Liverpool FC Forum

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:19 am

nobybob wrote:
peewee wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
peewee wrote:and as for team selections not being important, last time i looked we were a football club, you would do well to remember that

Who said they weren't important? Not me. What I'm saying here however is that your view that they are more important than a very public civil war between the owners is ridiculous. Is a manager that repeatedly selects Dirk Kuyt really a bigger concern than an owner that lies to supporters? You're living in cloud cuckoo land if you think it is.

What I can't fathom is how you can be so glib about the threat Hicks poses to the club. As you never fail to remind us, you're Scouse and you've been going the game since long before most on here (even if you haven't been in years...a little fact you seem to glide right over whenever you get in wind-up mode). So, tell me, how can a such a long-standing supporter of Liverpool Football Club place so much importance on the manager's team selection at a time when the owners are engaging in an unseemly and very public power struggle that jeopardizes both the good name of the club and the very nature of its operations--including its capacity to put a winning football team on the pitch? How can you be so dismissive of the concerns most people justifiably have about the owners and insist that Rafa's the real problem? It just boggles the mind that you, as a lifelong supporter, can't see the bigger picture here. Shameful.

well obviously you know f*ck all about the city and the club, its a football club bob, are you saying mid table every season with no trophies every season will be ok as long as we have a nice owner?

like i say bob, actually go to a game, see what its all about, and then try and tell me the football is not important. (and yes i have been the past 5 years, i do visit the UK you know, how sad for you, even since i left i have been more than you)

what would you rather have at the end of this season, hicks still here and we win the champions league, or hicks gone and we win nothing? i suspect you will answer the first one so don't tell me the ownership is more important than the football.

so when you ask how a long standing supporter can place so much importance on team selection, i will tell you its because we are football club first and foremost. tell you what bob, why don't we just quit playing until its all sorted out? oh i know why, its because we are a football club

Certainly the most foolish poster on here with absolutely no nouse. You seem unable to grasp simple concepts such as , the football will never be right as long as the pr!icks at the top are raping the club of all they can. You go on about team selection and tactics CAN YOU NOT SEE THE BIG PICTURE HERE???

If we were all on a plane together and the pilot dropped dead, and no one else could fly you would be the one complaining about the in flight movie!!

so we have all the boardroom troubles yet we are in the CL semi final.

what planet are you on? surely if it was affecting the playing we would not be in the semi

duh

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:28 am

peewee wrote:
god_bless_john_houlding wrote:
peewee wrote:as for being a true fan, dont make me laugh, this coming from a guy who has never been a game

peewee, on the whole I can see where you're coming from, but this is a pathetic statement. Going to match doesn't determine you a true fan or not. I go the match every week, you no longer do, does that make me a bigger fan? No, of course it doesn't. So many of the fans at the ground couldn't even tell you who Liverpool's last game was against because they have no love for the club, does that make them true fans? No, of course it doesn't.

I'm not looking for a arguement mate, just letting you know that this statement is total bollox. It's bollox when I've used it myself in the past. A match goer, doesn't make you a true fan.

A true fan is somebody who:
1)doesn't jump ship when things are bad
2)feels joy when we win and hurt we lose
3)loves the club, and looks out for how we get on, whether it be at the match, radio, video or whatever.
4)craves success upon the club. (that's not the same as gloryhunting by the way)
5)would happily share a drink with any other Liverpool fan.

hey i am not the one who made the "true fan" comment mate, aim that at bob who seems to enjoy trying to ridicule my support, i was regular from 1973 until 2002 and here is a guy who has never been a game questioning my support because i have a different opinion from him.

now in my opinion going the game does make you a different level of fan than someone who has never been, just for the sheer experience of seeing things live rather than through a screen, he has never known the real passion at a game and i feel he never will.

now bob brought it up, he can take the stick that goes with making such a ridiculous comment as "true fan" when he obviously has knowledge of football gleaned from other posters on here and from the press, rather than his own opinion formed actually watching games and playing the game.

my opinion is different to his, but never question my support, its my true support that wants the club to do better and ifs that is at the expense of any individual, including rafa, then so be it

fair enough mate, but as a genuine fan of Liverpool Football Club, which I assume me, you AND bob are, we shouldn't question the loyalty of any fan. I've done it in the past and know I was wrong to do so. We shouldn't be questioning each other's loyalty because we differ in opinion.

I'm not aiming this at you alone by the way mate. It's aimed at everybody on here.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:35 am

the boardroom troubles, make this season no more special than any other. Fans were saying the reason we couldn't beat Birmingham and Wigan is because of the boardroom troubles, but now it's Benitez doing fantastically well other difficult circumstances. Well those circumstances were just as difficult back earlier in the season, so it wasn't down to the yanks. They have no bearing on the pitch, as our captain has said recently "we just try and focus on the matters on the pitch" similar words have been said by Benitez. So obviously the yanks aren't to blame for a pathetic domestic campaign. IMO anyway.

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:43 am

i have said all along the off field problems have no affect on team selection and performance, however some chose to use it as an excuse for poor performances

by **Kharhaz** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:04 am

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:the boardroom troubles, make this season no more special than any other. Fans were saying the reason we couldn't beat Birmingham and Wigan is because of the boardroom troubles, but now it's Benitez doing fantastically well other difficult circumstances. Well those circumstances were just as difficult back earlier in the season, so it wasn't down to the yanks. They have no bearing on the pitch, as our captain has said recently "we just try and focus on the matters on the pitch" similar words have been said by Benitez. So obviously the yanks aren't to blame for a pathetic domestic campaign. IMO anyway.

No, only the points you choose to read, many people, like me agree it is because of the players not pulling there weight, including gerrard. Just look at the topics raised, Hyypia being given a new contract, gerrards captaincy, mascha, alonso. Check throughout the forum you will see it is not down to the boardroom for our failings this season. Many people have many reasons, it just seems convenient for arguments sake to blame the boardroom of the club.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:32 am

Kharhaz wrote:
god_bless_john_houlding wrote:the boardroom troubles, make this season no more special than any other. Fans were saying the reason we couldn't beat Birmingham and Wigan is because of the boardroom troubles, but now it's Benitez doing fantastically well other difficult circumstances. Well those circumstances were just as difficult back earlier in the season, so it wasn't down to the yanks. They have no bearing on the pitch, as our captain has said recently "we just try and focus on the matters on the pitch" similar words have been said by Benitez. So obviously the yanks aren't to blame for a pathetic domestic campaign. IMO anyway.

No, only the points you choose to read, many people, like me agree it is because of the players not pulling there weight, including gerrard. Just look at the topics raised, Hyypia being given a new contract, gerrards captaincy, mascha, alonso. Check throughout the forum you will see it is not down to the boardroom for our failings this season. Many people have many reasons, it just seems convenient for arguments sake to blame the boardroom of the club.

look at the topics raised? they probably don't add up all together to the amount that's in the takeover topic. this topic alone now has 14 pages, I think Gerrard's captaincy that is a few years old, has about 8 or 9. People always blame the off the field antics, not so much now because we're winning so the problems seem to of disappeared from the players, but during our bad spell of novemeber to mid feburary mainly people criticised the yanks, mainly those in favour of Benitez. But like I said because we're winning now, the yanks are no longer to blame for the on goings on the pitch but if we lose to fulham this weekend no doubt it'll all be because of this interview.

I'm not saying people blamed the yanks solely, but that was one of the biggest complaints and as soon as anybody questioned Benitez the reply was "how can you expect him to work under such circumstances" well I expected him to work like he is now.

by **Bad Bob** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:55 am

peewee wrote:hey i am not the one who made the "true fan" comment mate, aim that at bob who seems to enjoy trying to ridicule my support, i was regular from 1973 until 2002 and here is a guy who has never been a game questioning my support because i have a different opinion from him.

now in my opinion going the game does make you a different level of fan than someone who has never been, just for the sheer experience of seeing things live rather than through a screen, he has never known the real passion at a game and i feel he never will.

now bob brought it up, he can take the stick that goes with making such a ridiculous comment as "true fan" when he obviously has knowledge of football gleaned from other posters on here and from the press, rather than his own opinion formed actually watching games and playing the game.

my opinion is different to his, but never question my support, its my true support that wants the club to do better and ifs that is at the expense of any individual, including rafa, then so be it

You're absolutely right, Peewee, I can take it. In fact, you've got me dead to rights...I've never seen the lads play live. Plan to do so at the first opportunity, you can be sure, but it hasn't happened yet--no arguments there. So, yes, I do learn a lot about the club from people on here--people that go to the game and have done for years. Scousers, Wools, OOTers and more...people that know the traditions, the ins and outs and ups and downs of the Liverpool way and who are decent enough to share their insights with the rest of us.

So, I've been reading with great interest what our community of long-standing supporters think about how things are unfolding under our current owners. I've seen the dismay, the frustration, the fear, the rage that come pouring out every time Hicks, especially, makes another empty promise or bald-faced lie; every time he spouts off to the press rather than keeping schtum; every time he tries to curry favour or pass the buck. Page after page in threads like this one I've encountered die-hard, life-long, match-going supporters cursing Hicks's name and swearing that priority one is to get this cowboy out of the Director's Box.

And then I read your comments. I read your mealy-mouthed efforts to defend Hicks. I read your pathetic attempts to suggest that Rafa and his team selection are the bigger problem. I read your sarcastic digs at those who want Hicks out (it's all there in the first couple pages of this thread). And, you know what? It sickens me. You of all people--a match-going Scouser from way back--should know how much damage this buffoon is doing to your club and yet you defend the man and mock those who stand against him. Are you a true supporter? Really? You keep shouting it from the rooftops whilst trying to dismiss my support but the proof's in the pudding. And, I'm afraid you've been found sadly wanting. Fact is, no true supporter gets more worked up about Dirk Kuyt's performances or Rafa's team selections than he does about Tom Hicks's latest press release. Enough said, really.

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:14 am

Bad Bob wrote:
peewee wrote:hey i am not the one who made the "true fan" comment mate, aim that at bob who seems to enjoy trying to ridicule my support, i was regular from 1973 until 2002 and here is a guy who has never been a game questioning my support because i have a different opinion from him.

now in my opinion going the game does make you a different level of fan than someone who has never been, just for the sheer experience of seeing things live rather than through a screen, he has never known the real passion at a game and i feel he never will.

now bob brought it up, he can take the stick that goes with making such a ridiculous comment as "true fan" when he obviously has knowledge of football gleaned from other posters on here and from the press, rather than his own opinion formed actually watching games and playing the game.

my opinion is different to his, but never question my support, its my true support that wants the club to do better and ifs that is at the expense of any individual, including rafa, then so be it

You're absolutely right, Peewee, I can take it. In fact, you've got me dead to rights...I've never seen the lads play live. Plan to do so at the first opportunity, you can be sure, but it hasn't happened yet--no arguments there. So, yes, I do learn a lot about the club from people on here--people that go to the game and have done for years. Scousers, Wools, OOTers and more...people that know the traditions, the ins and outs and ups and downs of the Liverpool way and who are decent enough to share their insights with the rest of us.

So, I've been reading with great interest what our community of long-standing supporters think about how things are unfolding under our current owners. I've seen the dismay, the frustration, the fear, the rage that come pouring out every time Hicks, especially, makes another empty promise or bald-faced lie; every time he spouts off to the press rather than keeping schtum; every time he tries to curry favour or pass the buck. Page after page in threads like this one I've encountered die-hard, life-long, match-going supporters cursing Hicks's name and swearing that priority one is to get this cowboy out of the Director's Box.

And then I read your comments. I read your mealy-mouthed efforts to defend Hicks. I read your pathetic attempts to suggest that Rafa and his team selection are the bigger problem. I read your sarcastic digs at those who want Hicks out (it's all there in the first couple pages of this thread). And, you know what? It sickens me. You of all people--a match-going Scouser from way back--should know how much damage this buffoon is doing to your club and yet you defend the man and mock those who stand against him. Are you a true supporter? Really? You keep shouting it from the rooftops whilst trying to dismiss my support but the proof's in the pudding. And, I'm afraid you've been found sadly wanting. Fact is, no true supporter gets more worked up about Dirk Kuyt's performances or Rafa's team selections than he does about Tom Hicks's latest press release. Enough said, really.

bob you really are clueless.

again i will ask you the question about which is more important to you, hicks out or the CL. iof you say its more important to get hicks out than win the CL then you know nothing about football or this club, if you say the CL is more important (which it is) then you will find yourself agreeing with me.

however much you want to try and deflect this the fact is you backed yourself into a corner and will now not answer the question.

we are a football club, what happens on the pitch is the most important thing for this football club, without what happens on the pitch we are no longer a football club and will cease to exist, its simple really.

question my support

been there and done it bob and will do it again before you even get anywhere near the ground. your problem is that you follow the most vocal on here to fit in with the crowd, yet you think i believe the opposite just to cause ructions, far from it bob, i never said i agree with hicks, i just feel the guy should be given a chance, after all in his first full season we are in the CL semis and have the pleasure of watching the best finisher we have seen since fowler, we have signed mash, we have money available this summer, we can get rid of parry (at last) yet you all seem to think the guy is an idiot (idiots do not become billionaires).

once again i will say it as some of you seem unable to read my posts without looking for something you can throw back to try and question my level of support, hicks needs to be a given a chance, there is no guarantee a new owner would be any better, is that clear enough now?

the fact is people got on his back when the team were struggling, they found a scapegoat in hicks rather than admit where the real problem was at the time, sorry bob but you got swept away with this and now have trouble backpedaling from it.

give the guy a chance and lets see what happens, do you really thing he gives two f*ck about what some geography teacher from canada thinks who has never even been the game.

you talk about support, he is the owner, why not support him?

by **Scottbot** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:38 am

I just wish they would all shut up. They're all as bad as eachother. It would be nice to put all this boll.ox on the back-burner and deal with it in the off-season. It's unbelievable really, Hick gets the majority of the bad press but Gillette is just as bad and Parry is doing his level best to join them. Ok, Hicks can't resist shooting his mouth off, that's all he's done since he arrived at the club, but why the need from Gillette and Parry to counter it with their own comments in the press. Adding more fuel to fu.c..k.ing fire. Just shut the fu..c...k up all of you and let the MANAGER, the PLAYERS and the fu...c..k.ing FOOTBALL do the talking.

by **Scottbot** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:59 am

peewee wrote:the fact is people got on his back when the team were struggling, they found a scapegoat in hicks rather than admit where the real problem was at the time, sorry bob but you got swept away with this and now have trouble backpedaling from it.

you talk about support, he is the owner, why not support him?

There's a bit of truth in that mate and the fact we are playing so well the past couple of months despite the current back-drop of B.S and embarrassment from the owners/senior management seems to back up the assessment that the off-field stuff has little bearing on performances on the pitch.

But the truth is (in my opinion) a good few fans would have turned on Benitez had they not been so aghast at the very public undermining (the Klinsman stuff, general comments in the press from Hicks) of the manager. I certainly wasn't (and still aren't) happy about the way the season (in terms of the league) was going but didn't feel the need to kick the manager when he had already been floored by our so-called owners, i'm sure many others felt the same (although not you). Let's not pretend Hicks was just some convenient scapegoat, a boogeyman for everyone to pin the blame on. The guy is a fu..c..k..in idiot, an embarrassment to the club, i'm embarrassed, aren't you? and i'll assume your last comment about supporting him was a joke? I'd be surprised if the stuff going on a couple of months ago did not affect the players in some way. Their Gaffer (who brought most of them to the club) is undermined in public, the owners sniffing around for another manager, all the press coverage turning the club into an even bigger goldfish bowl than usual. The stuff going on at the moment is different as far as I can see. It's not about the manager or his short-term future, I believe it is less distracting to the players. It's about two morons playing a political game of bluff, counter-bluff and brinkmanship without a single care in the world for you, me or any other member of this great club's support.

by **laza** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:35 am

Scottbot wrote:I just wish they would all shut up. They're all as bad as eachother. It would be nice to put all this boll.ox on the back-burner and deal with it in the off-season. It's unbelievable really, Hick gets the majority of the bad press but Gillette is just as bad and Parry is doing his level best to join them. Ok, Hicks can't resist shooting his mouth off, that's all he's done since he arrived at the club, but why the need from Gillette and Parry to counter it with their own comments in the press. Adding more fuel to fu.c..k.ing fire. Just shut the fu..c...k up all of you and let the MANAGER, the PLAYERS and the fu...c..k.ing FOOTBALL do the talking.

Im with Scott

And the fact these egoistic fu..ckwits seem to wait until around the time of the big games to play out this :censored:

beggars belief. I guess the old adage of money cant buy you class shows through again

by **nobybob** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:23 am

peewee

again i will ask you the question about which is more important to you, hicks out or the CL. iof you say its more important to get hicks out than win the CL then you know nothing about football or this club, if you say the CL is more important (which it is) then you will find yourself agreeing with me.

i will tell you which is the most important to me HICKS OUT (which it is ) no hesitation at all if we lose the cl this club will still be LFC the club i love with all the philosophies and traditions and ways of doing things it aways has had. But if hicks stays all that will go out the window he will take all the money out of the club continue to make us a laughing stock in front of the whole world,. Players will want to leave , and new players will not want to come here. The very existence of the club is at stake here if you cant see that then YOU know nothing about football or this club!

peewee

question my support been there and done it bob and will do it again before you even get anywhere near the ground. your problem is that you follow the most vocal on here to fit in with the crowd, yet you think i believe the opposite just to cause ructions, far from it bob, i never said i agree with hicks, i just feel the guy should be given a chance, after all in his first full season we are in the CL semis and have the pleasure of watching the best finisher we have seen since fowler, we have signed mash, we have money available this summer, we can get rid of parry (at last) yet you all seem to think the guy is an idiot (idiots do not become billionaires).

As a match going scouser for the 44 years of my life i must say that BOB shows so much more insight and passion than you and your pathetic attempts to play devils advocate to the huge majority of opinion of fans on here, disagreeing, ignoring the obvious, anything to try to be controversial and get a bit of attention. So you must think that RAFA must be given a chance seeing as " after all we are in the CL semis and have the pleasure of watching the best finisher we have seen since fowler, we have signed mash, " all down to rafa. But you seem to think this guy is and idiot (idiots dont win the C.L) and get to 3 semis in 4 years.

peewee

once again i will say it as some of you seem unable to read my posts without looking for something you can throw back to try and question my level of support, hicks needs to be a given a chance, there is no guarantee a new owner would be any better, is that clear enough now?

So rafa must be given a chance then as there is no guarantee a new manager would be any better is that clear enough now?

give the guy a chance and lets see what happens, do you really thing he gives two f*ck about what some geography teacher from canada thinks who has never even been the game.

you talk about support, he is the owner, why not support him?

give rafa a chance and lets see what happens, do you really think he gives two f*ck about whatsome ex copper from malasia thinks who hasnt been to a game since 2002

you talk about support, he is the manager, why not support him?

duh

by **Espionage** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:29 am

Reading these threads is just so depressing...

I hope that once this season ends we can finally get all this :censored:

sorted.

by **Ciggy** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:30 am

Fernando Torres future under threat as banks keep watchful eye on Liverpool

Oliver Kay

Liverpool must repay £31.5 million to banking institutions in little more than a year or risk having to sell Fernando Torres and Ryan Babel.

The Times has learnt that Liverpool borrowed the money to sign Torres, the Spain forward who has scored 30 goals this season and has already become a firm favourite on the Kop, from Atlético Madrid last summer. The club then refinanced that debt on January 25, at the same time as they secured a £350 million refinancing package.

Liverpool entered into an 18-month loan agreement with interest of 9 per cent — £2.8 million a year — with a letter of credit to pay back the £31.5 million at the end of the period.

Should Liverpool be unable to pay back or refinance the loan, banks could force the sale of Torres and Babel, who was also included in the smaller refinancing package.

It is unusual for Barclays Premier League clubs to buy players in this way. Deals are normally funded using television income. Liverpool have to pay £30 million a year in interest payments on the £350 million loan, the terms of which end in July 2009. There was no official comment from the club last night.

The revelations came on a day when the turmoil at Anfield reached a nadir after Tom Hicks attempted to strengthen his grip on the club during an interview in which he demonised his enemies inside and outside Anfield. However, the Liverpool co-owner has only six weeks to raise the funds he needs if he is to achieve his goal of buying the club outright.

Having continued his assault on Rick Parry by calling his tenure as chief executive “a disaster”, Hicks admitted that his joint-ownership venture with George Gillett Jr had proved unworkable, but he is looking for the funds that would help him to buy Gillett’s 50 per cent stake and to “fix the entire financial structure of the club” while overseeing the construction of a new 70,000-capacity stadium in Stanley Park.

Gillett responded last night with a strongly worded statement in which he accused his co-owner of destabilising the club. “I am saddened at this latest outburst from Tom Hicks,” he said. “If Tom wanted a serious discussion on the issues to help the club move forward, he should bring his views to the board.

“Here we are, a few days away from a vital Champions League semi-final match and Tom has once again created turmoil with his public comments. Tom should stop. He knows that Rick Parry has my support and that airing his comments in this way will not change my position.

“Tom needs to understand that I will not sell my shares to him.”

Hicks was typically bullish about his prospects of raising the money — or, perhaps more realistically, finding the financial backing — but while he continues to explore his options with Merrill Lynch, his latest financial adviser, the clock is ticking.

Hicks has denied rumours in the City that he is under pressure to refinance his Hicks Sports Group, which holds his stakes in various sports franchises in the United States, but a deadline is looming to buy Gillett’s stake, which is the subject of a rival bid from Dubai International Capital (DIC), the private-equity investment arm of the Dubai Government.

Under the terms of their takeover 14 months ago, Hicks has pre-emption rights on Gillett’s stake in Liverpool and vice versa. That option is understood to expire 90 days after he was informed of DIC’s £200 million offer to Gillett, which was made on February 27. That period would expire on May 27, six days after the Champions League final in Moscow.

Hicks, though, maintains that he will be in charge of Liverpool for the long term, which would be bad news for Parry. “What has happened under Rick has been a disaster,” Hicks told Sky Sports News. “We have fallen so far behind the other clubs. We have still got the top brand in the world of football, but that’s no good if you don’t know how to commercialise it. Rick needs to resign. You have to be able to work with the manager and Rick has proved he can’t do that.”

Parry, who responded with a rigorous defence of his record, will not resign and is under no pressure to do so, given that only two of the club’s six directors want him to go.

Hicks said that, if he succeeds in buying Liverpool outright, he will offer Benítez a one-year extension to his contract, which expires in 2010, but, despite his newfound alliance with the manager, he remains unpopular with supporters.

by **Ciggy** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:36 am

Pick Up Your Balls And Go Home

This is Angst-field

It’s time to praise Liverpool. Not the club, but the manager and the players.

It’s unthinkable that any other team under the circumstances could’ve got their way to a Champions League semi with the sort of shenanigans that’s going on off the pitch.

True, it’s down to two players mostly, but that doesn’t make it any less of an achievement.

At a time when fans and players were marking the anniversary of the Hillsborough tragedy, Tom Hicks was busy sharpening his sword and preparing to dig it in to the ribs of anyone within stabbing distance.

This bloke says Rick Parry’s time as chief executive has been a disaster. Well, maybe, it hasn’t been too clever, but the biggest mistake he made was selling the club to America’s version of Cain and Abel.

Hicks is keen to put the skids under Parry – the Klinsmann meeting was set up by Rick apparently, and although he thought it was out of order, Hicks was there too, with his son Tom.

That tells you all you need to know doesn’t it? Tom Hicks has called his son Tom. Why do Yanks do that? All them American golfers called summat-summat the third. Like you’re not so much a person, just a sequel.

Hicks says if he bought Gillett out he’d put Rafa on a one-year extension straight away so he was around when the stadium was finally finished. One whole year, Tom? Taking your employment tips from the RFU, are you?

"Well done, Mr Ashton, would you like to keep your job for a whole year after getting a bunch of concrete-filled pillowcases to the World Cup Final?

"Good! That’ll give us plenty of time to undermine you by talking to other people behind your back. And then when we’ve done that we’ll sack you and offer you a rank alternative." That’s top management, isn’t it?

Hicks says Parry’s relationship with Rafa is fragile. Right. I suppose, though, if they went out for dinner, they might be able to string together a conversation, unlike, say, you and George.

You can see it now. "Could you ask Mr Hicks to pass me the salt?" "Could you tell Mr Gillett that the salt is in easy reach" etc, etc.

Do the two of them really think the public, and especially the Liverpool fans, are really going to believe anything they say when it’s all so obviously about two overgrown and unfortunately wealthy schoolboys having a playground spat?

It couldn’t be worse if Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie were the majority shareholders. I can’t imagine Parry’s job at the moment is anything other than that of an exhausted parent.

DIC has been looming in the background dangling the keys to Fort Knox in the faces of Parry, but the hapless pair aren’t going to put up with that. Hicks will never sell.

Gillett will sell to DIC maybe, but there’s a gentlemen’s agreement about one of them selling up independently of the other. Mind that’s a gentlemen’s agreement so it doesn’t apply to Gillett and Hicks.

In the meantime who decides what cash Rafa’s going to get to strengthen the squad (that is if he really wants a better than fourth place finish in any given year)?

Rafa really needs to offload a few n'all – Voronin, Pennant, Arbeloa, and Hyppia are looking a bit like a Grand National chaser coming into the home straight for the last time.

I mean it’s a joke. There’s a lorra lorra people out there who think the Beeb goes on a bit too much about Liverpool. But the board are a disgrace right now – and this is the club that set the benchmark for keeping everything in-house and out of the papers.

Hicks seems so bent on washing his dirty linen in public he should move out of football and into launderettes.

The idea that Liverpool might win the Champs League and the six board members will be jumping up and down in delight is a bit bloody sickening.

Not quite sure how any of them have helped – save for the cash for Torres, which any other bidder would have provided anyway.

At this rate they’ll be moving into a soulless shell of a stadium, with no Kop-like aura, and there’ll be two executive boxes at either end of the main stand to stop the stropsters from throwing peanuts at each other.

The ground’ll be called the Hicks-Gillett stadium on one side and the Gillett-Hicks Stadium on the other. And they’ll never get away from the ground very quick cos they’ll be letting each others’ tyres down and keying each others paintwork.

It’s a total joke. I was surprised that the Glazers weren’t carried out of Old Trafford on tumbrils and tipped into the Manchester Ship Canal – but what they’ve done well is they’ve kept their heads down.

Cos they know nowt about footy. And the club’s done fine, of course. But even Liverpool’s success can’t stop these prissy pillocks arguing the toss about just about everything.

I have spent half my life watching and whining at Liverpool FC cos for years you just couldn’t stop them winning anything unless you were a genius like Cloughie.

I suppose now I should be laughing, but it just makes me bleeding angry - and by the way, it’s not cos they’re American.
It’s cos they’re pathetic. Pick up your balls and go home and let someone else have a go.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A34747211

Great piece but I dont agree with the Hyypia & Arbeloa part.

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Hicks on sky sports. - Claims he is buying the club outright!

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