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by **Thingy** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:13 pm

I support Rafa fully by the way. Im 3rd in the que

by **Rush Job** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:24 am

LFC2007 wrote:Rafa interview excerpt;

Q: With the way things are going would you ever be tempted to say 'Look I don't need this' and walk away?

A: At this moment I have two years on my contract. I am really pleased and happy here and want to stay. I have no intention of 'considering' my position at the end of the season.

Well in Rafa lad, his love for this club must be huge he`s not a man who would walk out on us in a time of crisis.
If only coco and GG would come out and back the manager and speak of a proper new deal they would steal the ground Hisk`s is trying to claim as his own, after all thats come out we need to know where they stand now it seems it was them after Klinsman.

by **heimdall** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:47 am

nobybob wrote:
destro wrote:
nobybob wrote:
peewee wrote:i think i will start a poll, who is more hated, hicks or peewee?

way to close to call for me

One winds people up to the point they threaten him and his family with violence, deliberately says things just to cause arguments and inflames situations that are already bad enough as it is, and NEVER backs down even though everyone else can see he is wrong....the other one is

an american

So you hate all Americans now do you, fecking idiots!! :veryangry

BTW Still waiting for Bad Bob to actually answer my question of whether he would rather end up 5th in the league and knocked out of chamipons league by Chelsea but with Hicks and Gillett selling up or getting 4th and number 6 with Hicks still in place. Everyone else has been able to answer this question, some even on your behalf, but what is your opinion Bad Bob???

by **112-1077774096** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:54 am

heimdall wrote:
nobybob wrote:
destro wrote:
nobybob wrote:
peewee wrote:i think i will start a poll, who is more hated, hicks or peewee?

way to close to call for me

One winds people up to the point they threaten him and his family with violence, deliberately says things just to cause arguments and inflames situations that are already bad enough as it is, and NEVER backs down even though everyone else can see he is wrong....the other one is

an american

So you hate all Americans now do you, fecking idiots!!

BTW Still waiting for Bad Bob to actually answer my question of whether he would rather end up 5th in the league and knocked out of chamipons league by Chelsea but with Hicks and Gillett selling up or getting 4th and number 6 with Hicks still in place. Everyone else has been able to answer this question, some even on your behalf, but what is your opinion Bad Bob???

good luck mate, i m still waiting for an answer to my question, i think he needs to see his mates opinions before he can give his

by **LFC2007** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:58 am

The comedy duo

by **112-1077774096** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:04 am

happy you rate us so highly

by **Rush Job** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:27 am

peewee wrote:
heimdall wrote:
nobybob wrote:
destro wrote:
nobybob wrote:
peewee wrote:i think i will start a poll, who is more hated, hicks or peewee?

way to close to call for me

One winds people up to the point they threaten him and his family with violence, deliberately says things just to cause arguments and inflames situations that are already bad enough as it is, and NEVER backs down even though everyone else can see he is wrong....the other one is

an american

So you hate all Americans now do you, fecking idiots!!

BTW Still waiting for Bad Bob to actually answer my question of whether he would rather end up 5th in the league and knocked out of chamipons league by Chelsea but with Hicks and Gillett selling up or getting 4th and number 6 with Hicks still in place. Everyone else has been able to answer this question, some even on your behalf, but what is your opinion Bad Bob???

good luck mate, i m still waiting for an answer to my question, i think he needs to see his mates opinions before he can give his

I`d take going out of the CL if it ment an end to this sh!te and a bit of stability, but thats just me.

by **Kharhaz** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:28 am

LFC2007 wrote:The comedy duo

Petty response.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:02 am

I think some people are dismissing peewee's point because it's peewee. From what I can gather (and I might be totally wrong) peewee isn't saying he's a fan of Hicks or particuarlly likes Hicks, his point is, we are a football club so the football side of things should be more important than any other aspect.

I can also see what the other side are saying that if Hicks stays then we might not be a football club for much longer, which probably holds a lot of truth.

I'd rather see us win the european cup than Hicks going because of a few reasons. One it brings me more joy seeing Liverpool on the back pages for the right reasons, two we are a football club and football should be first and thirdly with the money we'd win, it might speed Hicks' exit a lot quicker. I don't want Hicks at our club for to much longer, but he is there and looks like he will be for the forseable future. So do people not want us to win trophies to ensure Hicks goes? I don't.

by **112-1077774096** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:21 am

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:I think some people are dismissing peewee's point because it's peewee. From what I can gather (and I might be totally wrong) peewee isn't saying he's a fan of Hicks or particuarlly likes Hicks, his point is, we are a football club so the football side of things should be more important than any other aspect.

correct on all points mate

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:20 am

The football side can only come first when there is a degree of stability behind the scenes. If players don't know if the manager is going to be there next season (or even next week) their performances can drop and like most of us they will try to look after number one.We saw with the mancs when Ferguson was supposedly going and Citeh as soon as Keegan said he was leaving the problems this can cause. Berbatov's refusal to warm up when Martin Yol told him to is another example.

Then there is the problem of planning for the future, what manager is going to worry about the long term at a club when he doesn't know if he will be there tomorrow?

All this though pales into insignificance when set against the huge problems we have with the debt that is and will be set against the club. The football is no longer that important when there is no football club, or we have to sell all our best players like Leeds.

What top stars are going to want to come to a club in turmoil? What player doesn't feel uneasy at the thought that if they sign for Benitez he may soon be gone, and then maybe the new manager may have different ideas about style of play and the players he needs.

Its bad enough that the clowns have made our club a laughing stock by their constant bickering in the press, but we now hear that players are being bought on short term credit. Its no wonder H&G were panicking when it looked like we were going to take an early exit from the CL !

I would willingly sacrifice a CL FINAL if it meant long term stability was returned and these clowns were shown the door. Whats the point of having a great season and winning the double if your club is not going to be there next season or the players that gave you such a great season have to be sold.

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:30 am

heimdall wrote:So you hate all Americans now do you, fecking idiots!!

Yes, they are "fecking idiots". You are correct. :nod

Where you from Heimdall? Norway or some place like that? Not meaning to be funny, but do people in those places use the word "fecking"?

by **Scottbot** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:34 am

It's a Bulls..h..i..t question. Who gives a fu...c...k. It's hyperthetical nonsense.

Would I rather win the lottery and lose a leg or keep my leg and win fook all?

I'll take the money and keep me leg ta.

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:34 am

s@int wrote:The football side can only come first when there is a degree of stability behind the scenes. If players don't know if the manager is going to be there next season (or even next week) their performances can drop and like most of us they will try to look after number one.We saw with the mancs when Ferguson was supposedly going and Citeh as soon as Keegan said he was leaving the problems this can cause. Berbatov's refusal to warm up when Martin Yol told him to is another example.

Then there is the problem of planning for the future, what manager is going to worry about the long term at a club when he doesn't know if he will be there tomorrow?

All this though pales into insignificance when set against the huge problems we have with the debt that is and will be set against the club. The football is no longer that important when there is no football club, or we have to sell all our best players like Leeds.

What top stars are going to want to come to a club in turmoil? What player doesn't feel uneasy at the thought that if they sign for Benitez he may soon be gone, and then maybe the new manager may have different ideas about style of play and the players he needs.

Its bad enough that the clowns have made our club a laughing stock by their constant bickering in the press, but we now hear that players are being bought on short term credit. Its no wonder H&G were panicking when it looked like we were going to take an early exit from the CL !

I would willingly sacrifice a CL FINAL if it meant long term stability was returned and these clowns were shown the door. Whats the point of having a great season and winning the double if your club is not going to be there next season or the players that gave you such a great season have to be sold.

So you're saying all this bollox has had some impact on our play on the pitch this season?

by **Ciggy** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:36 am

YANKS GOING HOME - GILLETT CUTS A DEAL

Tom Hicks and George Gillett: Torn apart
Saturday April 19,2008
By Harry Harris

Liverpool’s warring American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett could both be out of the club by the summer.

Gillett has secretly agreed to sell his half stake in Liverpool to Dubai Investment Capital for a profit of £60million. And once that deal is done, it will trigger a plan to squeeze out Hicks, according to reliable City sources.

I understand the English section of the Anfield boardroom, chief executive Rick Parry and former chairman David Moores, will approve the new takeover strategy.

Hicks insists that Gillett cannot sell to anyone other than him, but the Daily Express has learnt that is not the whole story and instead he could almost certainly be following his one-time friend out of Anfield.

And a game-plan is already in place to squeeze out Tom Hicks, giving DIC total control of the Anfield club and so end the internal war that is currently tearing Liverpool apart. The American duo could both be gone by June.

The ink is not on the paper but it will be a major surprise if he doesn’t sell now.

Expect knee-jerk denials but the Express has been told by reliable contacts of the ‘deal’ that will soon kick in – and that the ‘English’ section of the Liverpool board, led by chief executive Rick Parry and former chairman David Moores, will approve the new takeover strategy.

My City source tells me: “George Gillett has been made a handsome offer from DIC which will yield him a substantial profit.

“There is a pre-emptive rights agreement in place – as Tom Hicks has been saying – that Gillett cannot sell to anyone other than him. But this is not strictly the case. The first-refusal option lasts 90 days and Gillett effectively set the wheels in motion at the end of February and the first-refusal rights expire at the end of May. Then we expect Gillett to sell his 50 per cent Liverpool stake to DIC for £60m and then Hicks has a big problem. DIC will raise the money for the new Anfield stadium and Hicks will be liable for a proportion of that debt, and if he cannot raise it, then there will be measures put in place to dilute his holding.

“Expect the board to call for a new share issue, and Hicks will need to put up substantial sums to maintain his 50 per cent share.

“The only alternative is for Hicks to somehow raise a huge amount of money to buy out Gillett, but there is no sign of it happening. And it won’t happen.

“We know of a dozen institutions Hicks has been talking to and none is prepared to help him raise any money in today’s credit climate.

Hicks is being hit hard at a time when the banks are just not handing out loans any more.”

Liverpool carry debts of £350m so Gillett carries £175m of that. And with DIC prepared to offer £60m for Gillett’s stake it values his deal at £235m and the club as a whole at £470m.

Hicks has called for Parry’s resignation but I understand that Parry will play an integral role in the new Liverpool set-up under DIC.

Hicks was furious with Parry, who attempted to stop loans taken out by the Americans being loaded on to the club’s debt.

Parry succeeded only for the pair to have the loans assigned to their company Kop Football Holdings – which is the parent company of the football club anyway. So the debt saddled to the club remains.

Liverpool fans have grown suspicious of overseas owners but DIC’s pledge to finance the new stadium will play a major part in winning over a sceptical public

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