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s@int wrote:Hicks quotes

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League and there were communications issues between Rafa and ourselves over the January window, George and I met Jurgen Klinsmann to learn as much as we could about English and European football,' he said.

'He is a very impressive man. We attempted to negotiate an option with him as an insurance policy, to have him become our manager in the event of Rafa leaving for Real Madrid or any other of the clubs rumoured in the UK press, or in case our communication problems spiralled out of control, for some reason. We never reached an agreement on an option, and we are pleased for him that he has an opportunity to return to Germany and coach a great club team.

'After George and I had a long and productive meeting with Rafa, following the United match, we put all our issues behind us and received a commitment from Rafa that he wanted to stay. Rafa has the support of both of us, and our communication has greatly improved.'



BTW I agree wholeheartedly with Ciggy. Hicks should f.off

s@int wrote:'He is a very impressive man. We attempted to negotiate an option with him as an insurance policy, to have him become our manager in the event of Rafa leaving for Real Madrid or any other of the clubs rumoured in the UK press, or in case our communication problems spiralled out of control, for some reason. We never reached an agreement on an option, and we are pleased for him that he has an opportunity to return to Germany and coach a great club team.

'After George and I had a long and productive meeting with Rafa, following the United match, we put all our issues behind us and received a commitment from Rafa that he wanted to stay. Rafa has the support of both of us, and our communication has greatly improved.'

peewee wrote:

Leonmc0708 wrote:

peewee wrote:

Leonmc0708 wrote:

peewee wrote:

Leonmc0708 wrote:

peewee wrote:

Leonmc0708 wrote:

peewee wrote:as for washing dirty linen in public, rafa started that one mate with his 'i am focusing on my team" interview which led hicks to come out and discuss what the argument was about.

Rafa said that after finding out they had spoken to Klinnsman.

if that is true then rafa should have dealt with that internally. and again i fail to see what they did wrong there, they spoke to a manager in the belief that rafa was looking to leave

Do you really beleive that or does it fit with your Hicks bias ?

IF they thought Rafa was looking to leave why have none of them mentioned it - ever ?

and if they did mention it you would have accused them of washing their dirty linen in public.

and lets clear this up, I have no affinity with hicks, i do however feel he is blamed for many things he shouldnt be and was blamed by many to distract from the garbage we were watching on the pitch. my opinion. lets see how he works on his own

so you admit no one has confirmed this and you made it up ?

so if no one has confirmed or denied it why do you seem so confident that your belief is correct?

Stop wriggling and answer the question.

Do you admit that your statement that:

they spoke to a manager in the belief that rafa was looking to leave

was totaly made up by you to support your anti Rafa bias ?

prove to me this is wrong, not wriggling, this is a forum and as such is full of conjecture. are you suggesting they just spoke to jurgen for the sake of it?

we can use use mirrors and smokescreens leon but trying to back me into a corner to make me look foolish is futile, i have told you my belief and its not aimed and fooling people.

now lets look at your comment about rafa. you claim rafa behaved the way he did in an interview because he found out about klinsman, now correct me if i am wrong but that happened after he was told to concentrate on the players he has when he was asking for money to buy mash, hence his comment 'I am concentrating on my team'. it was only later the klinsman story came out when hicks revealed it. now based on the current situation rafa has only just found out who was in that meeting but you are claiming he knew about the meeting earlier.

now are you confused about time scales or are you using this to fuel your anti hicks bias?

wanna keep going round in circles leon to justify your unwarranted outburst on the previous page or do you want to also read what other posters are writing in this discussion?

peewee wrote:

s@int wrote:'He is a very impressive man. We attempted to negotiate an option with him as an insurance policy, to have him become our manager in the event of Rafa leaving for Real Madrid or any other of the clubs rumoured in the UK press, or in case our communication problems spiralled out of control, for some reason. We never reached an agreement on an option, and we are pleased for him that he has an opportunity to return to Germany and coach a great club team.

'After George and I had a long and productive meeting with Rafa, following the United match, we put all our issues behind us and received a commitment from Rafa that he wanted to stay. Rafa has the support of both of us, and our communication has greatly improved.'

well straight from the horses mouth, they spoke to klinsman in case rafa was to leave, there was a belief that rafa may leave

Leonmc0708 wrote:

s@int wrote:Hicks quotes

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League and there were communications issues between Rafa and ourselves over the January window, George and I met Jurgen Klinsmann to learn as much as we could about English and European football,' he said.

'He is a very impressive man. We attempted to negotiate an option with him as an insurance policy, to have him become our manager in the event of Rafa leaving for Real Madrid or any other of the clubs rumoured in the UK press, or in case our communication problems spiralled out of control, for some reason. We never reached an agreement on an option, and we are pleased for him that he has an opportunity to return to Germany and coach a great club team.

'After George and I had a long and productive meeting with Rafa, following the United match, we put all our issues behind us and received a commitment from Rafa that he wanted to stay. Rafa has the support of both of us, and our communication has greatly improved.'



BTW I agree wholeheartedly with Ciggy. Hicks should f.off

The bold bit is all about covering your tracks that though, not pointing it out as the reason for it.

Its all al ie, the first bit he talks about ( I have highlighted below) is also not the reason. As we where top of the league when the talks happened.

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League

Leonmc0708 wrote:

s@int wrote:Hicks quotes

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League and there were communications issues between Rafa and ourselves over the January window, George and I met Jurgen Klinsmann to learn as much as we could about English and European football,' he said.

'He is a very impressive man. We attempted to negotiate an option with him as an insurance policy, to have him become our manager in the event of Rafa leaving for Real Madrid or any other of the clubs rumoured in the UK press, or in case our communication problems spiralled out of control, for some reason. We never reached an agreement on an option, and we are pleased for him that he has an opportunity to return to Germany and coach a great club team.

'After George and I had a long and productive meeting with Rafa, following the United match, we put all our issues behind us and received a commitment from Rafa that he wanted to stay. Rafa has the support of both of us, and our communication has greatly improved.'



BTW I agree wholeheartedly with Ciggy. Hicks should f.off

The bold bit is all about covering your tracks that though, not pointing it out as the reason for it.

Its all al ie, the first bit he talks about ( I have highlighted below) is also not the reason. As we where top of the league when the talks happened.

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League

NANNY RED wrote:Well im off to work to make some money thats gonna pay for my trip to Moscow that Raffa has got us to, thus making the club how many millions. Not bad for a s.hit manager

oh we dont even need to play the semi now   

peewee wrote:

Leonmc0708 wrote:

s@int wrote:Hicks quotes

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League and there were communications issues between Rafa and ourselves over the January window, George and I met Jurgen Klinsmann to learn as much as we could about English and European football,' he said.

'He is a very impressive man. We attempted to negotiate an option with him as an insurance policy, to have him become our manager in the event of Rafa leaving for Real Madrid or any other of the clubs rumoured in the UK press, or in case our communication problems spiralled out of control, for some reason. We never reached an agreement on an option, and we are pleased for him that he has an opportunity to return to Germany and coach a great club team.

'After George and I had a long and productive meeting with Rafa, following the United match, we put all our issues behind us and received a commitment from Rafa that he wanted to stay. Rafa has the support of both of us, and our communication has greatly improved.'



BTW I agree wholeheartedly with Ciggy. Hicks should f.off

The bold bit is all about covering your tracks that though, not pointing it out as the reason for it.

Its all al ie, the first bit he talks about ( I have highlighted below) is also not the reason. As we where top of the league when the talks happened.

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League

and you know this for a fact?

so when someone else points out a comment you make excuses for it, yet you choose to highlight comments and they are suddenly facts.

now the nitty gritty, it wasnt at the same time, the klinsman story was about a week later, it broke then, or maybe you knew before them and there is something you are not telling us.

so lets call this quits, you have your belief and i have mine, we are both showing things and it seems neither of us can say 100% its fact, although you seem to this your conjecture is fact and my conjecture is rumour

s@int wrote:

Leonmc0708 wrote:

s@int wrote:Hicks quotes

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League and there were communications issues between Rafa and ourselves over the January window, George and I met Jurgen Klinsmann to learn as much as we could about English and European football,' he said.

'He is a very impressive man. We attempted to negotiate an option with him as an insurance policy, to have him become our manager in the event of Rafa leaving for Real Madrid or any other of the clubs rumoured in the UK press, or in case our communication problems spiralled out of control, for some reason. We never reached an agreement on an option, and we are pleased for him that he has an opportunity to return to Germany and coach a great club team.

'After George and I had a long and productive meeting with Rafa, following the United match, we put all our issues behind us and received a commitment from Rafa that he wanted to stay. Rafa has the support of both of us, and our communication has greatly improved.'



BTW I agree wholeheartedly with Ciggy. Hicks should f.off

The bold bit is all about covering your tracks that though, not pointing it out as the reason for it.

Its all al ie, the first bit he talks about ( I have highlighted below) is also not the reason. As we where top of the league when the talks happened.

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League

I wouldn't believe a word Hicks said mate, I was just pointing out where peewee probably got the idea from.

I believe the reason they were looking to get rid of Rafa was because he highlighted their money problems by repeatedly raising the question of transfers (Mascherano), and because we looked likely to exit from the CL.

Leonmc0708 wrote:

peewee wrote:

Leonmc0708 wrote:

s@int wrote:Hicks quotes

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League and there were communications issues between Rafa and ourselves over the January window, George and I met Jurgen Klinsmann to learn as much as we could about English and European football,' he said.

'He is a very impressive man. We attempted to negotiate an option with him as an insurance policy, to have him become our manager in the event of Rafa leaving for Real Madrid or any other of the clubs rumoured in the UK press, or in case our communication problems spiralled out of control, for some reason. We never reached an agreement on an option, and we are pleased for him that he has an opportunity to return to Germany and coach a great club team.

'After George and I had a long and productive meeting with Rafa, following the United match, we put all our issues behind us and received a commitment from Rafa that he wanted to stay. Rafa has the support of both of us, and our communication has greatly improved.'



BTW I agree wholeheartedly with Ciggy. Hicks should f.off

The bold bit is all about covering your tracks that though, not pointing it out as the reason for it.

Its all al ie, the first bit he talks about ( I have highlighted below) is also not the reason. As we where top of the league when the talks happened.

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League

and you know this for a fact?

so when someone else points out a comment you make excuses for it, yet you choose to highlight comments and they are suddenly facts.

now the nitty gritty, it wasnt at the same time, the klinsman story was about a week later, it broke then, or maybe you knew before them and there is something you are not telling us.

so lets call this quits, you have your belief and i have mine, we are both showing things and it seems neither of us can say 100% its fact, although you seem to this your conjecture is fact and my conjecture is rumour

Its a discussion forum, so we discuss.

I dont want to stop you thinking what you think, but I will challenge it.

Dont take offence from that.

The personal stuff - thats what you should take offence from, and rightly so. Thats out of order, and I apologise to everyone other than you on this forum that the debate descended into that kind of slanging match.

peewee wrote:

Leonmc0708 wrote:

peewee wrote:

Leonmc0708 wrote:

s@int wrote:Hicks quotes

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League and there were communications issues between Rafa and ourselves over the January window, George and I met Jurgen Klinsmann to learn as much as we could about English and European football,' he said.

'He is a very impressive man. We attempted to negotiate an option with him as an insurance policy, to have him become our manager in the event of Rafa leaving for Real Madrid or any other of the clubs rumoured in the UK press, or in case our communication problems spiralled out of control, for some reason. We never reached an agreement on an option, and we are pleased for him that he has an opportunity to return to Germany and coach a great club team.

'After George and I had a long and productive meeting with Rafa, following the United match, we put all our issues behind us and received a commitment from Rafa that he wanted to stay. Rafa has the support of both of us, and our communication has greatly improved.'



BTW I agree wholeheartedly with Ciggy. Hicks should f.off

The bold bit is all about covering your tracks that though, not pointing it out as the reason for it.

Its all al ie, the first bit he talks about ( I have highlighted below) is also not the reason. As we where top of the league when the talks happened.

'When it appeared we were in danger of not advancing in the Champions League, we were not playing well in the Premier League

and you know this for a fact?

so when someone else points out a comment you make excuses for it, yet you choose to highlight comments and they are suddenly facts.

now the nitty gritty, it wasnt at the same time, the klinsman story was about a week later, it broke then, or maybe you knew before them and there is something you are not telling us.

so lets call this quits, you have your belief and i have mine, we are both showing things and it seems neither of us can say 100% its fact, although you seem to this your conjecture is fact and my conjecture is rumour

Its a discussion forum, so we discuss.

I dont want to stop you thinking what you think, but I will challenge it.

Dont take offence from that.

The personal stuff - thats what you should take offence from, and rightly so. Thats out of order, and I apologise to everyone other than you on this forum that the debate descended into that kind of slanging match.

can you point out where i made a personal comment about you that warranted your outburst because for the life of me i can not find it?