hes British". People like Amy winehouse and pete docherty, why are they not imprisoned straight away like everyone else? they are paying better taxes, anything to deter them they will up and leave like everyone else. Prison wont happen. Not for either of them. But for the average joe earning nothing with the same problem as them, they could lose there house and everything they own.

The human rights law exists, but not for those below the acceptable level.

Good post.
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Postby Kharhaz » Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:01 am

bigmick wrote:
laza wrote:There also some stat about English who come to Oz get homesick and return home. A surprisely high number of those then wish to return to Oz after a couple of years back in motherland.

The old "ping-pong Pom" syndrome mate. Breaks your heart and your bank balance in equal measure.

The breaking of your heart when you see for yourself is worth any fee to get the hell out of here. Believe me, the fee to get out is minimal. But then only when you do see for yourself can you appreciate what is what. You wont stay here long.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:29 am

my sister, b in law and niece have just flown back to england last night after spending a couple of weeks here, they were telling me how much they dislike the UK now with the taxes, fuel costs, immigration etc. they told me there is a rise in bad feelings towards the ethnics as it seems the whites are now pushing back from being told what is and what is not acceptable in relation to race.

before and tosspots come in and accuse her of racism i can tell you she isn't racist, she is however educated and able to make decisions herself
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:17 pm

Good job i'm scouse and not english ,i agree with everything you say BM England is a sespit , . Liverpool on the other hand is gods little acre , an oasis at the side of the desert that is England if you will . It's utopia .it's shangrilar , it's heaven on earth .

Apart from Speke ,which is a sh1thole , but there you go ,can't have everthing mate.

Your best sticking to Mrs Jessop land ,mate.
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